Bruno Guimarães | Newcastle United
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If they let us pay with monopoly money, maybe.
I rate Paqueta higher.
The lad isn’t leaving Newcastle to go to Utd. He trolled Arsenal when he signed for Newcastle and they were near the relegation zone and we were in top 4 position at the time. I honestly believe the only teams he’d leave for are the 2 Spanish giants, perhaps City at a push.
Him and bruno in the same midfield would be something, if casimero found his old madrid form that would be an amazing brazilian midfield trio
I’m not sure he’s that good, wouldn’t say he’s a good deal better than Partey Rice, Odegaard, Mac Allister Szoboszlai.
Agreed.
Even from 2003, I don't get the idea where us signing players from Newcastle coming from. Back in the 90s till mid 2000, Newcastle was one of the most if you taking inflation rate into account.You think we can sign players from Newcastle?it's not 2003 anymore.
But yes. He's a very good player.
There is a reason that people're needed a reminder in Shearer vs a b c player debate about Shearer not playing for a poor small club. Newcastle invested heavily back then. Shearer was record signing on world level, not just Premier League record. The current Newcastle may have spent a decent amount spreading on different signings, but IMO they're yet to even reach that level of spending from Newcastle of that time trying to win a PL.
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You put him with Rice and Odegaard; he’s far better than the rest at being a 2-way midfielder. He’s an exceptional player, a real driving force. I’m surprised you don’t think he’s that good, tbh.
That’s a crazy take to be honest.
Really? You think there's a lot between them?
Guimaraes is a bit more all action but I prefer Paqueta's elegance and technique on the ball. He would have excelled at City if that move had happened, would be perfect for Arsenal as a left 8 as well.
Hopefully this guy is our number 1 target to partner Mainoo for next season. He’s only going to get better.
Paqueta is more specialist playmaker/attacker than Guimaraes as a conductor. A conductor doing as well as Guimaraes would be coveted by most top teams even for squad role if he's available at reasonable fee. Not many top teams would look at Paqueta. City can played Alvarez in supporting striker role on top Bernardo Silva and Foden as advanced no 8. They sold Palmer who can play across the attacking/advanced midfielder position, who can very much be developed into better player than Paqueta. Not conclusively, but Paquate is likely a case of big fish small pond.
Overrated player. Would have problems even getting on our bench with current midfielders we got.
He was on his way to City for £80m before the betting stuff came out.
Bad wind up attempt
I just wanted to check but....you're joking, right?
Doesn't mean he would succeed. Look at Kalvin Phillips since moving to City. Grealish has to be a different players to play well for City, and outside of last season, he can easily be out of the team when off form.
City was after Fred, Maguire, Alexis Sanchez, Jorginho too. Their interest doesn't mean the players would always be a success at their level/PL top level.
Why? He reminds me of a Robbie Savage and I wouldn't call him world class player.
No one can see into the future, the point was that a big club did want him and were willing to pay big money to get him. We will see what happens next summer if he's cleared of the betting allegations.
I can understand that. I believe at one point he is linked with Arsenal but in the end Arsenal didn't make an official offer. He would have been a great buy for any EPL club.
I’d say he’s 2 or three levels above Paqueta tbh.
That’s wild. Paqueta is brilliant. I’d have Bruno in my team but I can’t quite tell if you’re overrating Bruno or underrating Paqueta here.
Paqueta is okay. Not convinced he’s special. Bruno is one of the best in the league in his position. I’ve never seen utd play West Ham and gone “bloody hell Paqueta is hurting us”. Must have missed his recent form or something.
I mean not good enough to turn already title challengers to winners, I think Liverpool and Arsenal are good for a challenge without him but i don’t see him being the difference between them challenging and winning the league.
He is good but he is in a cluster of other good midfielders, I don’t think he’s much better than the others at being a two way midfielder either.
Like what has he done to separate himself from the likes of Mac Allister and Bissouma? He has the same number of good seasons in this league, and he has actually been poor for Brazil, not saying that should be a deal breaker has the likes of Vini have been also, just using to drum the point he hasn’t actually proven to be a level above the names I named.
Exactly.
Fantastic footballer
Imagine having a midfield.
Can't believe more isn't being made of his rash behavior on the pitch..
An over rated thug, really should have been sent off last night, not the first time he's lost his head on the pitch.
An over rated thug, really should have been sent off last night, not the first time he's lost his head on the pitch.
He should be red carded for violent play every other game, really. Newcastle are quite a disgusting team in general, and he sets the tone.
Agreed, nothing ever seems to be mentioned about it though!
Last night's 'tackle' was reckless and he had zero intention of going for the ball, he deliberately wanted to hurt the opposition.
You’d love him in your side!!
There's a general narrative being built concerning Newcastle to paint them as plucky underdogs going through a fairytale. Nothing that is removed from that narrative will be discussed - it's like their time wasting last season, nothing was ever said about it even though all the data showed they were awful, but then in a game against us, Howe or some of the players mentioned we time wasted and it became a talking point about Utd. The media in general is terrible at having any kind of critical thinking, and are likely being fed narratives by their producers and editors, so that explains it.
Going by that logic Caicedo and Colwill should also have seen red.
He's a thorough gobshite, just for celebrating a block like it was a goal in front of the Chelsea fans and his penalty celebraton in the shòotout as well..
How he stayed on the pitch against us I'll never know. Should have had a straight red and at least two yellows.
It’s the advantage you get when you don’t play for one of the “big boys”. His ratty behaviour gets swept under the carpet because 1. Neutrals don’t care enough to get animated about a Newcastle player and 2. Despite them being on tele all the fecking time, nobody really watches Newcastle like that.
The Premier League's Draymond Green in the past few weeks
Disagree entirely about Colwill because that one wasn't even a foul, let alone violent conduct, but agree that Caicedo could easily have been sent off if VAR were in place. But while Caicedo's tackle was horribly mistimed, do you really think it was with malicious intent? Why would anyone go out of their way to try and hurt an opponent in the first minute of the game and risk playing the full 90 minutes a man down?
Bruno G on the other hand went full speed into Maatsen knowing exactly what he was doing. Looking at it live and especially in the replays it's obvious he was deliberately trying to hurt Maatsen because of how frustrated he was. They'd just conceded to a late sucker punch to equalize the game and Gallagher had just hacked him down with a tactical foul in midfield so for the last couple minutes of the game he was visibly rattled and out for 'revenge'.
Any player can commit the occasional 'horror tackle' as a result of misjudging the movement of the opposing player and/or the ball but Guimaraes is quickly building himself a reputation as a dirty thug and to me that's a whole lot worse. Good footballer, but a garbage fire of a human being.
Yeah this shit really needs to fecking end. Commentators and pundits are beyond insufferable with it. They’re a nation state club ffs.
You could transform our midfield with Paqueta, Guimaraes and Palhinha. Hopefully INEOS get a grip of things soon before we end up signing Modric, Raboit, and Veratti for £200m.