Can you find a Gif of the Hector goal against Wolfsburg? That one was outrageous. Big contender for goal of the season for me. Everyone should see it
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Can you find a Gif of the Hector goal against Wolfsburg? That one was outrageous. Big contender for goal of the season for me. Everyone should see it
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At first glance, you are supposed to think he made a bad touch after the turn. After I thought about it a bit longer, I now believe that was actually brilliant because that touch pushes himself and the ball away from the defender next to him and makes the goalkeeper come out. Hector couldn't have chipped the goalie if he stood on the line so that move made the goal much better.
Hector is a great player and I am really sad to see him go down. He got much appreciation for his decision and deservedly so, but I would much rather watch him play for Dortmund in the CL next season against Barcelona instead of battling it out against Sandhausen and Paderborn
I might be mistaken here, but there’s probably severe legal problems in case the game is not played to the full whistle in this case. It’s just not worth it. And if you think that this was his decision, then I can’t help you. It most certainly wasn’t.
Once the 90 minutes are up, and they were, then he is under no obligation to play more time.
If he played less injury time than the time he announced then it can be justified on the basis of public safety.
But, no, typical Byrch. . . Waits around for 17 minutes in what was already a very tense situation to play a kick out from the keeper.
He's a complete tw*t.
I'm sure they gave him a new deal last season, I think it was for 5yrs.
Good turn and finish but keeper was awful for that one.
It was a perfect chip over the keeper, why the keeper was awful for this one?
Casteels is one of the best this season.
No Wolfsburg just have to lose the relegation and it's a perfect season.
Big congrats for Korkut and Nagelsmann, fantastic seasons for them.
He didn't do well, but that was not a clear mistake and it does not take anything away from the goal.
I remember everyone drooling over Ibra's goal against England. That would've never happened against any other keeper who is not as shit as Hart
Stuttgarts run second half of the season has been nothing short of a miracle ..
And then went on to sin Hitz for some inexplicable reason
They don’t give a shit anymore apparently.Finally the clock has run out.
He just stood still waiting for the ball to hit rather than keeping his eye on the ball and attempting to move his hand to where the ball was headed....
Edit: Lovely turn though from Hector, taking nothing away from him for doing that.
Sad to see Leverkusen not make it to the UCL, that could break their team apart in the summer as some of the younger players may want to leave to bigger teams. Hope that doesn't happen because you can say the Europa League is what's best for Heiko Herrlich since it can allow him to settle into European football before qualifying for the best competition, we saw how Leipzig and Hoffenheim's managers struggled in their first seasons in the UCL.
That being said, I don't see Bailey staying beyond the summer now, maybe Brandt and Tah may leave as well. Those 3 are the best young players they have. One positive out of this could be that Leverkusen would get a lot of money for them and so could try to improve the squad for the long season ahead, while still having some of their other talented players like Havertz (arguably the most talented player they have currently), Retsos, Paulinho, Volland to build their future on.
For Hoffenheim, Nagelsman is a genius and I really hope he proves himself in Europe next season. Though, again, he'l have to do so after losing some his best players like Uth and Gnabry and getting absolutely nothing for them; they will have to do mighty well to recover their goal/assists return for this season with the little budget they have.
Dortmund have dodged a real bullet here and can breathe a sigh of relief. They have to rethink their strategy and work out a way to fill those gapping holes in the line-up. Burki is not good enough for a team of their calibre, Pizsceck is waning, their central midfield has become too weak with Castro and Sahin regressing a lot this season (Weigl, if he stays, and Dahoud really need to step up) and they don't have a striker as well. They definitely have one of, if not the, best young attacking unit in the league and so don't need any really investment there, just need to make sure they keep Pulisic.
That being said, I don't see Bailey staying beyond the summer now, maybe Brandt and Tah may leave as well. Those 3 are the best young players they have. One positive out of this could be that Leverkusen would get a lot of money for them and so could try to improve the squad for the long season ahead, while still having some of their other talented players like Havertz (arguably the most talented player they have currently), Retsos, Paulinho, Volland to build their future on.
