Cancel Culture

dababy getting cancelled left right and center. He finally issued an apology but it might be over for him.



:lol: I mean, it's the 21st century. We have all kinds of information at our fingertips. There's no excuse for that kind of ignorance anymore. Has this feckwit ever heard of Eazy-E?
 
:lol: I mean, it's the 21st century. We have all kinds of information at our fingertips. There's no excuse for that kind of ignorance anymore. Has this feckwit ever heard of Eazy-E?
He's using freedom of expression as justification because he's a rapper.
Hard to take a man calling himself 'Dababy' seriously.
Maybe because his brain isn't fully developed yet ..:nervous:
 
dababy getting cancelled left right and center. He finally issued an apology but it might be over for him.



He should be cancelled for the lack of wit that he demonstrated. Even if you put aside the content of his monologue, the rhythm and vocabulary were extremely poor.
 
He should be cancelled for the lack of wit that he demonstrated. Even if you put aside the content of his monologue, the rhythm and vocabulary were extremely poor.
Yep. All these so called rappers these days. Dua Lipa was the first to remove herself from the equation. He collaborated with her for "Levitating" I think. Such bad taste.
 
He should be cancelled for the lack of wit that he demonstrated. Even if you put aside the content of his monologue, the rhythm and vocabulary were extremely poor.

Apparently, according to Twitter at least, below was his initial response now deleted



Not the sharpest tool in the box.

No doubt Elton will rehabilitate him and duet at some awards like he did with Axl Rose and Eminem.
 
That’s definitely what he’s doing. I’m struggling to see the homophobia he needs to apologise for though?
That's not why they are cancelling him though. I think he said something like, everyone get your camera out except gay people with aids. Or something charming like that.
 
:lol: I mean, it's the 21st century. We have all kinds of information at our fingertips. There's no excuse for that kind of ignorance anymore. Has this feckwit ever heard of Eazy-E?
Unlikely. Because Eazy-E was actually proper hip hop. I’d never heard of DaBaby until just now. I listened to three of his songs and I can safely say he’s not very good.
But he fits in well with these modern day rappers who go around butchering the hip hop genre with their irritating mumbling auto tuned crap, playing over some generic beat that sounds like it’s been cooked up on a keyboard.
 
Unlikely. Because Eazy-E was actually proper hip hop. I’d never heard of DaBaby until just now. I listened to three of his songs and I can safely say he’s not very good.
But he fits in well with these modern day rappers who go around butchering the hip hop genre with their irritating mumbling auto tuned crap, playing over some generic beat that sounds like it’s been cooked up on a keyboard.

:lol: I'm sure if I heard any of Dababy's work I would agree mate. :lol:
 
i think the problem with we are seeing and the differences in opinions between people who are open minded and accepting is down to age and the type of comedy you listened to growing up and banter that was acceptable in your childhood teens.

So many people in their late 20s to 40s, grew up listening comedy and partaking in banter that today would get cancelled by the generation below.

On the other side of that coin many people in their late 20s to 40s, esp the 30/40 group, probably find the stuff said in humour that younger people find offensive over doing it
 
i think the problem with we are seeing and the differences in opinions between people who are open minded and accepting is down to age and the type of comedy you listened to growing up and banter that was acceptable in your childhood teens.

So many people in their late 20s to 40s, grew up listening comedy and partaking in banter that today would get cancelled by the generation below.

On the other side of that coin many people in their late 20s to 40s, esp the 30/40 group, probably find the stuff said in humour that younger people find offensive over doing it

And this happens with every generation tbf, hence why the likes of Roy Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson (and presumably whoever their American equivalents are) didn’t have particularly flourishing careers in the 90s. Every Gen gets to set the ‘rules’ of the kind of comedy they find appropriate, and ‘cancel’ those it deems outdated and offensive… the issue arises when the older generation become entrenched as the status quo and either forget this, or just assume that because they’ve had the levers of culture for so long; that their way is intrinsically right, rather than just another progression in an art form that regularly ‘dates’ quite badly to newer generations… I mean, how many people hold up ‘It Ain’t Half Hot Mum’ as an example of great comedy these days?

the alternative comedy counter culture of the late 80s & 90s completely changed how mainstream comedy was appreciated… it’s only right that Gen Z, or whoever, get the chance to do that too…
 
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i think the problem with we are seeing and the differences in opinions between people who are open minded and accepting is down to age and the type of comedy you listened to growing up and banter that was acceptable in your childhood teens.

