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Still cry about this before I go to sleep each night :(

Christ, imagine if we had got both bati-gol and shearer!!! ooooff,

Then again, we we wouldn't have witnessed perhaps the greatest striking partnership with Cole and Yorke! Man were we spoilt back then :lol:
 
Or we invest in order to make top 4 seeing as Liverpool are the only team not looking flaky this season
This is probably the easiest year to get Top 4 if we make the right signings but we are going to be stupid as usual and wait for the "right" targets in summer who won't join because we don't have CL.
 
This is probably the easiest year to get Top 4 if we make the right signings but we are going to be stupid as usual and wait for the "right" targets in summer who won't join because we don't have CL.
nail on head, just made a similar point in Jimenez thread
 
Kenyon.....:mad:

Nightmare over him not paying £10million
Still can't forget how Kenyon stabbed us in the back with that one. Stuffed up the transfer when he was at United, took over the Chelsea job and signed Robben for them. That was so painful.
 
This is probably the easiest year to get Top 4 if we make the right signings but we are going to be stupid as usual and wait for the "right" targets in summer who won't join because we don't have CL.

Madness ey.

Fernandes, Piatek & Olmo just a few of the guys who seem to be easily available for decent value, notwithstanding the litany of players who'd make a big difference to our squad who've already moved.

Not investing this month would be incompetence of the highest order for me, as bad a decision as we've made these last few years.

Fingers crossed they'll pull their fingers out and get something done.
 
United doesn't have an history of making record breaking signings on a regular basis and it used to have a strict wage structure which prevented the club from getting the likes of Batistuta.
We were frequently breaking records and out-spending all domestic rivals prior to the Glazers.

Off the top of my head:

Robson- British transfer record
Hughes - club record signing
Pallister - club record (a year after)
Keane - club record (1993)
Andy Cole - British transfer record
Stam - world record for a defender
Ferdinand - first £30m British player and world record for a defender
Veron - British transfer record
Rooney - world record for a teenager
 
Still can't forget how Kenyon stabbed us in the back with that one. Stuffed up the transfer when he was at United, took over the Chelsea job and signed Robben for them. That was so painful.
Robben admitted as much. He was sure he was going to Utd but then Kenyon fecked us over
 
We were frequently breaking records and out-spending all domestic rivals prior to the Glazers.

Off the top of my head:

Hughes - club record signing
Pallister - club record (a year after)
Keane - club record (1993)

Crazy that we managed to break the club record signing so many times. You'd think Liverpool, Arsenal or Blackburn might have held it for a while.
 
There's more chance of this happening than not, I reckon, but its looking like a deadline day compromise and no other incomings (which we desperately needed).
 
Stay away of this guy. Try to get a better player In the summer. There is no way i would pay 50 or 60 Mill for Bruno Fernandes.
 
We were frequently breaking records and out-spending all domestic rivals prior to the Glazers.

Off the top of my head:

Robson- British transfer record
Hughes - club record signing
Pallister - club record (a year after)
Keane - club record (1993)
Andy Cole - British transfer record
Stam - world record for a defender
Ferdinand - first £30m British player and world record for a defender
Veron - British transfer record
Rooney - world record for a teenager

A club record isn't exactly what I have in mind and you basically mentioned 6 worthy records in 24 years, that's not impressive for the one of the richest clubs in the world. We beat all these club records under the Glazers, we have the most expensive PL striker(Lukaku), the most expensive fullback, the most expensive CB, we have the most expensive player in the world(Pogba), the most expensive teenager twice if I'm not mistaken(Shaw and Martial), Di Maria was at one point the british record too. During the last 7 years we beat more records than we did during the 81-04 period that you mentioned, that's what I call regularly but I may be too literal.
 
Crazy that we managed to break the club record signing so many times. You'd think Liverpool, Arsenal or Blackburn might have held it for a while.
Haha! Fair point- I think one or two of those might have been the British record too (Robbo, Hughesie and Andy Cole?) but I didn't want to overreach in case I be accused of making shit up to suit my 'agenda'...

The point is that unlike the original poster's claim, United were well known for big spending, especially by the standards of British clubs, who we routinely blew out of the water in the market.

Edit... just looked it up- we held the British transfer record from 81 (Robbo), to 95/96, breaking it twice ourselves during that time (Hughes and Cole).
 
Stay away of this guy. Try to get a better player In the summer. There is no way i would pay 50 or 60 Mill for Bruno Fernandes.
It's very cheap for a player like him. He'll solve most of uniteds problems on the pitch.
 
