What the hell was that?
Bundesliga 2018/19
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What I just witnessed 
What a joke.
What a joke.
If you enter the box before you are allowed to, then the penalty gets retaken. The mistake was that the ref and the var said that Ribery got fouled.
Bayern are the luckiest team in the world
I know that, I'm only referring to the message on tv about offside. Though, that actually might officially really be called offside for all I know.
Disgusting about not checking Ribery *foul*, indeed.
The Ribery pen was embarrassing, it was never a foul. The defender was trying to get up and Ribery dives over him
What en end too the game 
Bundesliga looks so slow
There is a lot you can be critical about the Bundesliga but, I rarely here that one.
First game of the season and Bayern wins because of a dive for a penalty. What a surprise
Now wait for all the Bayern Stans to rush in here to tell us how they're actually worse off according Wahre Tabelle or whatever.
Now wait for all the Bayern Stans to rush in here to tell us how they're actually worse off according Wahre Tabelle or whatever.
No sympathy for Hoffenheim, dirty team.
returned from the stadium. I saw a half of bad football, then 30 minutes of no football at all, and then a circus show. I wonder when the Bundesliga will begin
Still, the Allianz (or Stadion am Kurt-Landauer-Weg) looks dapper in its new outfit I got a red seat (woohoo!) and what the Südkurve did to the interior is nothing but stunning!
Still, the Allianz (or Stadion am Kurt-Landauer-Weg) looks dapper in its new outfit
I got a red seat (woohoo!) and what the Südkurve did to the interior is nothing but stunning!Bundesliga is a waste of time. After the first game of the season I'm already inclined to not watch it anymore. Bayern get every doubtful decision in their favour (that Ribery's imitation of Neymar was rewarded with a penalty is unexplainable unless you think it's on purpose) and will be ahead by 10 points or more by the end of the calendar year. And the rest of the teams are just really average to bad which will be obvious when they embarrass the league in European competitions once more.
The downfall of German football is far from over: The World Cup has shown that their national team is in shambles, in no other country are there problems of this kind and magnitude with VAR and if players like Ribery and Robben who are close to 50 years old are the top players it says a lot about the league as a whole and how bad the rest has to be. Add to that the constant fan troubles/hooligan problems - especially in lower leagues - and it's obvious that things are only getting worse there in the months and years to come.
The downfall of German football is far from over: The World Cup has shown that their national team is in shambles, in no other country are there problems of this kind and magnitude with VAR and if players like Ribery and Robben who are close to 50 years old are the top players it says a lot about the league as a whole and how bad the rest has to be. Add to that the constant fan troubles/hooligan problems - especially in lower leagues - and it's obvious that things are only getting worse there in the months and years to come.
They were very unlucky against madrid in the champions league last season.
thats beause we play with midfields over here.
should have added in their respective home leagues
Robben and Ribery are not the top players in the league. Can‘t remember when one of them even scored 10 goals in the league the last time.
Well, i hoped Hoffenheim would have hold on until the end, but Bayern just being Bayern. They don't tend to drop points in these games.
Well, if goals are your measuring sticks the top player would be Lewandowski who is 30 already, too. And he showed at the latter stages of the CL and at the World Cup that internationally he's a pretty average player, too. Scoring loads of goals against small opponents in the Bundesliga and in qualifying for Poland but when the going gets tough he is invisible.
The Bundesliga has been falling behind for years now and the slide in country rankings as well as the comical outing by the national team at the World Cup were confirmations of that. But as no one in Germany is allowed to speak the truth about anything anymore problems are swept under the rug and never solved.
And that's not even going into Germany's rampant hooligan problems with fan clubs openly threatening the league and the German federation instead of talking to them, Hamburg fans almost burning down the stadium during the last game of last season, a relegation game being suspended because of riots in the stands and on and on the list goes...
I have been a very vocal critic of the German NT in this thread and in other threads, but the problems are mostly structural and not the players. It‘s not like the 2000s where the NT is devoid of talent.
The top players in Bundesliga are
James
Lewandowski
Reus
Kimmich
Naldo
Thiago
Kruse
Robben and Ribery are not even close to these guys. They are behind Coman and Gnabry, it‘s just that those two are injured all the time.
Coman has to have surgery and will be out for atleast 3 months.
The season was not even 90 minutes old and we see the most absurd penalty that's ever likely to be given all season.
I've long posted about blatant favouritism to Bayern Munich from fearful match officials.
Again, I'm proven right.
Pointless watching Bayern.
I've long posted about blatant favouritism to Bayern Munich from fearful match officials.
Again, I'm proven right.
Pointless watching Bayern.
I saw something different. I saw that another team can kick our wingers off the pitch unpunished. Hoffenheim should have been glad to go into the second half with 11 players.
I know - they are pussies - like Lewandowski last week with the Eintracht players who could do what they wanted without getting cards. That is why Coman is injured for the next 3 months...
Off topic but is it possible to get Bayern tickets near or on match day? I will be in Munich when they play Augsburg at home and if I could clear my schedule that evening I would love to go.
Horrible
I'll be in Munich then as well and got tickets for the game earlier though viagogo.com. I think you can still get tickets to the games there.
Amen! How anyone can moan about the dumb penalty, when Coman got fouled time after time until he couldn't get up anymore is beyond me.
But I also don't get, why every penalty situation / dangerous free kick position isn't reviewed by the VAR.