So many people in their late 20s to 40s, grew up listening comedy and partaking in banter that today would get cancelled by the generation below.

On the other side of that coin many people in their late 20s to 40s, esp the 30/40 group, probably find the stuff said in humour that younger people find offensive over doing it

Sometimes you change and don't find those things funny anymore.

I saw an Andrew Dice Clay video on YouTube the other day and thought I'd watch it because I remember how much he used to make us laugh back in the day. I lasted about five minutes before I turned it off.
 
And this happens with every generation tbf, hence why the likes of Roy Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson (and presumably whoever their American equivalents are) didn’t have particularly flourishing careers in the 90s. Every Gen gets to set the ‘rules’ of the kind of comedy they find appropriate, and ‘cancel’ those it deems outdated and offensive… the issue arises when the older generation become entrenched as the status quo and either forget this, or just assume that because they’ve had the levers of culture for so long; that their way is intrinsically right, rather than just another progression in an art form that regularly ‘dates’ quite badly to newer generations… I mean, how many people hold up ‘It Ain’t Half Hot Mum’ as an example of great comedy these days?

the alternative comedy counter culture of the late 80s & 90s completely changed how mainstream comedy was appreciated… it’s only right that Gen Z, or whoever, get the chance to do that too…

It's also the fact that people conflate being offensive with being boring. You can joke about some really dark stuff, but you have to do it in a certain way that's different than the way the olds do it, and you have to be funny. Old people are, with a few exceptions, primarily funny to other old people.

Even Jerry Seinfeld complains that he can't do gigs at colleges anymore because the young people are too easily offended, and what's worse is that people believe that and chalk it up to political correctness gone mad.

No one's offended by Jerry Seinfeld, including young people, but young people don't laugh at his jokes because he's old and out of touch. Comedians can't accept that they're past it, so it has to be something wrong with the new generation. Joking about airline food is now offensive, because there's no way prime material like that can be stale and unfunny. These people have been telling the same jokes for decades, of course they're funny!
 
It's also the fact that people conflate being offensive with being boring. You can joke about some really dark stuff, but you have to do it in a certain way that's different than the way the olds do it, and you have to be funny. Old people are, with a few exceptions, primarily funny to other old people.

Even Jerry Seinfeld complains that he can't do gigs at colleges anymore because the young people are too easily offended, and what's worse is that people believe that and chalk it up to political correctness gone mad.

No one's offended by Jerry Seinfeld, including young people, but young people don't laugh at his jokes because he's old and out of touch. Comedians can't accept that they're past it, so it has to be something wrong with the new generation. Joking about airline food is now offensive, because there's no way prime material like that can be stale and unfunny. These people have been telling the same jokes for decades, of course they're funny!

Or maybe, you know, different people have different senses of humour? And there are good old comics and bad old comics. Just like there are good young comics and bad young comics.

So tiresome the way fecking everything has to be spun into an inter-generational battleground these days…
 
Sometimes you change and don't find those things funny anymore.

I saw an Andrew Dice Clay video on YouTube the other day and thought I'd watch it because I remember how much he used to make us laugh back in the day. I lasted about five minutes before I turned it off.

Different materials for different times. I prefer observational humour like Billy Connolly and Dylan Moran. Tommy Tiernan to some respects too but he is a but more formulaic.
 
Different materials for different times. I prefer observational humour like Billy Connolly and Dylan Moran. Tommy Tiernan to some respects too but he is a but more formulaic.

First he did the nursery rhymes which were kind of amusing but then basically devolved into what was essentially hate speech about homosexuals. So if we follow this logic then the 80s/90s were a horrible time for everyone who wasn't straight and white. I suppose that actually may be true. Thankfully, many people have changed.

