Can´t see the Dortmunad game end 1-2. Both teams are threatening. Bremen look pretty good on the counter.
Bundesliga 2017/18
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This game is more proof that Müller is NOT suitable as backup CF, not that we needed any more.
Does that smug Dortmund fan not post on here anymore?
I'd be interested to see what they made of current events
He lives a different timeline now, an alternate universe where they're still better than United.
Surely losing today will mean the end for Bosz at Dortmund? He looks so miserable all the time.
Dortmund.
Dortmund are a mess..
No way is Bremen going down. Much better now Max Kruse is back.
Dortmund...haven't won a game in 3 months now?
They won a cup game against a 3rd (I think) division team 6 weeks ago but yeah, apart from that it's been more than 2 months since they last won a game.
Actually funny that they are still only 2 points behind the top 4.
Lost 1-0 To T-Mobile
An undeserved result. Vidal should have been sent off for a second yellow.....which would certainly have changed the game. Juup Heynckes obviously thought so as he substituted Vidal a minute later
Marius Wolf nearly sent off.
Thank God for VAR
An undeserved result. Vidal should have been sent off for a second yellow.....which would certainly have changed the game. Juup Heynckes obviously thought so as he substituted Vidal a minute later
Marius Wolf nearly sent off.
Thank God for VAR
That was not the game to really judge this. Give him games in which Lewy could shine, too. It is no wonder that Lewy did not start - he never scored a goal in Frankfurt before. Not for Dortmund and not for us.
I'm not sure if Bayern had a shot on target in the second half. In the past Frankfurt wouldn't have got the ball off Bayern....even at home.
This worries me for the Bundesliga.
Bayern are the only team left in Europe in both competitions and they'll come up against much tougher opposition.
It's been a disastrous year in Europe for the BL and that gives me no pleasure at all.
This worries me for the Bundesliga.
Bayern are the only team left in Europe in both competitions and they'll come up against much tougher opposition.
It's been a disastrous year in Europe for the BL and that gives me no pleasure at all.
Dortmund and Leipzig are still in the Europa League?
Dortmund are softer than a baby's laughter. They really need to sort stuff out.
Mmm
You're right of course but I doubt any fan of the BL would be considering that an achievement
If the old rules applied Serie A would have won the fourth CL spot from the BL. Now the BL are looking over their shoulder at the French league FFS.
I recognise that teams in Germany are a victim of their own success as the best players from the BL have been routinely picked up by money clubs in other leagues
VAR is such a mess. I´m not sure Fährmann´s heel didn´t play Stindl onside. While the whistle made no difference to Schalke´s defense or Stindl´s finishing the goal, they cannot go to VAR and overturn a blown whistle. That moment the play is dead.
And now he takes a correct penalty back for a previous overlooked foul unrelated to the penalty incident that is not reviewable. What an utter mess. These refs are completely clueless.
I don't know about these VAR decisions. This is kind of silly tbh.
The last decision would be the same, if a team scores after a corner and then the VAR says the corner decision was wrong, take back the goal. That´s not how it is supposed to work. The DFL/DFB are in so much over their head it´s not even funny.
Yep. I'm going to file it under 'growing pains', though.
15 points ahead of the French even now. We could do nothing a whole year and would still be ahead. One bad year doesn't really matter.
Neuer replacement Ulreich is injured now as well (don't know if long term or if his missing today was more of a precaution), junior Keeper Früchtl is injured, too. Thank god we hauled Tom Starke out of retirement already at the start of the season.
It wasn't about this offside. The offside was 5 seconds before, so it was right.
PEA's not going to be sticking around next year, that's fo sho!
I don't see it as an achievement either but realistically both teams have a very good chance of making deep runs in the EL thus gaining quite a few points.
It will still end up being a bad season for the league going by the points won but I don't think it will be too bad. At the moment I wouldn't consider the french league a big threat.
Bundesliga looks very poor this season. Bayern are from impressive, but are still walking the league.
It isn't a case german teams have been awful in Europe. Dortmund and Leipzig knocked out in group stage in Champions League, Hoffenheim lost the Champions League playoffs to Liverpool and then got knocked out in their Europa League group, Freiburg didn't even qualify to the Europa League group stage and Cologne are already out from the Europa League.
