I guarantee it wasn't near $70,000 I have family over there going through college/ university.
Its madness over here with what it costs.
Capitalism is shit. Period if you're broke.
People are priced out of school.
Capitalism, yay or nay?
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I guarantee it wasn't near $70,000 I have family over there going through college/ university.
Its madness over here with what it costs.
Capitalism is shit. Period if you're broke.
People are priced out of school.
Sorry mate it is late. What was your other point? Outside factors to this? I.e. growing up in a tough environment, having bad parents or being in care, that type of thing?
Yeah, that was the general gist of it.
Just regarding what you said earlier, I guarantee you it isn't "Almost free", tens of thousands. Not 70 though no.
What you are saying isn't an issue with capitalism, it is an issue with poorly implemented capitalism. Your country seems to be severely lacking in student finance which is a shame agreed.
Poverty you me means you can't get the neccessaties because you can't afford them. School and healthcare counts. If you can't go to the doctors, eat, or go to school then you're impoverished.
You must have gone to a great school then. My friend got a law degree for 5000. Maybe I'm older than you 42 in November.
That means it is going to be harder agreed. The fact that many, many people from such circumstances go onto be the highest achieving people shows there is no part of capitalism which prevents them from joining some evil success club. There is also free counselling and such things available nationwide to help overcome.
If it is too hard and your upbringing has had severe impacts on your mental health then I believe you qualify for category 1 or 2 DLA.
No other economic system would remove those issues and I would argue that from the few examples we do have of certain systems they tend to lead to an economy which can not afford to offer such support.
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What I am saying is exactly an issue with capitalism. To give any child a free pass or a discount is socialism.
Yeah that must have been a while ago mate.
That is not an issue with the system, it is an issue with the people implementing it and how they do so. If your argument is that capitalism is more open to being poorly implemented then I suppose that makes sense but if we look at how other systems have worked out when tried then I don't see how you could argue that.
And as I said before I could not give an educated opinion as to how well or poorly it is implemented over there.
2 years and my mate was doing a law degree. University escapes me though
In England?! Maybe in Ireland.
I can. I have to pay for it
England. I'm from billinge near Wigan
Fair enough mate. I think my final statement was just over 20 but going down slowly but surely.
According to the UK's National Union of Students (NUS), the average annual cost of living in England (outside of London) for students is UK£12,056 (~US$14,800).Jan 10, 2017
Socialism.
Socialism.
I'd bloody love socialism, I would work once or twice a month.
In HSBC’s 2016 report, The Value of Education: Foundations for the future, the US emerged as the top choice for parents considering university abroad for their child – but also the most expensive, with the average annual cost of tuition fees to study in the US estimated at $33,215.
Me too bud
I don't get what your trying to say? Your government is shit? Seems that way yeah.
Would be a great 3 or 4 months.
I understated. $120,000 for a BA. Thankfully my daughter is in State and has a A 3.9 gpa.
I still don't understand what that means but 4.0 is really good.
Still that's crazy money!!
I still don't understand what that means but 4.0 is really good.
Still that's crazy money!!
Oh I had this explained to me recently. Their grading is split into two different ways of calculating, I think 4.0 means straight A's and then there is some other score for none classroom based projects.
It all sounds like a bit of a mess to me.
And yeah it is a lot especially considering the specific college you attend there seems to matter just as much as the degree you obtain.
Actually @Carolina Red could probably give us the run down on gpa.
Its it like a credit score?
Its it like a credit score?
From what I remember that would be a pretty accurate comparison. But the girl who explained it was talking about how you can get Straight A's but then not get a 4.0 if you choose certain classes. It is a maths test in itself knowing which classes to put on your schedule.
My daughter has a 3.9 and wasn't valedictorian. 4.0 is perfect but someone got better than that. I gave up at that point. Europeans just won't get it.
My son got a 5.0 On his fcat brilliant. That's what Mrs Blaggs said and bitchy Blaggs was jealous. I'm like how do you get a ten?
Congrats to the young Blaggs.
Edit: The scholarships over there seem to be very inconsistant.
They're like no a 5 is perfect!
Wtf 1-10
Wtf 1-10
Basically what you are telling me is that American education bases it's grading on Uber ratings?
Sounds about right.
Yeah man English, math, science.
5.0 the whole way.
Bitchy ended up with a 4.5.
They're not stupid like their dadwas.
