What did you end up getting? Currently I'm running a Gelid Phantom Black CPU cooler which isn't loud at all but still the loudest thing in my rig. Thinking of going for a simple AIO water unit or a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro. Would love to go full water but it's insanely expensive.I'm about to make the plunge on some watercooling stuff
I wanna upgrade before I do it, but I also just want to do it
What did you end up getting? Currently I'm running a Gelid Phantom Black CPU cooler which isn't loud at all but still the loudest thing in my rig. Thinking of going for a simple AIO water unit or a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro. Would love to go full water but it's insanely expensive.
I've not done it yet. I want to wait to see what the new GPU will come in at first I think. It'd suck to buy a waterblock for £100 and then potentially switch GPU not far after.
For now I use a NZXT X62 or something, can't remember now... the X72 looks amazing but very expensive
With computers, theirs always new stuff coming out, if you waited, you'll always be waiting.Don't think it's a good time to build right now, prices will be rising and new processors and graphics should be released this year.
Read the last page mate.With computers, theirs always new stuff coming out, if you waited, you'll always be waiting.
For £1000 with a monitor included you should be aiming for 1080p with a 144mhz monitor. That will future proof you and enable you to run most games in the next 5+ years maxed out at 1080p with 100+ FPS.Console simpleton coming in peace. I’ve had PlayStations since the start and never really thought about a PC. But with the release of PS5 coming it’s got me thinking about swapping. All the games I play currently I can play on PC but the main reason is that I absolutely love the Total War games. I’ve literally only played it a few times at a mates years ago and I’ve seen loads of videos online. There’s really nothing that even comes close to it on console.
I’ve also been a long term watching fan of CS:GO so would love to try that. Also seems like the more abstract games are a lot more interesting on PC. I really don’t think I want to try and build one, at least not my first one. What’s a good entry level, all rounder? I’d be playing a mix of games but if spending an extra £200 - £300 for long term quality then I’d be happy to do so. Imagine my budget is about £1000 for arguments sake. Also not sure if it all comes together so factor in the cost of a monitor please. Did try google but all the facts and figures were hurting my brain.
Sweet thanks mate. Sorry for the potentially stupid question but I should just be looking for a setup capable of achieving those monitor stats? I shouldn’t bother worrying about any numbers associated with the computer. Like what motherboard it has and stuff?For £1000 with a monitor included you should be aiming for 1080p with a 144mhz monitor. That will future proof you and enable you to run most games in the next 5+ years maxed out at 1080p with 100+ FPS.
1440p is probably the sweet spot for PC gaming at the moment, though, it's only maybe 20% more expensive to achieve than 1080p, and much cheaper than 4k is. So if you were willing to spend an extra £200-300 to get a PC and monitor capable of that, it's worth it.
No you should. You want to make sure your motherboard, CPU and RAM are all compatible, after allSweet thanks mate. Sorry for the potentially stupid question but I should just be looking for a setup capable of achieving those monitor stats? I shouldn’t bother worrying about any numbers associated with the computer. Like what motherboard it has and stuff?
So what’s the obvious benefits to building your own? Price and customisation I assume? I’ve got plenty of time to research it but even as an electrician the one video that I just watched was stressing me outNo you should. You want to make sure your motherboard, CPU and RAM are all compatible, after all
pcpartpicker would be a good place to start. It has good build guides and when you select your own parts it will give you warnings if there are incompatible ones.
Here is a good example to start with for a 1440p 144mhz build: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/hpkcCJ/great-amd-gaming-build
Pretty much. A lot of big manufacturer's PC's won't be easily to upgrade either.So what’s the obvious benefits to building your own? Price and customisation I assume? I’ve got plenty of time to research it but even as an electrician the one video that I just watched was stressing me out
Awesome, I’ll spend the next few months getting my head round what I want exactly.Pretty much. A lot of big manufacturer's PC's won't be easily to upgrade either.
it's really not difficult. Get an anti-static wristband and give yourself a few hours and you'll be fine. It's just like slotting Lego.
The main mistake people make is just slotting the motherboard in without fitting the back screws first, meaning it sits directly on the case and gets fried. So.. don't do that
I wouldn't worry, it's a lot easier than you think, just watch a few videos beforehand.Awesome, I’ll spend the next few months getting my head round what I want exactly.
