Bruno is a genius. If you don’t understand that he is one of the best players/creators in the world then you don’t understand football.
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So you want to use our best player for the last couple of years as a “super sub impact player”? Just no. Even on off nights he can create something and out in the numbers. You don’t relegate your best player to a super sub mate
Much better. Played more simple passes, and tried the longer passes when there was more opening and space to do so. Was the much needed link from midfield and forward that was missing from last few games. He should play like this more often.
you clearly have no idea of the point of the post, but yeah use the smiley to prove your point, I will do that tooJesus Christ some absolute garbage crawling out of the bins. I love Pogba but Bruno is twice the player. Bruno walks into every top team in world football, Pogba doesn’t, because unlike Pogba, Bruno has the attitude to match his ability. This narrative that somehow Pogba is hard done by and Bruno gets away with it is fecking Nonsense but I’d expect nothing less on this forum these days
Develop Ronaldo as a CB next to Vidic and he will do great there too, he would learn the trade, he's an exceptional talent, great leap, ball playing abilities, he would read the game well rather sweep around like Ferdinand than being into crunching tackles like Vidic, that's why he would have his colleague for. But ultimately you wouldn't use him to his full potential. Now apply the (hyperbolic) analogy of Bruno and Pogba to this and give it a thought. If you still don't get it forget about it and never reply to me. Ta
Is it me or do people think Bruno is going to go up another level?
We all know what he can do with the ball, we have all said he needs to relax.
Not anymore, his pressing style will be very influential now, together with being coached how to do it, I am looking forward to this.
We all know what he can do with the ball, we have all said he needs to relax.
Not anymore, his pressing style will be very influential now, together with being coached how to do it, I am looking forward to this.
I feel like he was almost afraid to lose his impressive assists and goals ratio, ended up losing the ball more frequently trying to force things to happen. But then again he was the sole creator in the team last season. But yes he needs to be coached, top mentality, has the ability but even him need guidance. They all need it, its a team game.
I do. I’ve been thinking about this today and it sounds like Ragnick’s style is perfect for Bruno.
Going by Rangnick's videos, he wants team to press and wants vertical passes. Bruno should be good player for his style of play.
Too much dependency on one player. Our Single Point Of Failure.
The best at what he does. Donny van de beek doesn’t compete in a 10 role. Donny should be playing in behind him. Simple.
At this rate if Bebe was still here even he would improve under Ralf on here
Individual brilliance
Ole went as Bruno's form did.
Pochettino would have been here in 2020 had we not signed him when we did. Not many signings have upgraded a team quite like that one. From Andreas to Bruno.
He's a great player but so was Coutinho. Question is does he fit. He needs to play deeper or my preference is to play him higher in the 9 like Firmino. Can he do it? I have no idea. Every time I see him deeper it doesn't seem to work.
He came on against Villareal and played deeper and created loads of chances. I dont get the comparisons to Coutinho though? He played LW and cut in, Bruno is more of a CAM.
You started off your previous post by saying "it's shocking he's so adored here". Let's think about that statement alone for a second... 1) he's our best player. 2) he's been the most productive player in the league since he arrived. 3) he has carried us in a way that Pogba simply hasn't gotten close to. If you want to start a decent post maybe don't start it with a stupid statement. You are asking for Bruno to be benched which again is madness, he's our best player even if he hasn't been in great form this season. Why not instead of wanting him dropped, want to find ways to better utilise his talents (ironically just what you are doing for Pogba)?you clearly have no idea of the point of the post, but yeah use the smiley to prove your point, I will do that too
Develop Ronaldo as a CB next to Vidic and he will do great there too, he would learn the trade, he's an exceptional talent, great leap, ball playing abilities, he would read the game well rather sweep around like Ferdinand than being into crunching tackles like Vidic, that's why he would have his colleague for. But ultimately you wouldn't use him to his full potential. Now apply the (hyperbolic) analogy of Bruno and Pogba to this and give it a thought. If you still don't get it forget about it and never reply to me. Ta
You then went off on some rant about how we build around Bruno rather than Pogba and play him out of position which is clearly nonsense. Pogba has played all positions and all roles for us and the only constant is that he's inconsistent in all of them. This narrative that we need to do x to get the best out of Pogba is tiresome, he's a great player when on song, but he's inconsistent and doesn't deserve the team to cater to him, unlike Bruno who has proven he delivers.
