I hope we have to start the season without a shirt sponsor because the offers are that low due to our current performance
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How has this thread turned into chat about a shirt sponsor and AWB by the way? 
It really could be brought back on track very simply; bring in a level headed footballing CEO (vds my choice) and let Ed be CEO if making mountains of money. Sack Arnold.
How has this thread turned into chat about a shirt sponsor and AWB by the way?
Because this is the Caf..
And nothing is doing with the transfer it seems!
Sponsorship due to success applies to smaller clubs.
Thats why the board are so comfortable
New sponsor going to be Poundstretcher
This thread has taken a turn for the worse. A lot of moans but no news on Bruno.
Jesus my muppetry is all over the place. My first thought was excitement about if the logo would look better than the Chevrolet one
Page 191 of the Bruno Fernandes transfer page is a discussion about a new shirt sponsor and Aaron Wan Bissaka.
Classic transfer muppetry.
Classic transfer muppetry.
Some get Iran to blow up Switzerland quick and do us all a favour. Only a load of cows in fields and rich bankers anyway. Won't be missed.
If Woodward is unsackable then it makes the most sense. Clearly Woodward has been elevated above his abilities, he is a CFO and nothing else which is respectable but means that we seemingly don't have competent COOs and CEOs. Ideally both should leave and be replaced by a proper CEO and a proper COO. The latter is ignored by the press but the fact that we struggle to sign staff members or that fans are upset with their Old Trafford experience is on the COO, it's the heart of his job.
Isn't the fact that we now need to gatecrash the WEF touting for shirt sponsorships a bit worrying?
No, networking and building a relationship with big companies is very important.
Is this a new Snow White movie?
They’ll be going door to door with clipboards next or chugging people walking round the city centre “hi mate! How are you? Are you having a good day? You look like someone who is into football. Have you heard of Manchester United?”
We have a COO and MD but I think both are CAs/MBAs so in reality you only have one skill set from Woodward to Judge, all are bean counters and there really is no one with the appreciation of sport, football in particular, so this is why we have these harebrained decisions where you haggle over 10m when the chance for earning 60m is on the line. Someone like VDS or Gary Neville up there will know that whilst we don't deserve CL football, based on form, stars have aligned to give us a chance and we need to strengthen so as to maximize the chance and lessen the burden for the summer.
Who wants to break the record for a sponsorship for a bang average team in the Premiership that isn't concerned about winning trophies anymore..... Think Avram glazer will be a bit shocked when he fails to find a suiter
I get that but don't we have mid level marketers and consultants to set things like this up?
Let's be honest, they will want the next deal arranged as soon as possible in case of another bad performing season next year.
Wait until they are advertising on day time TV like one of those charities for injured donkeys.
"Could you sponsor a club in need?"
That's my point, Arnold is the COO and former CFO, Woodward is the CEO that allegedly wants to act as the CFO. Also diplomas means very little, these people have been out of school a long time ago, experience and personality are what matters, they are seemingly more comfortable on the commercial side of things and don't really bring anything to the other side which means that our managers are alone. That setup worked when we had SAF, Gill and before him Kenyon were also former CFOs but SAF has a skillset that didn't require to have a football/sport management head above him.
If you send mid level marketers to talk to some of the most influential executives in the world, they will take it as an insult.
Yeah, there is that too!
This is definitely not happening now but I do love Sky reporting that we’re failing to meet Sporting’s price and in fact backed out of a provisional agreement on the fee. Further reports of Joel f’n Glazer vetoing the deal was the cherry on the top.
I have to think that it was Mendes who strategically provided these leaks to throw United under the bus. It looks as if we’re going to burn a relationship with another super agent on our botched handling of the Bruno transfer. We look incompetent all around and clearly now “Bantz FC”. Mendes is more refined than Raiola but privately he’s probably thinking the same thing: why would I bring any of my clients to this shambles of a club.
I have to think that it was Mendes who strategically provided these leaks to throw United under the bus. It looks as if we’re going to burn a relationship with another super agent on our botched handling of the Bruno transfer. We look incompetent all around and clearly now “Bantz FC”. Mendes is more refined than Raiola but privately he’s probably thinking the same thing: why would I bring any of my clients to this shambles of a club.