For Hoffenheim, Nagelsman is a genius and I really hope he proves himself in Europe next season. Though, again, he'l have to do so after losing some his best players like Uth and Gnabry and getting absolutely nothing for them; they will have to do mighty well to recover their goal/assists return for this season with the little budget they have.
Dortmund have dodged a real bullet here and can breathe a sigh of relief. They have to rethink their strategy and work out a way to fill those gapping holes in the line-up. Burki is not good enough for a team of their calibre, Pizsceck is waning, their central midfield has become too weak with Castro and Sahin regressing a lot this season (Weigl, if he stays, and Dahoud really need to step up) and they don't have a striker as well. They definitely have one of, if not the, best young attacking unit in the league and so don't need any really investment there, just need to make sure they keep Pulisic.
Why did Bayern not go for Nagelsmann?
Delighted they didn't as look forward to seeing Hoffenheim in the CL next season with Nagelsmann as manager
Delighted they didn't as look forward to seeing Hoffenheim in the CL next season with Nagelsmann as manager
Both Brandt and Tah signed new contracts just this season, they won't leave this summer. Bailey could be gone, but he has no release clause and if they get anything close to 80m for him, they should absolutely ship him out. He has been dogshit in the second half of the season and they got better talents than him with Brandt and Havertz.
They are also really good at replacing outgoing players. They lost last season's best goal scorer and replaced him without much fuss this season. Their scouting is top notch and probably the best in the league. There is the company money of course, but they are the 3rd best team in the league on average in this decade and they do not have the 3rd highest budget.
Nice football, no titles, perennial bottlers. Sounds familiar? I believe there is some team from North London which fits this description perfectly. No NFL games or new stadium in Leverkusen, though.
Both Dortmund and Bayern wanted Nagelsmann, but his release clause only kicks in from 2019 onwards. Hoffenheim didn't let him go this summer because he is literally the only reason for the outstanding achievements there and without him, they are back at fighting relegation.
Last season's team was much better individually and this season the only players above average are Uth, Gnabry, Kramaric and maybe Demirbay (injured) and Amiri (still a talent). 3 of those are gone in the summer for sure and the rest of the team is extremely mediocre.
I don't even understand how Nagelsmann did it. Last season, he had Wagner, Rudy and Sule, those are all german national team players. He loses all three to Bayern and only gets Gnabry on loan, who is no national team player, and still finishes on 3rd place, one place above last season's finish with a weaker team.
Hitzfeld and Heynckes are the only german CL winning coaches to date. Klopp will be the next one, and after that it will be a race between Tuchel and Nagelsmann. These two are just too brilliant to not win the big prize soon. Marco Rose is another one, but he is too far away from managing a big club at the moment and will spend some time at a second rate club like Leipzig first.
Yes.....but it is the best timing for Hamburg because the quality of the 2.Bundesliga is awful.
Will be interesting to see if they buy a true no.9 if Favre comes. At Gladbach he preferred to play a strikerless 4-4-2 with two mobile support striker types up front. There are 5-7 players at Dortmund who may fit that role, although probably not all will stay. He has played different formations at Nice though, and usually adapts to the squad.
It´s not the time, since they last been relegated. They had been the last founding member of the Bundesliga in 1963 that had never been relegated. Bayern (1965), Leverkusen (1979), Wolfsburg (1997), Hoffenheim (2008), Augsburg (2009), and RB Leipzig (2016) have also never been relegated, but they were not part of the initial 18. Seven of those 18 will play in the Bundesliga next year: Frankfurt, Dortmund, Stuttgart, Schalke, Nurnberg, Hertha, Bremen.
I agree .. Its really diabolical now..
I would party hard if Bayern puts up a clock from next season on. It would be the greatest insult/annoyance.
I wouldn't exactly call line-ups with Igor de Camargo, Hanke or Kruse strikerless. The only partnership that might fit that bill would be Raffael and Stindl and Favre left two months after the latter joined them. And Dortmund's interest in making Batshuayi a permanent signing has been well documented anyway.
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I would party hard if Bayern puts up a clock from next season on. It would be the greatest insult/annoyance.
Bayern should put up a clock showing the time since they didn't last bottle the Champions League. . . It would be 5 years and counting.