5.0 the whole way.
Bitchy ended up with a 4.5.
They're not stupid like their dadwas.
bitchy said "I was smart until this little fecker ruined it. "
I was lucky, my sister was in British Mensa so I always understood my limitations.
You know those two kids. One works hard and excels. Then there's the other one that doesn't work at all and just knows shit.
That's bitchy and baby.
She works hard and he's like oh that question. I got it. The little fecker beasts us at jeopardy.
That's bitchy and baby.
She works hard and he's like oh that question. I got it. The little fecker beasts us at jeopardy.
Weirdly though it is probably good in a way. Because one of them is just naturally gifted it probably plays a part in motivating the other to work hard.
You know then. I'm an I.T. guy and we're trying to solve the problem at my work. They're brilliant minds there. Way smarter than me. He goes if you dip this its gonna work. Of course he's 13 so its ignored. We figured it out and my director goes... That's what your son said to do.
It doesn't sit well with people. Especially his sister
I was lucky, my sister was in British Mensa so I always understood my limitations.
Oh you got fecked. You're like my daughter. Probably smart just superseded in the brains department.
US Grading and GPA System:
A - 4
B - 3
C - 2
D - 1
F - 0
Take all the points associated with each grade and do an average calculation and that's how you get a GPA. If you are in an honors or advanced placement class, you add 1 to your grade point. So if you got an A in an honors class, it will be worth 5. So to get a 5.0 GPA, you have to enroll in only honors or AP classes and get straight As.
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A - 4
B - 3
C - 2
D - 1
F - 0
Take all the points associated with each grade and do an average calculation and that's how you get a GPA. If you are in an honors or advanced placement class, you add 1 to your grade point. So if you got an A in an honors class, it will be worth 5. So to get a 5.0 GPA, you have to enroll in only honors or AP classes and get straight As.
@Billy Blaggs @OverratedOpinion
It's possible to have "A's" and to not have a 4.0 because not all "A's" are created equal. GPA breaks the letter grades down into values for "+, neutral, and -" levels of the letter grade. Several states substitute "F" for "E". See below...
To the topic of the thread, the issue of Capitalism/Socialism/Communism is one of the most misunderstood things I've ever come across.
Once you get past people thinking that they're names for government systems, you end up having to tackle the idea that what exists in the real world by the names "Capitalism", "Socialism", and "Communism" are nowhere close to the systems that they're borrowing names from.
Every system is a mixed system. Some (USA) are more skewed towards Capitalism, while others (Western Europe) are more skewed towards Socialism, but none are a perfect example of the things they claim to be. Communism has never even come close to existing as a national economic system in the real world.
The "middle ways" that have been developed in other developed nations have obvious advantages over the American economic system, it's just that the American voter has yet to realize this because of some sort of cognitive dissonance/jingoistic aversion to the truth. What that reality leaves us with is a situation where Americans are at a net loss in income due to having to pay massive amounts of money/debt in order to gain an education, receive medical care, etc. yet consistently vote to keep this system in place because of a highly successful brainwashing job done during the Cold War to create an intense rejection of anything that can be labeled as "socialist" by both major parties in American politics due to their shared macroeconomic philosophies.
Sorry. This was actually a topic of discussion in class today and I needed to vent a bit to someone who isn't 16.
Once you get past people thinking that they're names for government systems, you end up having to tackle the idea that what exists in the real world by the names "Capitalism", "Socialism", and "Communism" are nowhere close to the systems that they're borrowing names from.
Every system is a mixed system. Some (USA) are more skewed towards Capitalism, while others (Western Europe) are more skewed towards Socialism, but none are a perfect example of the things they claim to be. Communism has never even come close to existing as a national economic system in the real world.
The "middle ways" that have been developed in other developed nations have obvious advantages over the American economic system, it's just that the American voter has yet to realize this because of some sort of cognitive dissonance/jingoistic aversion to the truth. What that reality leaves us with is a situation where Americans are at a net loss in income due to having to pay massive amounts of money/debt in order to gain an education, receive medical care, etc. yet consistently vote to keep this system in place because of a highly successful brainwashing job done during the Cold War to create an intense rejection of anything that can be labeled as "socialist" by both major parties in American politics due to their shared macroeconomic philosophies.
Sorry. This was actually a topic of discussion in class today and I needed to vent a bit to someone who isn't 16.