Cancel Culture

someone needs to make a compilation of these free speech warriors celebrating investigations into other people's opinions set to benny hill music

 
President Trump on Thursday said he would create a commission to promote "patriotic education" and announced the creation of a grant to develop a "pro-American curriculum." The move is largely political — a reaction to a growing push by some academics for schools to teach an American history that better acknowledges slavery and systemic racism.

In the speech, Trump decried what he said was a "twisted web of lies" being taught in U.S. classrooms about systemic racism in America, calling it "a form of child abuse."

 
Not sure is this goes in this thread or the George Floyd thread. Put in in here because apparently activists wanted to demonstrate outside to store to get the manager fired because he called the police on 2 black men who shoplifted.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...g/news-story/a673263805411e01689bd7fffb24d323

That’s definitely not cancel culture. Maybe there should be another thread titled “People Being A Pain in The Arse to People Who Are Just Doing Their Job For Facebook Likes and Shares”
 
That’s definitely not cancel culture. Maybe there should be another thread titled “People Being A Pain in The Arse to People Who Are Just Doing Their Job For Facebook Likes and Shares”

Was just based on this quote

" Activists said they were planing to protest outside the store on Wednesday afternoon and called for a boycott until the “racist manager is replaced or fired”

I thought people grouping together to get people fired who in the eyes of the extreme woke comitted a heinious sin of wrong think or wrong act was part of cancel culture.
 
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Was just based on this quote

" Activists said they were planing to protest outside the store on Wednesday afternoon and called for a boycott until the “racist manager is replaced or fired”

I thought people grouping together to get people fired who in the eyes of the extreme woke comitted a heinious sin of wrong think or wrong act was part of cancel culture.

Didn’t see that bit. Was assuming this was all the work of one idiot. Have you seen any evidence of this planned protest?
 
Didn’t see that bit. Was assuming this was all the work of one idiot. Have you seen any evidence of this planned protest?

No only read the article and seen the video, however considering the current climate, I wouldn't be surprised if someone were actually planning on doing it.
 


Professional critic of cancel culture Sam Harris agrees with professional critic of cancel culture Andrew Sullivan that Nikole Hannah-Jones should be cancelled.
 


Professional critic of cancel culture Sam Harris agrees with professional critic of cancel culture Andrew Sullivan that Nikole Hannah-Jones should be cancelled.

:lol:
What's the deal with the 1619 project anyway?
 
Do universities routiney monitor social media activity of their professors?

 


Professional critic of cancel culture Sam Harris agrees with professional critic of cancel culture Andrew Sullivan that Nikole Hannah-Jones should be cancelled.

...should rescind and apologize not "be cancelled."
 
Can you sum up in your own words what these two hyperventilating clowns are trying to tell us? Or rather, what you intended to say with that video?

Nah it just a parody video on the subject of Joe Rogan's staff trying to get him cancelled. I understand some of the level of outrage levelled at him though regarding a particular episode where he basically laughed with a sexist pig.
 
Nah it just a parody video on the subject of Joe Rogan's staff trying to get him cancelled. I understand some of the level of outrage levelled at him though regarding a particular episode where he basically laughed with a sexist pig.
90% of the video is just generic stereotypes about "wokes" and plugging a cacao product.

I'd like to ask the same I asked someone else on a similar occasion: You often claim your adversaries are too irrational for a reasonable discussion - how does that match with posting a video of two rambling idiots with zero argumentative content?
 
90% of the video is just generic stereotypes about "wokes" and plugging a cacao product.

I'd like to ask the same I asked someone else on a similar occasion: You often claim your adversaries are too irrational for a reasonable discussion - how does that match with posting a video of two rambling idiots with zero argumentative content?

I honestly just found parts of it funny and parts of it not. That's it.

I also don't claim to have adversaries nor claim they are too irrational to have a reasonable discussion. Shamans(not Shamana) clearly doesn't like me though which he's entitled to. I am not often that fond of myself either.
 
