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He did what is more important and what made us win the game, and people still complain. It's him who ruins the team's dynamics and bla bla bla.
You just named a bunch of midfielders from a past era before Pep and Klopp changed the game with how teams have to play both with and without the ball though. Having Bruno sit up near the striker while we are trying to build up play, essentially putting us in a 4-2-4, is a fecking terrible recipe for elevating us back to the top. Sure 10-15 years ago you could give him a free license to do whatever and he’d pop up with enough contributions to be a real asset, but nowadays controlling the first two phases of the game is just as important as the final third. It’s exactly what ETH is trying to impart on this team, that you don’t have to be some creative wizard to fashion chances if you can methodically move the ball around as a team to exploit spaces and win the ball high up the pitch when defending.
Excusing a midfielder for consistent general poor play (going on almost 2 years btw) because he pops up with a nice finish is a sure fire way to watch us continue to struggle against any decent team with a good structural press and quality midfielders.
Absobloodylutely spot on.Of course he needs to score but that’s sort of peoples issue isn’t it? He’s not a fecking forward, he’s a midfielder so people that are complaining are those that would prefer him to improve and help the cohesion of the side with his passing and movement buzzing around the middle of the park instead of adding to the disjointed play of the team by making stupid decisions with the ball and being disconnected from the rest of the midfield. Bagging a goal is nice but at this point he’s going to HAVE to continue scoring to warrant a place in the team because otherwise he’s a detriment.
It’s not some contrarian take to want Bruno to play better in the other parts of his game. Goals and assists come and go but the other parts are what you actually build a side around.
Put in a shift, popped up all over the pitch, took his goal very well, and was otherwise total, unadulterated shite.
Vintage Bruno.
It reminds of Rooney a bit. Rooney had to mature out of the excited puppy phase when he would just tear all over the pitch. Bruno is still doing that. Everywhere yet nowhere.He is everywhere but yet he is nowhere when we are building up.
Another shitty performance but this time masked with a goal.
If you're inconsistent in possession you're shit in possessionGood goal, did feck all apart from that. So so inconsistent in possession. It's very annoying watching him not being able to make the simplest passes so often.
If you're inconsistent in possession you're shit in possession
It reminds of Rooney a bit. Rooney had to mature out of the excited puppy phase when he would just tear all over the pitch. Bruno is still doing that. Everywhere yet nowhere.
Rooney was a far better more mature player in his application than Bruno ever was.
I get the excited puppy phase bit off the ball, but Rooney wasn't like that with the ball. Bruno treats it like a hot potato.
I thought he did OK today. It was a good finish, hopefully he can build on it.
No arguments here, very happy the chance didn't fall to Rashford.His
it was an exceptional finish… no way rashford scores that
I know what the word means as I'm sure you can assume. But in a footballing context. For example if say, a midfielder has a 50% pass completion rate it isn't inconsistent its shit.no?… inconsistent - Meaning sometimes good, sometimes shit.
unless you understand a different meaning of the word?
No you’ve explained it well, I just disagreeI know what the word means as I'm sure you can assume. But in a footballing context. For example if say, a midfielder has a 50% pass completion rate it isn't inconsistent its shit.
(Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly)
Ok cool. Its just that for me to say inconsistent in possession, which is more than pass completion, means not good in possession. Its not one of his strengths is it to be fair. I wasn't trying to be pedantic but just the logical way I process things. Not a fan of his in general however so maybe it's that.No you’ve explained it well, I just disagree
he has an 80% pass completion rate this year so far… de bruyne has 84%
What did the scouting department sayWe'll never play consistently well with this guy in the team. Too erratic and undisciplined. Seems like our scouting department was spot on about him and yet we bought him anyway.
I've felt this way for a long time and unfortunately he seems to keep proving me right. And now he's on massive money, so we cannot offload.
That he turns over the ball too muchWhat did the scouting department say
The only difference is Bruno's passes are back to the players behind most of the time.No you’ve explained it well, I just disagree
he has an 80% pass completion rate this year so far… de bruyne has 84%
Rooney was kind of wasteful in his later years but never as much as Fernandes. Some of the things he does, like that "shot" aka pass to the goalkeeper in this match, are utterly baffling.I get the excited puppy phase bit off the ball, but Rooney wasn't like that with the ball. Bruno treats it like a hot potato.
Seconded.I am sure people have already mentioned this but Bruno should be taken off the pitch as soon as Ronaldo is brought on it. He just tries unrealistic balls to Ronaldo as soon as he is on the pitch even if it is last minute. Could have cost us in both matches.
Sometimes you just have to accept and adapt to a players weaknesses. Like Trent for example. Suspect defensively, dispossessed I think the most, not great passing stats but his goals and assists are crazy. Liverpool can accommodate him and cover for his weaknesses and we can do the same with Bruno. Yeah it means we might not become the best passing/control machine but that might be a weakness as well.
For instance if we only played one of them and the stats for arguments sake are like below -
Eriksen 4 goals and 3 assists good defensive positioning but low work rate
Bruno might get 10 goals and 6 assists, bad positioning but high work rate
So would that translate to more points with Eriksen or with Bruno? Who knows. In a certain team with 20 plus forwards we might be better off with Eriksen. But with our team we need goals and assists so Bruno is a necessity and we need to adapt to his erratic passing to get the goals and assists.
He's not surviving Ten Hag. I give it a month before he's dropped
I am sure people have already mentioned this but Bruno should be taken off the pitch as soon as Ronaldo is brought on it. He just tries unrealistic balls to Ronaldo as soon as he is on the pitch even if it is last minute. Could have cost us in both matches.
There’s a much better, permanent solution to that problem.
Contrary to Caf's belief I think Ten Hag likes players like him. Yeah he has been erratic in posession but I believe Ten Hag can work on it.