Car drives into crowd in Munich, Germany

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Latest, at least 28 injured ….attacker 24 yr Afghan asylum seeker
 
Fecking asswipe. Cut his head off and roll it in the streets for all I care. Making life for other law abiding immigrants hell because of this, I have to live in fear for myself and my family because of sh*theads like him. Why the absolute feck would you want to do this? It was a group of municipal workers striking for higher pay!

Can already see the AfD c*nts are giving their responses. They must be absolutely giddy at this, one week before the election where they were coming second, they'll get a massive boost out of this.

Brown? Check
Asylum seeker? Check
Had done crimes before? Check

Feck this world.
 
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Mad world. Working only 150m from the spot.
 
Fecking asswipe. Cut his head off and roll it in the streets for all I care. Making life for other law abiding immigrants hell because of this, I have to live in fear for myself and my family because of sh*theads like him. Why the absolute feck would you want to do this? It was a group of municipal workers striking for higher pay!

Can already see the AfD c*nts are already giving their responses. They just be absolutely giddy at this, one week before the election where they were coming second, they'll get a massive boost out of this.

Brown? Check
Asylum seeker? Check
Had done crimes before? Check

Feck this world.

Exactly this!
 
Fecking asswipe. Cut his head off and roll it in the streets for all I care. Making life for other law abiding immigrants hell because of this, I have to live in fear for myself and my family because of sh*theads like him. Why the absolute feck would you want to do this? It was a group of municipal workers striking for higher pay!

Can already see the AfD c*nts are already giving their responses. They just be absolutely giddy at this, one week before the election where they were coming second, they'll get a massive boost out of this.

Brown? Check
Asylum seeker? Check
Had done crimes before? Check

Feck this world.
Like most of such cases, this young terrorist was brainwashed by a group with a very clear aim - sow the fear right before the elections. There's plenty of links and solid proofs of Russian intelligence supporting, encouraging and facilitating terrorist attacks in Europe, as cynical as it sounds they don't give a feck about civilian causalities and that's an easy and effective way of strengthening their influence. Don't take it as any kind of whitewashing for the fecking murderer, but rather than get mad at a desperate asylum seeker with nothing to lose I'm more outraged at those who
1) facilitated this (so terror cells + foreign intelligence)
2) German counterintelligence that wasn't able to infiltrate them
 
Far too many gruesome incidents happening all over Europe due to immigration. Serious questions need asked.
 
Far too many gruesome incidents happening all over Europe due to immigration. Serious questions need asked.
the fact you consider it to be "due to immigration" is a simplification that doesn't tell the whole story and a goal of those who are behind those attacks. many of the horrific attacks people group under "migrants did this" had absolutely nothing to do with immigration and refugees
 
the fact you consider it to be "due to immigration" is a simplification that doesn't tell the whole story and a goal of those who are behind those attacks. many of the horrific attacks people group under "migrants did this" had absolutely nothing to do with immigration and refugees
The arrested 24 year old is an asylum seeker, though.
 
Am I the only one scratching my head as to why the choice of vehicle for this attack was a Mini?
 
the fact you consider it to be "due to immigration" is a simplification that doesn't tell the whole story and a goal of those who are behind those attacks. many of the horrific attacks people group under "migrants did this" had absolutely nothing to do with immigration and refugees

Of course this doesn't tell the whole story but sadly it is an issue now that needs serious addressing. Immigration - regardless of the status' or pathways used - without proper integration is a disaster waiting to happen. In Germany, the amount of migrants who have been allowed to enter the country only to be holed up in various temporary accommodations and unable to work is unbelievable. Who is benefitting from this? Of course people are going to be easily swayed into criminal activities, and of course people are going to be rightfully angry about those who commit such heinous crimes.

Ultimately, people can only be judged by their own actions, though. It is hard to see how any liberal policies towards migration will ever gain public support any time soon. Hard not to feel that the good-will of the Merkel-lead era is well and truly over in Europe.
 
the fact you consider it to be "due to immigration" is a simplification that doesn't tell the whole story and a goal of those who are behind those attacks. many of the horrific attacks people group under "migrants did this" had absolutely nothing to do with immigration and refugees
We don't see any of this with native people. All of the major incidents on Europe has been from immigration. The fact that people blame this on Russia is complete madness and tries to cover the main issue is that immigration has made a lot of major European cities more dangerous than ever.
 