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I honestly just found parts of it funny and parts of it not. That's it.
C'mon, there's more to it. It's a political video posted in a political thread inside a diverse forum. There's a message.
I also don't claim to have adversaries nor claim they are too irrational to have a reasonable discussion. Shamans(not Shamana) clearly doesn't like me though which he's entitled to. I am not often that fond of myself either.
Don't mean here on the Caf. Or rather, only by extension.

What I mean is that you post several articles/videos per week which declare in no uncertain terms that the political left is tribal, disinterested in rational argument, authoritarian & identitarian. Thus claiming the counterposition of reason, tolerance, maturity, etc. pp. One such post (of the 'anti-extremist' variety) came just 2 minutes before the video in question.

So I note the gap between that and stuff whose only aim is to confirm stereotypes, heap ridicule on the opponent, and radiate a smug sense of superiority.* It's a piece of political identitarianism, ironically.

(Not that ridicule is necessarily bad or self-congratulary, just saying.)

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* And plugging cacao, of course.
 
I don't buy that the BBC's comedy is too far to the left, but too London-centric/metropolitan I do think is a fair point.

Wonder what the "worst offending shows" are. Whatever they are they don't have anything like the zealotry and lack of humour of stuff like C4's The Last Leg or Alternative Election Night.

The Last Leg - zealotry and lack of humor? We get it repeated here and while it isn't neccesarily hilarious what zealotry is there?
 
C'mon, there's more to it. It's a political video posted in a political thread inside a diverse forum. There's a message.

Don't mean here on the Caf. Or rather, only by extension.

What I mean is that you post several articles/videos per week which declare in no uncertain terms that the political left is tribal, disinterested in rational argument, authoritarian & identitarian. Thus claiming the counterposition of reason, tolerance, maturity, etc. pp. One such post (of the 'anti-extremist' variety) came just 2 minutes before the video in question.

So I note the gap between that and stuff whose only aim is to confirm stereotypes, heap ridicule on the opponent, and radiate a smug sense of superiority.* It's a piece of political identitarianism, ironically.

(Not that ridicule is necessarily bad or self-congratulary, just saying.)

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* And plugging cacao, of course.

Which again was comedy that makes fun of the hard left as well as the hard right which i also thought was funny and with a few changes would have a been more spot on for our times. You might also have noticed that I put have up video's of Brent Tahone who is a parody of Trump supporters which these days constitute the hard right in America at least.

In the general i'm more contrarian to some of the things that the going on now(mainly the "culture wars") than most people on the Caf, but I have honestly have not claimed I feel anyone here on the caf is beyond rationel dicussion. Some people in the real word clearly are beyond rationality whatever political spectrum they may claim to belong.

I'm sorry, if some of my posts come across as smug, but I certaintly can't be the only sinner in that regards on the Caf.

If you knew my voting history, you'd know that for the last 12 years I've voted for the most left wing party in my country, but i've grown up in a classical liberalist and conservativehousehold with a father who 1st hand witnessed and suffered directly at hands of Mao's cultural revolution, so I don't hold the same contempt for right wingers as some do here on the caf and I don't consider it a smear. But that's probably also because the definition on the social media has become so simplistic that it's equated with the far right or maga supporters.
 
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Which again was comedy that makes fun of the hard left as well as the hard right which i also thought was funny and with a few changes would have a been more spot on for our times. You might also have noticed that I put have up video's of Brent Tahone who is a parody of Trump supporters which these days constitute the hard right in America at least.
I'm aware of that facet, and I acknowledged it in the part you bolded ('of the anti-extremist variety' = a self-understood centrist position). Doesn't make specific criticisms less prejudiced and self-congratulatory, especially since Mr. Cleese (like most liberal 'anti-extremists') forgot to look in the mirror there.
In the general i'm more contrarian to some of the things that the going on now(mainly the "culture wars") than most people on the Caf, but I have honestly have not claimed I feel anyone here on the caf is beyond rationel dicussion. Some people in the real word clearly are beyond rationality whatever political spectrum they may claim to belong.
I'd say most of the pieces you post are bang on part of the 'culture wars'. Its authors only fail to understand it.
I'm sorry, if some of my posts come across as smug, but I certaintly can't be the only sinner in that regards on the Caf.
That's certainly true. But note that I didn't say you acted smug, it was part of my description how the video works as identitarian backslapping instead of being an insightful parody of anything.