Yeah. There are a whooping three teams in Europe who wouldn't be happy to have "bottled" the CL as badly as Bayern in recent years.
The way I remember it, Raffael/Kruse played as a pretty much interchangable duo, regularly dropping into midfield, and taking over some playmaking duties in the absence of CAMs. Reus/Hanke lies a bit deeper in past memory, but I think it was similar. That's what I meant with two 9 1/2s, rather than a classical no.9.
So imo, both Kruse & Hanke had false 9 aspects to their game under Favre, and I'd describe the predominant system as leaning more towards a 4-2-4-0 (in possession) than a 4-2-3-1. It's all about tendencies, of course.
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Man, you are such a miserable guy.
They're probably the only three teams in the world who have more money to spend than Bayern though.
Ah stop. . . It was tongue in cheek.
The Bayern fans on here are such snowflakes, so easy to wind up. One of them accused me yesterday of stating something I never stated but never had the decency to apologise.
I would describe the setup as a) a big fella who is a manget for balls from deep, can control and shield a ball, drag defenders out of position, opening up pockets of space and b) a quick and direct dribbler who gets to exploit those spaces and scores the goals.
Dortmund have lots of players who fit category b) mainly Reus, who already played it under Favre and of course Philipp who is basically a Reus clone, but not really anyone who fits category a) aside from maybe Yarmolenko or of course Götze, if you're willing to sacrifice any kind of aerial threat.
With Hanke (a) and Reus (b) these two roles were very clear cut, with Kruse (a) and Raffael (b) less so, because both have/had a very good all around game, but the stats still sorft of support that idea:
13/14 Raffael 15G/7A | Kruse 12G/11A
14/15 Raffael 12G/2A | Kruse 11G/9A
That being said his stint in Nice clearly shows that Favre isn't married to a 442 and on one hand I don't think their CM is really that well suited to a 442 and on the other he will have to dominate a more than he did at Gladbach and 442 isn't usually the formation to accomplish that.
I'm not even a Bayern fan, you just spout stuff that is as nonsensical as it sounds bitter.
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Never posted anything bitter but I get a good few snide remarks from what always seem to be Bayern fans. To make an inquiry yesterday as to try and understand how Stuttgart were running amok in the Allianz Arena, winning 4-1, when they had lost their last 16 matches to Bayern was met with one such remark. If Stuttgart had played Bayern in the opening match of the season instead then they wouldn't have finished in a Europa League spot.
I do, on occasion, post about the dreadful standard of the match officials in Germany. That may come across as bitter but I don't intend it to be so as the Germans produce some seriously woeful decision makers (most of them are closet Bayern fans anyway). This is why VAR has been such a great thing for the Bundesliga, but still cannot entirely iron out all those deficiencies.
Yes, please cry about Stuttgart winning against Bayern's best team available when Frankfurt got to play against half the academy a couple of weeks ago (and still got rekt). And of course calling refs closet Bayern fans is a perfectly reasonable statement completely free of any shred of bitterness
Yes, please cry about Stuttgart winning against Bayern's best team available when Frankfurt got to play against half the academy a couple of weeks ago (and still got rekt). And of course calling refs closet Bayern fans is a perfectly reasonable statement completely free of any shred of bitterness
An entirely fair argument except to say that the same academy would have put Stuttgart to the sword yesterday if Heynckes had played them. Don't get me wrong. . . Frankfurt's season was screwed up by Kovac putting himself before the club. Bayern are welcome to him. . . I wonder who the last manager to take over Bayern joined them with a league record of W1 D1 L5 from the last seven matches of the club he left. Nevertheless EF can still make the EL by defeating Bayern next Saturday which, let's be honest, no one expects to happen.
Bigger teams get close calls. Not necessarily a Bayern thing. . . For how many years have people referred to "Fergie time" for United?. . . I'd say Franco's Real got a few decisions in their favour down through the years. In Germany Bayern get too many decisions in their favour for it to be a coincidence. They don't need help from match officials as they are a phenomenally talented and successful club.
