Isn’t the formula for top 3 Messi, Ronaldo and someone from the CL/WC winner?
Make no mistake, Lewandowski deserves it IMHO, but it’s more a marketing/vanity competition.
Bundesliga 19/20
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Make no mistake, Lewandowski deserves it IMHO, but it’s more a marketing/vanity competition.
Do Bayern fans celebrate the title anymore? I remember I barely celebrated our third in a row.
Well, yes. I don't get tired of celebrating my birthday either and that's every year on the same day.
Obviously not like the first or a back-to-back, but to come from behind after sacking Kovac while playing good to great football is wonderful to watch.
Unfortunaly it is. Should be him though. By some margin I think. Will he win it if Bayern wins the CL?
Hell of a case of Nikopolidis syndrome on Bartels.
finally he got his red.
sadly a bit late.
sadly a bit late.
There’s your make up call. Happy now?
I have a feeling we're not winning this.
Neuer wins Bayern the title with miracle save.
Old man Pizarro denied...
Bayern spending pretty much whole of injury time whacking ball against Bremen players for endless corners.
I actually don't think it is too bad usually. It helps if you don't get caught up in page long discussions with singular members with questionable discussion skills
Touché. Yet it feels like the "it's easy to score in the Bundesliga, all defenders are frauds" camp grows every day.
I wouldn’t even have been mad, had it been him. What an absolute legend!
If Bayern win the CL and Barca/Juve get out early, he may have a chance. Otherwise definately not.
Bayern spending pretty much whole of injury time whacking ball against Bremen players for endless corners.
Do not see that often, but actually they are a master even in that! It is more an underdog skill.
They even needed that in the last match of the treble season when after a 3 goal lead Stuttgart came two goals back...
Did not recognize it was Bittencourt that Davies kicked but now I understand that better. He is that kind of dirty little player that always gets his opponent mad - but not because of his skills. Not that this excuses anything - Davies has to learn to keep calm.
The special on this championship are the stories behind it. The media that in summer and autumn talked down the players. Kovacs end and the resurrection of the team and the main players with Flick who makes them play in a way that matches to their strengths.
I even think that the break before the CL could even be an advantage when you see how tired the players have seemed the recent three matches. It will not be differently in the other leagues who even have tighter schedules. Bayern managed the comeback after Corona very well and will use that experience for the preparation for the CL tournament.
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Surely it's extremely unhealthy and not a good look for the Bundesliga that Bayern have won the title 8 times in a row now, mental for what's supposed to be one of the "top leagues", i am not trying to bash Bayern fans nor regular viewers of the league but come on, thats a really big issue that no others teams can even get close to munich,
Even in our prime when we were winning 3 seasons in succession it was still usually very tight for most years apart from the odd landslide, and yes this year the dippers are 20+ points in front of second, but thats an anomaly,
We can laugh at the french league for "being a bunch of famers" but the bundesliga is not much better, I can't help feel that when players sign for Munich they want an easy ride, guaranteed UCL and a guaranteed medal, which you can't blame them really but it does questions there mentality to play at the highest level, which as biased as my opinion is is the premier league.
Even in our prime when we were winning 3 seasons in succession it was still usually very tight for most years apart from the odd landslide, and yes this year the dippers are 20+ points in front of second, but thats an anomaly,
We can laugh at the french league for "being a bunch of famers" but the bundesliga is not much better, I can't help feel that when players sign for Munich they want an easy ride, guaranteed UCL and a guaranteed medal, which you can't blame them really but it does questions there mentality to play at the highest level, which as biased as my opinion is is the premier league.
It is no easy ride to get into that Bayern team. If your quality and especially your mentality is not right you just do not make it - even if you might grab one or two medals at the time you play for Bayern until you leave again...
Is there a possibility of Mainz winning BVB, considering "fight" for title is over?
Unfortunately, it seems every league is becoming like that. 3 of the 5 top leagues have one super dominant team that won 7+ in a row and the last league has two teams competing for the title. And in the last remaining league, the EPL, Liverpool completely dominated the whole season, achieving a higher points total than every other team in a top league ever.