All of this is a good illustration of how this kind of hostility to the 'hard left' usually involves identitarians painting themselves as crusaders against identitarianism. That lack of self-awareness is astonishing. Gonna write something in the same vein about Douglas Murray.
If you knew my voting history, you'd know that for the last 12 years I've voted for the most left wing party in my country, but i've grown up in a classical liberalist and conservativehousehold with a father who 1st hand witnessed and suffered directly at hands of Mao's cultural revolution, so I don't hold the same contempt for right wingers as some do here on the caf and I don't consider it a smear. But that's probably also because the definition on the social media has become so simplistic that it's equated with the far right or maga supporters.
Well, the context of the stuff you post is mostly the politics of Western societies. To understand the deep-seated contempt for right wing politics (mainstream and fringe), you have to understand in which ways these politics, ideologies, and everday practises marginalize, threaten, and harm actual people.
 
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I'm aware of that facet, and I acknowledged it in the part you bolded ('of the anti-extremist variety' = a self-understood centrist position). Doesn't make specific criticisms less prejudiced and self-congratulatory, especially since Mr. Cleese (like most liberal 'anti-extremists') forgot to look in the mirror there.

I'd say most of the stuff you post is bang on part of the 'culture wars'. Its authors only fail to understand it.

That's certainly true. But note that I didn't say you acted smug, it was part of my description how the video works as identitarian backslapping instead of being an insightful parody of anything.

All of this is a good illustration of how this kind of hostility to the 'hard left' usually involves identitarians painting themselves as crusaders against identitarianism. That lack of self-awareness is astonishing. Gonna write something in the same vein about Douglas Murray.

Well, the context of the stuff you post is mostly the politics of Western societies. To understand the deep-seated contempt for right wing politics (mainstream and fringe), you have to understand in which ways these politics, ideologies, and everday practises marginalize, threaten, and harm actual people.

On the subject of Douglas Murray, I have actually tried to contact the currently most well-known(or at least online active) and articulate contrarians such as Douglas, the writers on Spiked-online, James Lindsay, Coleman Hughes and Inaya Folarin Iman and urged them to share a platform or a stage and have a long debate with an articulate opponent from the "other side" who actually disagrees with them, but they have told me that they have tried many times and havn't found anyone willing to do so. Personally I would love them to have a long debate shared on youtube or on a podcast with an opponent who disagree's with them, so they can be challenged on their views and their followers as well. Most of the interviews or debates they engage in is mainly with people who agrees with them and it becomes an echo chamber. It would be far more stimulating to seem them debate, when they are being thoroughly challenged on their views, on both sides.
 
On the subject of Douglas Murray, I have actually tried to contact the currently most well-known(or at least online active) and articulate contrarians such as Douglas, the writers on Spiked-online, James Lindsay, Coleman Hughes and Inaya Folarin Iman and urged them to share a platform or a stage and have a long debate with an articulate opponent from the "other side" who actually disagrees with them, but they have told me that they have tried many times and havn't found anyone willing to do so. Personally I would love them to have a long debate shared on youtube or on a podcast with an opponent who disagree's with them, so they can be challenged on their views and their followers as well. Most of the interviews or debates they engage in is mainly with people who agrees with them and it becomes an echo chamber. It would be far more stimulating to seem them debate, when they are being thoroughly challenged on their views, on both sides.
Having read a chunk of one of Murray's books after you posted him on here, this unwillingness doesn't surprise me one bit.

To reiterate:
To understand the deep-seated contempt for right wing politics (mainstream and fringe), you have to understand in which ways these politics, ideologies, and everday practises marginalize, threaten, and harm actual people.
 
Free speech doesn't meant freedom from consequences :cool:



Understandable considering the enormous tax hikes Biden wants to impose. Do people think that businesses and the rich are just going to sit back and watch their income fall? No, they are going to cut costs, and the best way to do that is to fire staff.

People may be all for increasing tax rates on the rich, but the truth is they will compromise anything to make sure their income will not be effected.

(I'm not talking about the sacking of the staff for speaking out about it, by the way)