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Where has this long busting energy come from?
It is like he has been using the Scouse inhalers!
It is like he has been using the Scouse inhalers!
Cannot criticize him at all.
We could line up with Sabitzer - Casemiro - Fred or we could play Sancho at #10. An in form Bruno is obviously not going to be dropped, but I thought tonight was evidence that he's got nothing in the tank.
We won't. It's annoying.
It shows how pivotal ETH thinks he is. And i agree. There isn't someone in the squad who can really replace him.
Eriksen can play there. He's injured, and is our starter for a deeper role.It shows how pivotal ETH thinks he is. And i agree. There isn't someone in the squad who can really replace him.
If ETH doesn't rest him last match I don't think he'd rest him against Betis. Southampton maybe.Could we rest him against Betis? Or against Southampton?
Came alive towards the end but up until then he was a bit rubbish.
Don't quite understand why he has to start every game and even then, why he has to play 90 mins.
Yeah but making an assessment llke that without any context is poorer too. Just check the number of minutes played by the guy.easy. he was poor
Where has this long busting energy come from?
It is like he has been using the Scouse inhalers!
Yeah but making an assessment llke that without any context is poorer too. Just check the number of minutes played by the guy.
And how does that exclude him from criticism? (“Can’t criticise him at all”)
He likely wouldn’t be getting selected if he didn’t say he was OK to play. Yes, yes, great durability/stamina, hero, etc, but he was detrimental yesterday
Some people still don’t understand just how important he is to how ETH has us set up to play. We are infinitely more dangerous with Bruno playing as the 10. Honestly the only player in the squad who effortlessly takes the ball on the half turn. Crucial for our transition play and off the ball press.Because we’re horrible when he doesn’t play, and he ends up getting pulled off the bench to save the day regardless.
No self respecting player who is fit to a certain point will ever say "nah, I don't wanna play tonight". You cannot expect good performances from a player if you play him week in week out, specially one with a high intensity game like his, being reasonable in terms of expectation isn't a bad thing. We're lucky he hasn't suffered any injuries so farAnd how does that exclude him from criticism? (“Can’t criticise him at all”)
He likely wouldn’t be getting selected if he didn’t say he was OK to play. Yes, yes, great durability/stamina, hero, etc, but he was detrimental yesterday
You've posted essentially the same thing two or three times now, but I'm not sure you get it.
First and foremost it's up to ETH and coaches to decide the team, not Bruno. Not sure why you're blaming him for making himself available when he is physically capable of getting on the pitch.
His tiredness is clearly a mental fatigue as a result of playing almost every minute of every single game for the past 3 consecutive seasons. Every other player in our squad has been rotated over the past two months except for him, which shows how indispensable he is. (In my opinion we could've started Sabitzer, Casemiro and Weghorst #10 yesterday.
No self respecting player who is fit to a certain point will ever say "nah, I don't wanna play tonight". You cannot expect good performances from a player if you play him week in week out, specially one with a high intensity game like his, being reasonable in terms of expectation isn't a bad thing. We're lucky he hasn't suffered any injuries so far
I don’t know how many people here have played team sports at a competitive level, I’d hazard a guess a fair few, I have - in two sports - this is one of them things that sounds cool on the internet but it’s not reflective of what I’ve seen happening multiple times. Maybe not at “I don’t wanna play tonight” level, but that’s not what I was saying, though I get exaggeration is often used to move goalposts.
Ultimately though, Bruno was poor. And that’s a reasonable non-combative assessment. All this “can’t criticize him at all” framing of things is…come on man
I said I can't criticize him, that's my opinion. Not sure why it bothers you that much. Do whatever you want. (Your part about playing at competitive level, I mean really ? )I don’t know how many people here have played team sports at a competitive level, I’d hazard a guess a fair few, I have - in two sports - this is one of them things that sounds cool on the internet but it’s not reflective of what I’ve seen happening multiple times. Maybe not at “I don’t wanna play tonight” level, but that’s not what I was saying, though I get exaggeration is often used to move goalposts.
Ultimately though, Bruno was poor. And that’s a reasonable non-combative assessment. All this “can’t criticize him at all” framing of things is…come on man
I said I can't criticize him, that's my opinion. Not sure why it bothers you that much. Do whatever you want. (Your part about playing at competitive level, I mean really ? )
It's not a huge thing at all. My comment did bother though in a way otherwise you wouldn't have even noticed it Of course Bruno wasn't great but he gets a pass for last night, the essential is elsewhereI mostly find the notion of not being able to criticize a player because he plays a lot, silly. That’s why my initial reply was “easy. he was poor”, which again, to me is a fairly reasonable and non-combative assessment. In saying so, I then got a bunch of replies about the amount of games etc etc. Bruno is available for those games - he’s assessed by what he produces (performance wise, not numbers). I then remarked on my anecdotal experience in team sports that team selection isn’t made in a vacuum without consideration or consultation with players, especially when speaking about their physical condition. I’ve levied criticisms at EtH about his team selections before, I just don’t think that absolves a player’s performance from criticism, is all. I don’t think this needs to be a huge thing.
Bruno was poor last night
I don’t know how many people here have played team sports at a competitive level, I’d hazard a guess a fair few, I have - in two sports - this is one of them things that sounds cool on the internet but it’s not reflective of what I’ve seen happening multiple times. Maybe not at “I don’t wanna play tonight” level, but that’s not what I was saying, though I get exaggeration is often used to move goalposts.
Ultimately though, Bruno was poor. And that’s a reasonable non-combative assessment. All this “can’t criticize him at all” framing of things is…come on man
No, I get it. He was poor. You guys are the ones taking Herculean steps to avoid saying he was poor. Bruno was poor. It’s OK. There’s no need to wrestle against it.
I didn’t “blame” him for being selected. Yes, the coaching staff decides on the team, but they won’t pick a player that says he’s exhausted and could do with a rest. Especially one that’s got the mileage he has, he’s being picked because he’s saying he’s good to go. Admirable, I guess, until it starts having a detrimental effect, which it did.
Bruno was poor.
Unless your competitive sport was Chess and you had a headache, what you say is absolutely not true and does not apply to football. And you think that Bruno was detrimental to the team on Wednesday, despite assisting via a corner and playing the full 90 (often out of position) in a game we won 3-1? OK bro, just say you hate him.
If you said, "Bruno didn't play to his usual insane standards" then I'd agree you, whilst we both conveniently forget it's his 20th consecutive game in 6 weeks.