As for your most recent post, it makes no sense and I don't have a fecking clue what you are talking about, Ronaldo CB, wtf are you on about
Nah Coutinho was always overrated and it was clear he would flop at Barca. Bruno is nothing like him and is a much superior player with far better vision and much higher work rate. No doubt at all he will adapt well to a proper manager/system, he's simply too good not to.
Yeah Bruno has been productive but honestly I can’t get my head around the notion that he isn’t inconsistent, he’s been pretty consistently poor since January which is 11 months. There’s no way Pogba gets away with the amount of poor games Bruno has had in that period and still gets talked about like Cantona or Ronaldo 08, who actually carried us to something worthwhile. It’s bizarre.You started off your previous post by saying "it's shocking he's so adored here". Let's think about that statement alone for a second... 1) he's our best player. 2) he's been the most productive player in the league since he arrived. 3) he has carried us in a way that Pogba simply hasn't gotten close to. If you want to start a decent post maybe don't start it with a stupid statement. You are asking for Bruno to be benched which again is madness, he's our best player even if he hasn't been in great form this season. Why not instead of wanting him dropped, want to find ways to better utilise his talents (ironically just what you are doing for Pogba)?
You then went off on some rant about how we build around Bruno rather than Pogba and play him out of position which is clearly nonsense. Pogba has played all positions and all roles for us and the only constant is that he's inconsistent in all of them. This narrative that we need to do x to get the best out of Pogba is tiresome, he's a great player when on song, but he's inconsistent and doesn't deserve the team to cater to him, unlike Bruno who has proven he delivers.
As for your most recent post, it makes no sense and I don't have a fecking clue what you are talking about, Ronaldo CB, wtf are you on about
I am not trying to compare them stylistically. Im just saying you can be a great player and not fit the system. See PSG with their 3 great forwards. And Coutinho was a great player. Passing, Dribbling, Assists, Goals he had everything and everyone was saying he was better/on par with the other top players - De Bruyne, Ozil etc. He has been forgotten because he didnt fit the new systems. Bruno is a great player but he also needs to adapt. At his best he is a free roaming, high risk number 10. Can he work in a highly functional press. Would he work at Liverpool? What about City? Who knows but one thing for certain is that is he went their he would only be a sucess if he changed his game.
For us? Or just in the history of the CL? 8 seems kind of low
James Milner holds the record. What a player
Does he fit? So you think this the weak link in the team? The player who has the most g/a and chances created for the team?
Before his position is discussed, there are 10 other positions to be discussed. You don’t just go to your best player and ask if he fits. My opinion though.
There has been a drop in his form, I agree. But it’s a team’s drop in form, massive drop. The main issue is that the 2 playing behind him (McFred) provide nothing from an attacking perspective (one can also argue about what they provide defensively). I really believe playing VDB instead of Mctominay would make a huge difference. We’d then have a link between the lines, a link that is non-existent at the moment. He’s then won’t need to drop deep.
He will play the Sabitzer role if we go like for like?
Statman Dave video was interesting, as per him it will be McFred with Bruno and Sancho as other 2. Against weaker opponents Bruno as one of the CM.
Even when he is poor though he still manages to produce something more often than not.
Bruno is the first name on the team sheet...then others follow
Has he stopped sulking yet?
With Rangnick coming, in the term Raumdeuter springs to mind.
I felt that not starting and coming off the bench did him some good in a way
I don’t think that’s true. He’s been mostly good as his stats will show. He’s played in a really poor, really inconsistent Utd side and there’s not a player on world football who can rise above that. To say he’s been consistently poor isn’t true though, he’s had some excellent games. I just don’t see how you can say with a straight face that Bruno and Pogba have had a similar impact over the same timescale. I genuinely adore Pogba, I’ve fought his corner for years but even I’ve realised he Is a very hard man to carry. Who would you say has been better/more consistent than Bruno over the same period?
Since January Pogba has performed to a far higher standard consistently. It isn’t even close. I agree on the side but Pogba has never been allowed to have excuses. It’s been on him alone. Since January Pogba has won us games individually and was the reason we went top of the league. Came on and changed the game in the EL against Milan away etc but the minute he has some poor performances it’s back to the usual narrative. Bruno has been poor week in week out with some good performances entwined. Pogba does not get away with that.