Let's not put too much time in this, but I don't think this clear distinction between big fella and quick dribbler really works for that setup. A few articles from the past:
Zonal Marking on the role of Gladbach's forwards in 2011 (although the duo here is Hanke/Bobadilla, with the former playing more conventional according to Cox):
The movement of the front two is interesting, both with and without the ball. When Mönchengladbach are in possession the strikers are happy to drift into the midfield zone and to move wide – and when the opposition have the ball, they drop deep, rarely pressure the defence, and create a ten-man barrier between the ball and Marc-Andre ter Stegen. They’re extremely compact (more on that here) the defence plays reasonably high up, the attackers play rather deep.
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/12/04/borussia-monchengladbach-dortmund-tactics/
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/12/04/borussia-monchengladbach-dortmund-tactics/
An article on Kruse in the NT from 2013:
Joachim Löw counts on Max Kruse as "false nine"
...the label for Max Kruse's rotating role against Ireland (was) the dominant topic: false nine, playmaking nine, fluid nine?
"I became a 'false nine' in Freiburg under Christian Streich. That's when I noticed it suits me", Kruse said in an "Frankfurter Rundschau" interview.
https://www.abendblatt.de/sport/fus...oew-setzt-auf-Max-Kruse-als-falsche-Neun.html
...the label for Max Kruse's rotating role against Ireland (was) the dominant topic: false nine, playmaking nine, fluid nine?
"I became a 'false nine' in Freiburg under Christian Streich. That's when I noticed it suits me", Kruse said in an "Frankfurter Rundschau" interview.
https://www.abendblatt.de/sport/fus...oew-setzt-auf-Max-Kruse-als-falsche-Neun.html
Spielverlagerung on the roles of both Kruse and Raffael dropping deep into midfield in 2015:
For a long time, Gladbach used that to their advantage pretty well; they used the full backs a tad higher and more active than usual, the wingers overloaded the wings with them, while Kruse and Raffael often fell back behind them. This way, they used the wing players pushing up to position themselves in the free spaces behind them, within a good field of vision.
https://spielverlagerung.de/2015/03/15/favres-passmaschine-dominiert-hannover-mischsystem/
(four paragraphs above "Fazit")
https://spielverlagerung.de/2015/03/15/favres-passmaschine-dominiert-hannover-mischsystem/
(four paragraphs above "Fazit")
These are just flashlights, but I think they show what I was trying to say. Otherwise I already said Favre has played different formations/tactics throughout his career, adapts to his players, and that it will be interesting to see in which way he sets up the forward line in case he comes to Dortmund. So Batshuayi (or someone similar) may well be on the cards, of course.
Balotelli's played really well for him at Nice.
I know, hence the last sentence of that quote.
Maybe I worded it badly. I don't mean that the strikers I categorized as "a" were constantly leading the line, but rather that they were players who used their strength and athleticism to hold up the ball and ward off defenders, playing a lot with their back to the goal. And that's what I don't really see in Dortmund's squad aside from perhaps Yarmolenko and Götze, most the attacking players want rely on utilizing their pace, playing with their face towards the goal, running/tempo dribbling at defenders and into spaces.
Kruse, due to not being as physically imposing as someone like Hanke and being a very complete player, isn't probably categorized as easily, but I don't really see anyone in the squad of whom I would say: "he's their Kruse" either.
Kruse, due to not being as physically imposing as someone like Hanke and being a very complete player, isn't probably categorized as easily, but I don't really see anyone in the squad of whom I would say: "he's their Kruse" either.
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And reading back I tend to agree with your distinction between Reus/Hanke and Raffael/Kruse, on the caveat of it being gradual rather than categorical. There was a certain ideal of flexibility and fluidity in Favre's general outlook at Gladbach, imo. But I still don't think your characterization of two distinct roles (hold up/push forward) really fits the tactics with Raffael/Kruse, but we don't need to drag this out for too long. It's completely okay to disagree there for me.
So trying to make myself clear as well: My initial point was that Favre has played a lot of variants in his career and it will be interesting to see what he'll do with the Dortmund squad. It allows for many options, especially considering the upcoming transfer window. Nothing more, no assumptions on what he would do.
Yeah, I edited my post a bit, because Kruse is less physical and more complete on the ball than his predecessors, thus blurring the lines of the categories I tried to make.