Don't stress it, it's fairly easy even for beginners and is actually a fun activity. You just need to take your time and treat every step with care. Case and motherboard manuals are your friend. Don't bother messing around with thermal paste if your shiny new CPU already has a nice, even layer applied (I know the new AMD Ryzens do, not sure about Intel CPUs).So what’s the obvious benefits to building your own? Price and customisation I assume? I’ve got plenty of time to research it but even as an electrician the one video that I just watched was stressing me out
Nice one. I must admit building my own would be way more satisfying. I’ll still give it a few months to come up with my final plan. I haven’t even got a desk or chair yet so best get my priorities straight!Don't stress it, it's fairly easy even for beginners and is actually a fun activity. You just need to take your time and treat every step with care. Case and motherboard manuals are your friend. Don't bother messing around with thermal paste if your shiny new CPU already has a nice, even layer applied (I know the new AMD Ryzens do, not sure about Intel CPUs).
I strongly advise you to create an account on PCPartPicker, save a list of parts and then open up a topic in the "Opinions wanted" forum: https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/forum/2-part-list-opinions-wanted/. You're not guaranteed to get replies but there's a good chance the helpful people there will resolve any compatibility issues for you and give some suggestions on how to improve your build. You can also browse the other threads for inspiration if they have a budget listed.
Console simpleton coming in peace. I’ve had PlayStations since the start and never really thought about a PC. But with the release of PS5 coming it’s got me thinking about swapping. All the games I play currently I can play on PC but the main reason is that I absolutely love the Total War games. I’ve literally only played it a few times at a mates years ago and I’ve seen loads of videos online. There’s really nothing that even comes close to it on console.
I’ve also been a long term watching fan of CS:GO so would love to try that. Also seems like the more abstract games are a lot more interesting on PC. I really don’t think I want to try and build one, at least not my first one. What’s a good entry level, all rounder? I’d be playing a mix of games but if spending an extra £200 - £300 for long term quality then I’d be happy to do so. Imagine my budget is about £1000 for arguments sake. Also not sure if it all comes together so factor in the cost of a monitor please. Did try google but all the facts and figures were hurting my brain.
I have already stumbled across a couple of pc building sites that do it for you. I do like the idea of doing it myself so will continue to explore that route for now. I’ll be honest I’ve saved all my life but never for anything in particular, so when I do want something I normally just dip into that pot. Works well as long as you don’t want lots of things. I really think I should take my time with this though. Essentially the main reason it came to my mind was that this time it’s going to be a PS5 or a PC and not both. I’ll give it a while and see what happens.I can help with parts etc if you need.
Also, if you'd like to spread the cost and not build one yourself. PCSpecialist is a very good company to use.
If lets say you pick a PC for 1k, you can pay up front, or save up the money over the year. If you have that money, if it's paid within a years time, you pay an extra £29 on top, no extras, so if you'd like to get that bit more, but feel it's tough, you can spread the cost with no real penalty.
(Thats how it used to be there anyway)
I have already stumbled across a couple of pc building sites that do it for you. I do like the idea of doing it myself so will continue to explore that route for now. I’ll be honest I’ve saved all my life but never for anything in particular, so when I do want something I normally just dip into that pot. Works well as long as you don’t want lots of things. I really think I should take my time with this though. Essentially the main reason it came to my mind was that this time it’s going to be a PS5 or a PC and not both. I’ll give it a while and see what happens.
Console simpleton coming in peace. I’ve had PlayStations since the start and never really thought about a PC. But with the release of PS5 coming it’s got me thinking about swapping. All the games I play currently I can play on PC but the main reason is that I absolutely love the Total War games. I’ve literally only played it a few times at a mates years ago and I’ve seen loads of videos online. There’s really nothing that even comes close to it on console.
I’ve also been a long term watching fan of CS:GO so would love to try that. Also seems like the more abstract games are a lot more interesting on PC. I really don’t think I want to try and build one, at least not my first one. What’s a good entry level, all rounder? I’d be playing a mix of games but if spending an extra £200 - £300 for long term quality then I’d be happy to do so. Imagine my budget is about £1000 for arguments sake. Also not sure if it all comes together so factor in the cost of a monitor please. Did try google but all the facts and figures were hurting my brain.
I don't play online and largely agree that online gameplay is pointless time waste. But people also get addicted to it on consoles too.I'm on the opposite side. Been a console gamer throughout childhood with megadrive, master system, dreamcast, etc, but then I stopped with the PS2/3 when I got a PC and started playing CM 99 and FPS with my friends and neighbours such as CS 1.5, Quake and UT. They still play these days because it became an automated behavior of dealing with their free time. I sometimes still play but it's very rare. I'm much happier without a computer and I worry when I see my godson and cousins sinking hundreds of hours a week on CSGO. That shit will eat you inside. You can spend years practicing and improving, completely addicted to becoming good. Once you get good and realize it's all pointless you will end up with nothing. FPS gaming in particular adds zero to your self development. And who cares about it? if anything, many years of gaming makes your brain lazier and slower. Could be the constant dopamine abuse (sorry this is not my field i have no idea about how the brain works, just how mine feels).