I agree with everything you said at the exception of this small point, over the years our managers have clearly picked the players that they wanted in the positions that they wanted as long as we had enough money to maket the deal happen. For me the issue is that they themselves weren't SAF or competent DOFs and created their own mess which could have been avoided if like you said their superiors weren't all out of their depth when it comes to football management.
Is this deal on or off now? I have lost interest..
To get champions league football for next season via 4th in the league or winning the EL 2 quality players at least are needed to be signed or loaned in during this transfer window, probably 3 now with the long term Rashford injury and its looking more likely the transfer window will be closed without bringing anyone in. Thats on the board and Woodward if they don't do the required business in the next week, worst of all if they fail they will use Ole as a puppet to tell the media that he's happy with his squad and players coming back from injury will be like new signings.
To get champions league football for next season via 4th in the league or winning the EL 2 quality players at least are needed to be signed or loaned in during this transfer window, probably 3 now with the long term Rashford injury and its looking more likely the transfer window will be closed without bringing anyone in. Thats on the board and Woodward if they don't do the required business in the next week, worst of all if they fail they will use Ole as a puppet to tell the media that he's happy with his squad and players coming back from injury will be like new signings.
This is exactly how they got that "we've got 700m fans" data.
"Had an accident at work that wasn't your fault?"
If you can't see how much we've been shafted with Maguire and Wan Bissaka and that we could have spent that £130m better then I can't help you.
The worst thing about it is that the most important people in this context, our recruitment team, seem to think the same way as you.
Us overpaying for players anyway x English players overhype x Utd having a 'buy British' policy = a recepie for disaster (and so far that's exactly what it's been).
What evidence is there that we have “a buy British policy?” Most of the criticism Has been levelled At Pogba, who’s hardly British.
Usual conjecture
We bid for Haaland as well or has that escaped you.
Okay, I'm out. I was of the mindset this would still get done, I'm done with it - it's dead as far as I'm concerned. Our squad is dying and our signings in January will be Neil Ashton, Spin Doctor and a new shirt sponsor.
This season is a write off. I think that much is clear. We are not getting any players thus the "6 in" brefing today.
Looking like Dean Ashton too at this rate.
Off topic. He was going to come to us or us bidding before that horrendous injury
Call injurylawyers4u
I just don’t get this club. we’re not in a position to negotiate hard ball over 5/10m. We’re in a crisis. Sporting Lisbon and everyone else knows that.
The smartest move the board could do is negotiate a fair deal. And give the team the best opportunity to rectify this mess and to put us in a stronger negotiating position for future deals.
But yet again everything is left to the last minute when the team is in dire need of players. If the club was more forward thinking some of these injuries might not of occurred.
ps sign the petition.
https://www.change.org/p/manchester...it_exp=abi-14906129-en-GB&share_bandit_var=v1
The smartest move the board could do is negotiate a fair deal. And give the team the best opportunity to rectify this mess and to put us in a stronger negotiating position for future deals.
But yet again everything is left to the last minute when the team is in dire need of players. If the club was more forward thinking some of these injuries might not of occurred.
ps sign the petition.
https://www.change.org/p/manchester...it_exp=abi-14906129-en-GB&share_bandit_var=v1
How has this thread turned into chat about a shirt sponsor and AWB by the way?
Cos we're clearly not bringing anyone in
Please tell me you're joking.
Fair enough, it was first talked about in the press around last April/May but that means nothing.
However, the fact we then went out and actually bought three British players and nobody else is pretty strong evidence.
Also, what has Pogba getting criticised got to do with this?
And even if it was relevant, the fact that he's getting made a scapegoat and isn't British, if anything backs up what I'm saying.
It's the sane with Haaland, the fact that we weren't prepared to push the boat out for him but did it for Maguire and AWB only backs up what I'm saying.
As recently as the post match analysis of the Burnley defeat, Rio was banging on about it as well, as if this 'buying young British players' was the way forward.
So, as I said, there's plenty of evidence.
A good businessman understands his seat on the negotiating table.
Unfortunately, Ed doesn't.
Unfortunately, Ed doesn't.
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