We really need something to enable competitors to catch up. You can't mamage a football club much better than Dortmund was managed since Klopp, yet they're still lightyears away from Bayern. Salary cap, more even distribution of TV money, don't know, but something has to happen or it just continues like that. Even a European league won't change anything since eventually, there will still be one or two teams establishing themselves at the very top. That's the natural process without regulation.
Sorry maybe my point wasn't portrayed properly,
Bayern are a quality team, I do not dispute that, of course you have to be a very good footballer to play for them, however, you know when you join Bayern, you are pretty much guaranteed a league medal and UCL football and there's no real challenge in the league bar your two games vs Dortmund each season and even that is hardly a competition for bayern these days,
My point who more aimed at the league in general and it desperately needs a revamp, new ideas and new changes. The league is well suited to keep Bayern on top for many more seasons to come and that's where the issue lies
Bayern is richer than other clubs Thus Bayern is able to keep their top players and buy more(e.g Sane), While their rivals lose theirs, Leipzig already lost their best player in Werner to Chelsea for next season, Dortmund is almost certain to lose Sancho to Man Utd, Harvetz is being linked to Madrid and Chelsea. So the work of Bayern gets even easier next when their rivals are weaker and they get stronger.
Its the same way Man Utd is richer than other EPL clubs, The only difference is the odd private money that stops Man Utd from dominating, the type of private money that boosted Blackburn, Chelsea and Citeh
Without that Walker, Roman and Etihad money, the league will basically be between Man Utd and Arsenal. You can imagine the direction that would have gone in the EPL era last 28yrs Probably Man Utd wins 21, Arsenal 4 and the odd Liverpool/Leicester win 3.
Playing like a relegation team, lining up like a promoted team. Seems like Schalke are approaching their equilibrium.
That they were still in condition to have a chance to get the european 7th place before the matchday after 12 games without a win is amazing
What's happened to Schalke. Their form is terrible
Mainz are 2-0 up in Dortmund......i'm sure the people in Bremen will be furious
Not only terrible, but historically so. They probably got a few more points in the first half of the season than they deserved, but the way they imploded is just incredible.
Wow. Leipzeg up 2-0 with 3 minutes left and they again give it up. Drawing at home again, how many times in a row?! Insane incapability to finish off games.
Dortmund losing at home to Mainz, Leipzig drawing at home with Düsseldorf. That's not how you win the league.
Danke Mainz!
I mean you only have to look at today's lineup. They are at a point where they roll out the academy players, because they can't do any worse than the senior players. Nübel has a mistake almost every game, Schöpf is a glorified 2nd division player, their fullbacks are loanees and at least Miranda shouldn't start for a Buli Team.
This might be the time where they finally have to pay the bill for their years and year of mismanagement. There doesn't seem to be any Draxler, Neuer or Sane around the corner to bail them out. Kabak is the only genuinely good player they have and he's "only" a cb and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a release clause either.
The other clubs don't give everything in every match and that is the reason why Bayern Munich are champions since 2013.
Should Dortmund beat them on the weekend then their CL place is really in danger.
And wouldn't that be a tragedy.
How do you win the league after Bayern has already won it?
2.Bundesliga
A play-off tie Bremen vs Hamburg would be great (Without fans of course not so much) but Hamburg's story will probably be that they will lose against Heidenheim on the weekend.
3.Bundesliga
That the league leader only has 57 points after 33 games is already poor quality but it's totally pathetic that the club on the 1st place is Bayern Munich II.
A play-off tie Bremen vs Hamburg would be great (Without fans of course not so much) but Hamburg's story will probably be that they will lose against Heidenheim on the weekend.
3.Bundesliga
That the league leader only has 57 points after 33 games is already poor quality but it's totally pathetic that the club on the 1st place is Bayern Munich II.
At least Bayern II cannot be promoted.
By not making such blunders throughout the whole season
Terrible league. Minus Bayern and Dortmund I don't see much difference between this and Eredivisie. When I look at players' stats I just think 1 goal or 1 assist counts as 0.5 in PL.
By not making such blunders throughout the whole season
In 2020, before yesterday, Dortmund had dropped 6 points in 14 matches. Still lost 4 points on Bayern during that period. In the end Bayern will probably finish the season at or above Dortmund's all time record points total.