It isn't a case german teams have been awful in Europe. Dortmund and Leipzig knocked out in group stage in Champions League, Hoffenheim lost the Champions League playoffs to Liverpool and then got knocked out in their Europa League group, Freiburg didn't even qualify to the Europa League group stage and Cologne are already out from the Europa League.
Not only La Liga or Premier League but also Serie A, untill Leipzig finds his role in German football, Dortmund stops this joke, and clubs like Schalke or Leverkusen turn more consistent at European level even to follow Serie A will be hard imo.
Atm I think they are a little better, Juve is similar to Bayern, Napoli is better than current Dortmund, Inter better than Leipzig, and they are more open to foreign investment, where they are behind is regarding youth development at least compared to Germany or Spain imo.
Leverkusen and Schalke actually were on their way to consistent performances in Europe. Even last season, they did reasonably well in Europe. The awful performances in the league last season cost them a lot.
The general drop in quality in the Bundesliga was already visible last season. Plenty of posters on here agreed that it was by far the worst season in terms of quality on show in years. And it continues this season. Last season Bayern looked the worst since Klinsmann (let's ignore the chaos in van Gaal's second season in this discussion because it had different reasons) and still walked the league with ease. I'm not sure what happened. There wasn't a huge exodus of players to other leagues. In fact clubs actually signed quality from abroad, it just didn't work out at all. Schalke signing Coke for example looked like a great deal but ended up being a total disaster.
The new generation of German players also looks quality again, so the drop in overall quality can't be blamed on youth development. It's really mind-boggling what's happening since last season.
Maybe the problem is related with too many managers obsessed with uber pressing, maybe it works at Bundesliga level, more exposed at European level, it can't be only individual quality.
That makes sense.
I was shocked at how bad Hoffenheim were against Liverpool for example. I know Liverpool are a good side but Hoffenheim were so naive it was embarrassing.
Tbf I am still not sure about this, just the fact looking at matches between Porto vs Leipzig or Braga vs Hoffenheim, they created lots of problems to those teams but also made incredible mistakes, don't know if it is only the way they play in Germany, or in this case 2 clubs and managers with lack of experience outside Bundesliga.
Tbh Leipzig did massacred Porto in Germany and Monaco in France, they do lack some experience at European level.
So Stöger new Dortmund manager till the end of season, interesting I guess.
Well, the ride with Bosz was fun while it lasted.
I wouldn't read too much into this seasons European performances by Hoffenheim and Leipzig. Both clubs were way too inexperienced and young to draw meaningful conclusions from it. Hertha's repeated embarrassment in Europe, Dortmund's shocking performances and Bayern's overall drop in quality are the truely worrying examples at the moment. Lots of work to be done in the next few years if the league wants to get back to the level we saw previously to last year.
There's definitely something in it and I've raised that point a few times as well. The pressing trend isn't necessarily bad but it needed to be developed further and balanced out with "normal" defensive organisation. Plenty of German clubs failed at that.
Already mentioned it later, can't take definitive conclusions regarding Leipzig or Hoffenheim, first season at this level would have a price for them, beside that Dortmund with Bosz went way worse than expected, still at tactical level maybe some adjustments needed when they make the transition from Bundesliga to Europe, at least away from home.
Not sure where else to put it, although I think the Bundesliga fans on here probably know him best but Paolo Guerrero will miss the World Cup after testing positive for cocaine.
What a waste, he was one of the main reasons I was glad Peru qualified and we could see him on the big stage again after his CWC heroics for Corinthians.
What a waste, he was one of the main reasons I was glad Peru qualified and we could see him on the big stage again after his CWC heroics for Corinthians.
I wouldn't watch many Dortmund matches but one I did watch was their Champions League home match v Real Madrid.
Bosz had the Dortmund defence defending nearly on the halfway line. It was suicide football v Real. I couldn't help but get the impression that he was a tactical dunderhead. Knew he wouldn't be around for long after surrendering that 4-0 lead v Schalke.
Reminded me of Steve McClaren's appointment at Wolfsburg.
Dortmund were doing the same last season v Monaco.
They're just a team that don't really care about defending. It's not in their DNA like Atletico Madrid or dare I say Manchester United.
Koln 2 up.