That way diving would soon be a thing of the past. But that would probably be to logical for the DFB/DFL. Same as showing the god damn scene that is being reviewed in the stadium for the fans/players. How they could just implement the VAR so badly and not just copy from other sports like the NFL where it's been implemented for years is also beyond me.
That usage of VAR was pretty bad and I hope they get it worked out.
Am I too naive to want to hear a „it was no pen, let’s play on“ from Ribery? Probably.
I support Bayern, but don’t have a problem admitting that it was no penalty.
Am I too naive to want to hear a „it was no pen, let’s play on“ from Ribery? Probably.
I support Bayern, but don’t have a problem admitting that it was no penalty.
That was a terrible game that perfectly showcased everything that’s wrong with German football right now. We just finished the World Cup, where there was next to no controversy regarding the VAR. It took the DFB only a few minutes to feck it up again. Whatever these guys do to train the refs, it doesn’t work one bit. German refereeing is a complete trainwreck. That penalty sucked any joy out of the win for me.
Hoffenheim were interesting to watch. Tactically they were far superior to us. But they were just far too bad individually, to do anything with that tactical superiority.
We were horrible throughout. Next to no scoring opportunities from open play. Ribery was bad, Robben a complete disaster. Our build up was slow. Our counters were even slower. When we had the ball in midfield, there was no plan at all to advance it through the middle. Just pass it to the wing. On the left, Ribery needs Alaba to do the hard work for him and on the right it’s all Kimmich. Coman was the only positive on this evening and he’s out for quite some time now.
German football is fecked for now. Those were two of its best teams playing and it was terrible. No speed, no creativity, no surprising moments. Just some slow play and a lot of bad refereeing and discussions.
I know why I‘m not looking forward to the season. La Liga, Serie A and the PL are miles ahead of this league. And most sadly, Bayern are getting worse with every game and won’t be able to mask the leagues shortcomings any further.
Hoffenheim were interesting to watch. Tactically they were far superior to us. But they were just far too bad individually, to do anything with that tactical superiority.
We were horrible throughout. Next to no scoring opportunities from open play. Ribery was bad, Robben a complete disaster. Our build up was slow. Our counters were even slower. When we had the ball in midfield, there was no plan at all to advance it through the middle. Just pass it to the wing. On the left, Ribery needs Alaba to do the hard work for him and on the right it’s all Kimmich. Coman was the only positive on this evening and he’s out for quite some time now.
German football is fecked for now. Those were two of its best teams playing and it was terrible. No speed, no creativity, no surprising moments. Just some slow play and a lot of bad refereeing and discussions.
I know why I‘m not looking forward to the season. La Liga, Serie A and the PL are miles ahead of this league. And most sadly, Bayern are getting worse with every game and won’t be able to mask the leagues shortcomings any further.
I have no idea what match you watched. In what world was Hoffenheim tactically superior? It was typical underdog football and consisted of hacking our players down. It's also kind of weird of you to say Ribery was bad despite the fact that he overall had a good game, made some smart plays and created quite some pressure with Alaba (and how is Alaba doing the "hard work"? It's always Ribery that gets him in positions due to the fact that he still draws 2-3 defenders to himself).
Naldo? The 36 year old defender? Or is there a new one..
Yes, that Naldo. But apparently he was excellent for Schalke though!
Wouldnt say Robben and Ribery or nowhere near the even older and rather average Naldo though.
I love the whataboutery of Bayern fans on here who believe that getting hacked elsewhere on the pitch (always the victims Bayern) justifies them receiving a non existent penalty from timid referees scared of Hoeness & Rummenigge.
Lots of VAR drama in the Bayern/Hoffenheim game, but in that second half I thought Hoffenheim played well. I thought VAR got both calls right but should have called for a look at the penalty as Ribery bought it.
Shame about Coman, at first I thought it was just a knock but then you could see he seemed to be crying, 3 months sounds like maybe a ligament tear in the ankle, Bayern need to get some stretchers though, he had to hobble up all those steps to get to the dressing room..
Shame about Coman, at first I thought it was just a knock but then you could see he seemed to be crying, 3 months sounds like maybe a ligament tear in the ankle, Bayern need to get some stretchers though, he had to hobble up all those steps to get to the dressing room..
A Bayern penalty is saved (from a penalty that wasn't) and they are awarded with a retake for an offence committed by one of their own players (Robben for encroaching).
All occurring because Bayern are ten minutes away from drawing at home.
Welcome to the Bundesliga.
All occurring because Bayern are ten minutes away from drawing at home.
Welcome to the Bundesliga.
You really need to work on your reading comprehension.
No one is saying that it was a penalty. The consensus is that the DFB/DFL need to make the VAR work - and fast. Why the situation (and every possible penalty) wasn't looked at again with the VAR I can't tell you, as it doesn't make sense.
That doesn't change the fact that one of the most promising young players in the Bundesliga was fouled until he couldn't get up anymore. And guess what - if Dortmund had played against Hoffenheim and Sancho or Pulisic had been fouled at virtually every second run down the wing until they had to get carried off the pitch I would have been pissed off, too. Especially if a player like Pulisic, Sancho, Reus or Rebic just came back from an injury on his ankle and got injured by a sliding tackle from the side that went "through" both his feet/ankles.
But in general we can say that the referees did a bad job last night. The referee gave a penalty that was no penalty and didn't even ask the VAR to check up on it. But the referee also did not communicate to the Hoffenheim players properly that they should start playing fairly or see their players sent off the pitch, if they continue to try and kick other players off the pitch.