Like most of such cases, this young terrorist was brainwashed by a group with a very clear aim - sow the fear right before the elections. There's plenty of links and solid proofs of Russian intelligence supporting, encouraging and facilitating terrorist attacks in Europe, as cynical as it sounds they don't give a feck about civilian causalities and that's an easy and effective way of strengthening their influence. Don't take it as any kind of whitewashing for the fecking murderer, but rather than get mad at a desperate asylum seeker with nothing to lose I'm more outraged at those who
1) facilitated this (so terror cells + foreign intelligence)
2) German counterintelligence that wasn't able to infiltrate them
So that's the Russians behind this one?
 
We don't see any of this with native people. All of the major incidents on Europe has been from immigration. The fact that people blame this on Russia is complete madness and tries to cover the main issue is that immigration has made a lot of major European cities more dangerous than ever.
Gotta love the choice of words here.

:lol:
 
Bloody hell - I hope everyone you work with is ok. I imagine it's crazy there at the moment.
It's pretty terrible, lots of children were present at the demo. And among the victims.
 
Far too many gruesome incidents happening all over Europe due to immigration. Serious questions need asked.

Such dishonesty in statements like this. Say it as you truly believe, its immigration of Muslims. You wouldn't say there are questions needed about white immigrants from Europe or Americas/Australia.
 
Of course this doesn't tell the whole story but sadly it is an issue now that needs serious addressing. Immigration - regardless of the status' or pathways used - without proper integration is a disaster waiting to happen. In Germany, the amount of migrants who have been allowed to enter the country only to be holed up in various temporary accommodations and unable to work is unbelievable. Who is benefitting from this? Of course people are going to be easily swayed into criminal activities, and of course people are going to be rightfully angry about those who commit such heinous crimes.

Ultimately, people can only be judged by their own actions, though. It is hard to see how any liberal policies towards migration will ever gain public support any time soon. Hard not to feel that the good-will of the Merkel-lead era is well and truly over in Europe.
Immigration has grown rather than decrease and I don't see it changing.

The influx in Ireland has become outrageous, nevermind bigger economies like Germany and the UK. Many are over here with fake asylum claims, bogus student visas and allowed to enter this country without any documentation.

We now have people coming over that do not respect our rules or laws. Most prisons are now full of minorities and this shows no signs of change. However, when this is pointed out all we here in injustices and racism is the cause. Fecking children are being killed in incidents like this, but instead of calling it out all we hear is how the far right will grow because of this. Mental.
 
Such dishonesty in statements like this. Say it as you truly believe, is immigration of Muslims. You wouldn't say this about white immigrants from Europe or Americas/Australia.
What dishonesty? It's another horrible incident that involved an immigrant that should have been vetted and more than likely should not have been in the country.
 
We don't see any of this with native people. All of the major incidents on Europe has been from immigration. The fact that people blame this on Russia is complete madness and tries to cover the main issue is that immigration has made a lot of major European cities more dangerous than ever.
But this is simply not true. Majority, yes, maybe, but you can't say "we don't see any of this with native people. All of the major incidents on Europe has been from immigration" when reality is that you had numerous terrorist attacks carried out by 'native' right-wing extremists, separatists, anarchists etc. - also in Germany that's in question. Have your opinions and that's fine, but don't base them on wrong premises and factually incorrect information.

As for russian influence again there's many solid links and proofs of them financing and supporting terrorist cells in Europe. I understand that for some it's easier to think "we kick all the migrants things are gonna be fine", but I generally encourage people to take the reality into account rather than just conveniently ignore news and facts that don't fit their vision.
 
What dishonesty? It's another horrible incident that involved an immigrant that should have been vetted and more than likely should not have been in the country.

Do you think there should be questions about white people immigrating to Europe? You'd be okay if they restricted all immigration and asylum seekers including Ukranians/Christians from Muslim countries?
 
Immigration has grown rather than decrease and I don't see it changing.