First of all you're not sitting on some chair but laying on a comfy couch in front of a big ass 65" TV. With consoles you turn it on only to play a game and focus on that experience exclusively. Pc's are much more distracting, thanks to the internet. Second, PC online games are mostly rage inducing. Even if you get very good (I actually played CS in a few tourneys abroad) you will always rage one day or another. And when you win, the feeling is very superficial. It's like a drug, you're always itching to play a bit, deal with that boredom, even if the games suck now. Objectively, modern online games are much worse than they were 10 years ago, they got dumbed down for the masses, but that's another story.
Console gaming however, I see it as a totally different but superior experience, especially talking about games that offer you a solid story and gameplay. Such as Kojima's, the whole Souls series, Control, etc. And once you're done you turn it off and go do something (hopefully) productive. It's obviously highly personal and a result of many years of competitive and casual gaming. Sorry if I sounded patronizing. Logically, if i never tried PC gaming I would have wanted to try it, pretty badly. But i'm still pointlessly spoiling it all for you!
Firstly I’m going to apologise. I feel like I’m just running you guys round in circles but I need to grasp the fundamentals before anything else. I’ve just been on PCspecialist and it gave me more questions. Firstly there’s like 30 of each option to pick from. I nailed the casing fine, just went for a one that lights up and stuff which is cool. But where to start with memory, graphics cards and motherboards? I think I’ll probably give them a call and see what they suggest. I kind of just want to tell them my budget, my needs and give me the best I can get for that budget.You sound like me I save save save then splash when I want.
One advantage of PC also is all xbox exclusives are on PC, so theres that, and you can now play a lot of PS games on the PC, whether they've been added to steam, epic etc, or through PSNow which means you can play games that way also
That's a very one-sided view of pc gaming though. It can anything you want, whether that's competitive gaming or casual, relaxing single-player gaming. I seriously dislike the term "superior" when talking about either console or pc gaming. One experience will be better on pc and the other will be better on console, for whatever reason. They both have their place.I'm on the opposite side. Been a console gamer throughout childhood with megadrive, master system, dreamcast, etc, but then I stopped with the PS2/3 when I got a PC and started playing CM 99 and FPS with my friends and neighbours such as CS 1.5, Quake and UT. They still play these days because it became an automated behavior of dealing with their free time. I sometimes still play but it's very rare. I'm much happier without a computer and I worry when I see my godson and cousins sinking hundreds of hours a week on CSGO. That shit will eat you inside. You can spend years practicing and improving, completely addicted to becoming good. Once you get good and realize it's all pointless you will end up with nothing. FPS gaming in particular adds zero to your self development. And who cares about it? if anything, many years of gaming makes your brain lazier and slower. Could be the constant dopamine abuse (sorry this is not my field i have no idea about how the brain works, just how mine feels).
First of all you're not sitting on some chair but laying on a comfy couch in front of a big ass 65" TV. With consoles you turn it on only to play a game and focus on that experience exclusively. Pc's are much more distracting, thanks to the internet. Second, PC online games are mostly rage inducing. Even if you get very good (I actually played CS in a few tourneys abroad) you will always rage one day or another. And when you win, the feeling is very superficial. It's like a drug, you're always itching to play a bit, deal with that boredom, even if the games suck now. Objectively, modern online games are much worse than they were 10 years ago, they got dumbed down for the masses, but that's another story.
Console gaming however, I see it as a totally different but superior experience, especially talking about games that offer you a solid story and gameplay. Such as Kojima's, the whole Souls series, Control, etc. And once you're done you turn it off and go do something (hopefully) productive. It's obviously highly personal and a result of many years of competitive and casual gaming. Sorry if I sounded patronizing. Logically, if i never tried PC gaming I would have wanted to try it, pretty badly. But i'm still pointlessly spoiling it all for you!