We can only manage one transfer at a time, and in a short transfer window, what with all the usual pissing about, that basically means 1 transfer.


It's bollocks isn't it, we didn't struggle to handle more than one signing previously. All this translates to is "we only want to sign one player".
 
What will really infuriate me is, if we sign Bruno on the last day of the transfer market, we would have wasted almost a month, wherein we could have wrapped him and another player easily and given them to the team to play during this busy period.
But no, our incompetent board takes a month to sign one player and haggle over 5-10 million, when all we are doing is losing games and destroying our chance to play in champions League next year.
 
A club record isn't exactly what I have in mind and you basically mentioned 6 worthy records in 24 years, that's not impressive for the one of the richest clubs in the world. We beat all these club records under the Glazers, we have the most expensive PL striker(Lukaku), the most expensive fullback, the most expensive CB, we have the most expensive player in the world(Pogba), the most expensive teenager twice if I'm not mistaken(Shaw and Martial), Di Maria was at one point the british record too. During the last 7 years we beat more records than we did during the 81-04 period that you mentioned, that's what I call regularly but I may be too literal.

Whether it's impressive or not is subjective, but what's your underlying point? From your initial post I took it to be that we transitioned from a period of relative frugality to profligate spending under the Glazers, which I don't think is backed up by the facts.

We spent vast amounts more than any other side in the league (and virtually every club in the world besides a couple of Serie A clubs who were swimming in cash) during the 80s, 90s and early 00s.

In terms of domestic financial hegemony, consider that we held the domestic transfer record between 81-96, then 01-06. That's 20 out of 25 years mostly filled with unparalleled domestic success.

Nobody would deny that the Glazers have spent money like drunken sailors for the last 8 years in a desperate attempt to recover lost ground, but let's not pretend that we weren't throwing our financial muscle around as much (if not more), before they had ever heard of Manchester United.
 
What will really infuriate me is, if we sign Bruno on the last day of the transfer market, we would have wasted almost a month, wherein we could have wrapped him and another player easily and given them to the team to play during this busy period.
But no, our incompetent board takes a month to sign one player and haggle over 5-10 million, when all we are doing is losing games and destroying our chance to play in champions League next year.

Woodward doesn't like winning, only money.
 
We were frequently breaking records and out-spending all domestic rivals prior to the Glazers.

Off the top of my head:

Robson- British transfer record
Hughes - club record signing
Pallister - club record (a year after)
Keane - club record (1993)
Andy Cole - British transfer record
Stam - world record for a defender
Ferdinand - first £30m British player and world record for a defender
Veron - British transfer record
Rooney - world record for a teenager

We've splashed out ridiculous money under Glazers aswell. It's just that the majority of ones we've threw massive money at under Ed has been failures. Lukaku/ Sanchez / Pogba / DiMaria come to mind

I know we didnt pay a fee for Sanchez, but them mad wages make up for it
 
They did a few things:

1) They realised that the innate potential revenues for United was much bigger than the previous owners (Coolmore Gang and the Edwards) had even realised under the EPL umbrella.

2) The LBOs the purchase of the club and thus exposing it to higher financial baggage and risk than before.

3) I dont think we can criticise them for being penny pinchers in general. However, I think the mistake the Glazers made was not recognising the dangers or the linkage of team performance and long term revenue streams.

I think they thought it was a given that United would always be competing, given their history and ability to bale ourselves out by spending more and buying the best players. This is their lack of knowledge of football and not knowing the history of United ie. we have been relegated before.

They didn't just think that. Woodward outright told them and the rest of the shareholders, as recently as in 2018, that it didnt matter if we were shit team with shit performance:

"During United's quarterly conference call with shareholders, Woodward was asked if the improved performance in the Premier League this season had played a part in another bumper set of financial numbers for the world's richest club.

Woodward replied: "Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business."

source: https://www.espn.com/soccer/manches...-make-money-regardless-of-results-ed-woodward

If I were a significant United shareholder I would campaign for his removal for saying such idiotic thing, but I am not. So it's up to the shareholders to decide whether a moron with such dumb views is taking good care of their money or not. The fact is: we have been declining in the Deloitte index of richest football clubs and not only we are not the richest worldwide anymore (Barca and Real overtook us) but we are well on our way to losing #1 status even in EPL, while Liverpool and City are growing and we are shrinking. So how about him financial genius Woodward?
 
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