I agree the narratives around Pogba are annoying and often frustrating but I don’t think Pogba has been better during that period. If for no other reason than Bruno is always available, he’s always working hard, he’s always giving his all, something I just don’t think Pogba has always shown in a Utd shirt. Pogba has been quite injury prone the last two years and that just adds to him being abit unreliable in comparison. Where I disagree though is Pogba not having excuses, he’s gets loads of undue stick, but he also gets loads of undue excuses. “Pogba needs x player alongside him to play well”, “Pogba needs to play in x position”, “Pogba needs to play with a kante” etc… Hes constantly had people scrambling (myself included) for why he hasn’t performed. Bruno came into this Utd side, in a period of turmoil and has been arguably the best player in the league. Pogba just doesn’t come close to that for me.
Why is ability the be all and end all.. Thats been our problem for years. Keeping players that dont work for years and years and years - Pogba, Lingard etc. for example. Both great players. Lingard not at same level as Pogba but as proved at West Ham he is a pretty good player. Other players apart from Coutinho that struggle in a system are Ozil, the 3 front players at PSG etc. You can go on and on. I never at any point said he wasnt a good player. One of our best players. My point is that doesnt matter. The team comes before the individual. Always. Even under Sir Alex. If we want to compete with the teams at the level of City, Liverpool, Chelsea etc then you cannot carry a square peg in a round hole. I thought thats why everyone was excited by Ragnerick. He should implement a system and put players in that fit the system. Anyone else has to do one. That means Pogba, Ronaldo, Bruno might and I say might have to go. Probably our best players. Yes. But the sht isnt working and it hasnt for 6 years. Why? Because we just get in top players but forget about fitting the system.
Now I never said Bruno will have to go. I just dont know. But what I cant see him doing is continuing with his free roaming, high risk number 10 role. He will have to adapt.
I think he could explode numbers wise again when Ragnick gets us playing his style. The high press and direct football is exactly what he’s all about.
Pogba has played in roles that dont suit his strengths (double pivot) and without a player to compliment him (Rio/Vidic) in a team that has always struggled. Generally speaking he doesn’t get allowances even from those who claim to support him.
When Bruno first came in he was superb in that 6 week period, then post lockdown the team really came together. Statistically he was great until January but his performances, stats and our amounts of penalties have dried up massively since. You’re making a massive argument if you’re saying he’s been the best player in the league. We haven’t come close to winning anything. He’s been poor whenever we have had chances (semi finals, final EL, when we went top of the league) and in most games against our biggest rivals. This doesn’t equal anything like the best player in the league for me, nor do his baseline performances since January. Stats like chances created don’t change my mind as there are some very dodgy candidates on the list also. I use my eyes and he’s been poor since January. That the media in general have only just twigged purely highlights the positive regard around Bruno.
I fully expect him to benefit from Ragnick and kick on again, but we will have to agree to disagree on his form in 2021. It’s been poor/abysmal more than it’s been good when I look back game to game.
Side note but I take objection with Coutinho being overrated. Kid was a progidy/wonder kid from young ange and rated very high across Europe. Footballers can flop for many reasons but there's a reason clubs like Inter Liverpool and Barca have been into him.
I agree that Bruno has a good chance to succeed due to his high work rate but to your point he does have to adjust. The way he was currently playing was just not gonna last. My only concern with Bruno is his wasteful short passes (that aren't even high risk) but I hope that was tactics more than Bruno is
Exactly.
Agree with this. He can be inconsistent in games, brilliant plays to missplaced easy passes. But he's always managing to create something.
It's the sign of a great player, even though I find myself resisting calling Bruno that for some reason, maybe because of the many passes he does where I just scratch my head wondering why the hell he would think that pass was going through, but you can't deny his output and impact on winning since he's come here, so he is a great player.
And most teams who have a great player automatically become dependent of said player, it's a failure of many teams.
If he manages (like last game vs Villareal) to find a good balance between creativity and keeping possession, he can become one the best players in the world easily for me.
The ceiling is very high but he needs to be put under pressure and not let loose all over the pitch doing whatever he feels like.
The ceiling is very high but he needs to be put under pressure and not let loose all over the pitch doing whatever he feels like.
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