The influx in Ireland has become outrageous, nevermind bigger economies like Germany and the UK. Many are over here with fake asylum claims, bogus student visas and allowed to enter this country without any documentation.

We now have people coming over that do not respect our rules or laws. Most prisons are now full of minorities and this shows no signs of change. However, when this is pointed out all we here in injustices and racism is the cause. Fecking children are being killed in incidents like this, but instead of calling it out all we hear is how the far right will grow because of this. Mental.
Completely agree
 
But this is simply not true. Majority, yes, maybe, but you can't say "we don't see any of this with native people. All of the major incidents on Europe has been from immigration" when reality is that you had numerous terrorist attacks carried out by 'native' right-wing extremists, separatists, anarchists etc. - also in Germany that's in question. Have your opinions and that's fine, but don't base them on wrong premises and factually incorrect information.

As for russian influence again there's many solid links and proofs of them financing and supporting terrorist cells in Europe. I understand that for some it's easier to think "we kick all the migrants things are gonna be fine", but I generally encourage people to take the reality into account rather than just conveniently ignore news and facts that don't fit their vision.
We are seeing horrendous incidents caused by minorities at a huge scale. Yes, you will see whites do horrendous things, but we have just seen in the space of a couple of months in Germany two incidents with vehicles running over people.
 
We are seeing horrendous incidents caused by minorities at a huge scale. Yes, you will see whites do horrendous things, but we have just seen in the space of a couple of months in Germany two incidents with vehicles running over people.
but I'm not denying the recent vehicle attacks in Germany, all I'm saying it's bullshit to claim 'we don't see it with native people' as we do see it with native people and we've seen it with native people all throughout last 100 years in Europe.
and I believe 'a huge scale' is vastly overblown and comes from the current media landscape, speed of information etc. Statistics are clear - there's less people dying in terrorist attacks in Europe in 2010s-2020s than there were in 60s-70s-80s-90s, before the mass migration.
And before people get outraged that's not to say terrorism by Islamic fundamentalists / carried out by migrants and asylum seekers is not a huge problem - it obviously is. But many people seem to think terrorism in Europe really started with Al-Qaeda or Daesh - it didn't, the likes of IRA/ETA have claimed more lives in Europe than Islamic terrorism.

again, ad nauseum - that's not to diminish the tragedy of recent attacks, the need to address them and the fact some people feel scared. But it's a big misconception among many who think it's a 'huge scale like never before' and that large scale terrorism only started after we let Arab migrants to Europe.
 
We are seeing horrendous incidents caused by minorities at a huge scale. Yes, you will see whites do horrendous things, but we have just seen in the space of a couple of months in Germany two incidents with vehicles running over people.

The previous vehicle incident was committed by someone who was living in Germany for 16 years and was a psychologist, he'd appeared on TV as someone who saved others from persecution. Far from someone who didn't assimilate to laws and culture etc and not close to the current case.

Unless you believe that regardless of what someone's history is, if they have an immigrant background then that means we're all the same?
 
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Immigration has grown rather than decrease and I don't see it changing.

The influx in Ireland has become outrageous, nevermind bigger economies like Germany and the UK. Many are over here with fake asylum claims, bogus student visas and allowed to enter this country without any documentation.

We now have people coming over that do not respect our rules or laws. Most prisons are now full of minorities and this shows no signs of change. However, when this is pointed out all we here in injustices and racism is the cause. Fecking children are being killed in incidents like this, but instead of calling it out all we hear is how the far right will grow because of this. Mental.
Completely agree
Okay, let's skip the preamble and funny words ('natives' :lol: ) and summarize that you have a problem with Muslim immigration. Or you can replace 'muslim' with another word if you wish, as long as it still makes clear that you mean non-white immigrants from the Middle East, and possibly Africa and/or South Asia.

So what's the issue here, in your view? Is it these people themselves (they should just never be allowed in because of something that's common among them), or how they're being received in Europe?

Also, I'd be interested in evidence that 'fake asylum claims' and 'bogus student visas' are a substantial problem. It sounds like the election fraud claims in the US (in reality, there is virtually none), but I don't know the Irish situation.
 
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