Dana Carvey is another one. Aside from George Bush and the Church Lady most of his material was making fun of people from different ethnicities. That's not really funny anymore either and the act that from a few years ago I saw suffered for it.He literally had nothing without that.
 
And this happens with every generation tbf, hence why the likes of Roy Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson (and presumably whoever their American equivalents are) didn’t have particularly flourishing careers in the 90s. Every Gen gets to set the ‘rules’ of the kind of comedy they find appropriate, and ‘cancel’ those it deems outdated and offensive… the issue arises when the older generation become entrenched as the status quo and either forget this, or just assume that because they’ve had the levers of culture for so long; that their way is intrinsically right, rather than just another progression in an art form that regularly ‘dates’ quite badly to newer generations… I mean, how many people hold up ‘It Ain’t Half Hot Mum’ as an example of great comedy these days?

the alternative comedy counter culture of the late 80s & 90s completely changed how mainstream comedy was appreciated… it’s only right that Gen Z, or whoever, get the chance to do that too…

I think comedy is subjective and to each their own, some people might like dark humour which often involves offensive material, the comedians who tailor to that niche shouldn’t be at risk of being cancelled. Although clearly with social media and in public they need to take the responsibility to distinguish their work material from public comments etc to make sure the two don’t get confused.
 
I think comedy is subjective and to each their own, some people might like dark humour which often involves offensive material, the comedians who tailor to that niche shouldn’t be at risk of being cancelled. Although clearly with social media and in public they need to take the responsibility to distinguish their work material from public comments etc to make sure the two don’t get confused.
I feel like cancelling is basically only a mainstream thing anyway. For when someone contemporary says/does something out of turn. Those fringe comics you mention with niche humour will be fine as they weren’t mainstream in the first place. They’ll have their fans who like that stuff and will continue to support it, while the people who would be offended by it weren’t listening anyway.
 
I think comedy is subjective and to each their own, some people might like dark humour which often involves offensive material, the comedians who tailor to that niche shouldn’t be at risk of being cancelled. Although clearly with social media and in public they need to take the responsibility to distinguish their work material from public comments etc to make sure the two don’t get confused.

What Comedians have actually been “cancelled” for edgy material?… that aren’t just not very good ones shunned by the mainstream, or sex pests?
 
What Comedians have actually been “cancelled” for edgy material?… that aren’t just not very good ones shunned by the mainstream, or sex pests?
Yeah, Frankie Boyle would've been cancelled a million times over for his edgy humour were it not for the fact that his edgy humour also has some humour to it. Most of these allegedly edgy comedians go completely over the edge to compensate for their utter lack of wit.
 
Anthony Jeselnik is a full on, unapologetic offense comic… he has 3 specials on Netflix.

Generally whenever people bring up “cancelling” in a comedy context, it almost always just means “some really shit jokes got criticised”

I guess you could say that guy that got hired and then unhired by SNL for making (bad) racist Asian jokes was a potential example?… But then is “not being hired by the most famous sketch show in the world” really being cancelled? Cos if so, it’s a low bar.
 
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Anthony Jeselnik is a full on, unapologetic offense comic… he has 3 specials on Netflix.

Generally whenever people bring up “cancelling” in a comedy context, it almost always just means “some really shit jokes got criticised”

I guess you could say that guy that got hired and then unhired by SNL for making (bad) racist Asian jokes was a potential example?… But then is “not being hired by the most famous sketch show in the world” really being cancelled? Cos if so, it’s a low bar.

I’m sure there are lesser known comedians who actively crave the exposure they might get from a high profile cancellation.

I don’t think the well known comics doing bits about “cancel culture” are doing so because they think they’re at risk of being cancelled anyway. They have an established fan base who enjoy their shtick and know what to expect from them. If a load of people who would never pay for their material anyway takes offence at their comedy then it’s no skin off their nose. They just see the easily offended as a source of material for their act.
 
What Comedians have actually been “cancelled” for edgy material?
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