Don’t worry you’re not spoiling it mate. I’ve always been the same in that I like being able to turn on my console and play whilst chilling on the sofa. I also can’t see myself ever grinding something too much to try and become the best at it. That’s a young mans game and I’m 28 now. I’ve played Rocket league for 4 years now and whilst most people my level would be practicing certain mechanics for hours on end, I’m happy just jumping into games knowing I’ve pretty much hit my ceiling in terms of skill. I just fancy a change and the ability to play the games I’ve loved watching for years now. There’s obviously a chance I’ll be massively disappointed but won’t lose too much value if I decide it’s not for me.I'm on the opposite side. Been a console gamer throughout childhood with megadrive, master system, dreamcast, etc, but then I stopped with the PS2/3 when I got a PC and started playing CM 99 and FPS with my friends and neighbours such as CS 1.5, Quake and UT. They still play these days because it became an automated behavior of dealing with their free time. I sometimes still play but it's very rare. I'm much happier without a computer and I worry when I see my godson and cousins sinking hundreds of hours a week on CSGO. That shit will eat you inside. You can spend years practicing and improving, completely addicted to becoming good. Once you get good and realize it's all pointless you will end up with nothing. FPS gaming in particular adds zero to your self development. And who cares about it? if anything, many years of gaming makes your brain lazier and slower. Could be the constant dopamine abuse (sorry this is not my field i have no idea about how the brain works, just how mine feels).
First of all you're not sitting on some chair but laying on a comfy couch in front of a big ass 65" TV. With consoles you turn it on only to play a game and focus on that experience exclusively. Pc's are much more distracting, thanks to the internet. Second, PC online games are mostly rage inducing. Even if you get very good (I actually played CS in a few tourneys abroad) you will always rage one day or another. And when you win, the feeling is very superficial. It's like a drug, you're always itching to play a bit, deal with that boredom, even if the games suck now. Objectively, modern online games are much worse than they were 10 years ago, they got dumbed down for the masses, but that's another story.
Console gaming however, I see it as a totally different but superior experience, especially talking about games that offer you a solid story and gameplay. Such as Kojima's, the whole Souls series, Control, etc. And once you're done you turn it off and go do something (hopefully) productive. It's obviously highly personal and a result of many years of competitive and casual gaming. Sorry if I sounded patronizing. Logically, if i never tried PC gaming I would have wanted to try it, pretty badly. But i'm still pointlessly spoiling it all for you!
Firstly I’m going to apologise. I feel like I’m just running you guys round in circles but I need to grasp the fundamentals before anything else. I’ve just been on PCspecialist and it gave me more questions. Firstly there’s like 30 of each option to pick from. I nailed the casing fine, just went for a one that lights up and stuff which is cool. But where to start with memory, graphics cards and motherboards? I think I’ll probably give them a call and see what they suggest. I kind of just want to tell them my budget, my needs and give me the best I can get for that budget.
Yeah I’ve got discord on my phone. Are you in the Redcafe one?Flip me a pm if you want, I can go through it with you
or better still, discord if you have it
Yeah I’ve got discord on my phone. Are you in the Redcafe one?
I've been waiting for years for intel to ditch the 14nm cpu, bastards they areWith computers, theirs always new stuff coming out, if you waited, you'll always be waiting.
Console simpleton coming in peace. I’ve had PlayStations since the start and never really thought about a PC. But with the release of PS5 coming it’s got me thinking about swapping. All the games I play currently I can play on PC but the main reason is that I absolutely love the Total War games. I’ve literally only played it a few times at a mates years ago and I’ve seen loads of videos online. There’s really nothing that even comes close to it on console.
I’ve also been a long term watching fan of CS:GO so would love to try that. Also seems like the more abstract games are a lot more interesting on PC. I really don’t think I want to try and build one, at least not my first one. What’s a good entry level, all rounder? I’d be playing a mix of games but if spending an extra £200 - £300 for long term quality then I’d be happy to do so. Imagine my budget is about £1000 for arguments sake. Also not sure if it all comes together so factor in the cost of a monitor please. Did try google but all the facts and figures were hurting my brain.
I've made the jump across with the ryzen a couple of years ago & have been very pleased with the setup.I've been waiting for years for intel to ditch the 14nm cpu, bastards they are
And they just went and released another revised version of the same shit. Im going for ryzen 4600/4700 once it releases in a couple of months.
Why's that? I'm glad I got my 2080S on a good deal early this year because the 3000 series and AMD cards are taking forever and I've never used my rig more than in the past 6 months due to COVID. If the new cards are a massive upgrade I can always sell it. I upgraded from an i7-3770k and a GTX680 though so situation was a bit different to yours.I'm due an upgrade, I'm glad I stayed clear of the 2080 when I was tempted.
My ol' RX 580 has been one of the best cards I've ever owned for lifespan, and I've never even needed to overclock (just mess with the power consumption/fans a little). It would last me well into next gen too, but I'm getting the itch!