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2020-21 Performances


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He still created 2 decent chances for our forwards in the first half. And, this is the problem with having to rely on young forwards. Both made wrong choices and here we were.

If we got a goal in first half from those, it would have been much easier for us.
Rashford isn't young. He's twenty-three. A player should be in his prime years at 23.
 
Rashford isn't young. He's twenty-three. A player should be in his prime years at 23.
23 is prime years now? Since when? So by 27 is he ready to be put out to pasture..... I agree he should by now have enough 1st team experience to have corrected some of the less desirable traits in his game but he's very much still a young man.
 
23 is prime years now? Since when? So by 27 is he ready to be put out to pasture..... I agree he should by now have enough 1st team experience to have corrected some of the less desirable traits in his game but he's very much still a young man.
I actually heard that Greenwood is getting too old.
 
This forum's obsession with wanting to slaughter our best player is really fecking weird. Especially given what we've been subjected to over the last 8 years.
If he played for Liverpool they would wank themselves silly over him.
 
Other than the freekick he almost scored (and the penalty he did score), his set pieces were terrible. He really needs to be sitting on the edge of the box instead of taking the corners.
He provided the corner for our 2nd goal. Almost got a goal from free kick. Another set piece went everyone thru and Harry could and should have the end of it in front of the goal.

I mean he is no Beckham. A guy can do only so much with set pieces. Even Telles did not have any good set pieces except for his first game.

I think people are just expecting too much that even prime Messi would struggle in the situation we are in.
 
I was really frustrated with him today. Not at his usual level. Scored a pen and hit the bar, but delivery was often pretty poor .
Could have been sent off early on for stupidity.
He tries though which is always good and fight in games.
 
I thought he was very poor, but Leipizig did a good job on him, didn't allow him on the half turn and doubled up on him forcing him into tight areas with 2-3 men on him. It happens, and we can't be solely reliant on him. If Bruno has a bad game, we need others to step up.
 
23 is prime years now? Since when? So by 27 is he ready to be put out to pasture..... I agree he should by now have enough 1st team experience to have corrected some of the less desirable traits in his game but he's very much still a young man.
No Your prime years are multiple years. If you are a top-class player, you should in your prime by 23. I'll try not to name too many players but Giggs, Rooney, Beckham, Scholes, Keane. Don't confuse it with their peak year. I'd players prime is in the range of 22-30. Those physically gifted probably start younger (Giggs, Rooney, Ronaldo). If you're a smart player and remain healthy, it probably carries on longer. If you have both then you are a Messi, Ronaldo or a Zlatan.
 
23 is prime years now? Since when? So by 27 is he ready to be put out to pasture..... I agree he should by now have enough 1st team experience to have corrected some of the less desirable traits in his game but he's very much still a young man.

I thought this was ridiculous statement at first but I think Scholes, Beckham, Giggs etc won the CL before they turned 25.
 
Rashford isn't young. He's twenty-three. A player should be in his prime years at 23.
Just want to point out that this is total bollocks, 26 onward is entering your mature prime years. Trying to act like Rashford isn't still raw at 23 and is a complete player is utter nonsense. To tie it in not being off topic, he has the best chemistry with Rashford imo.
 
Just want to point out that this is total bollocks, 26 onward is entering your mature prime years. Trying to act like Rashford isn't still raw at 23 and is a complete player is utter nonsense. To tie it in not being off topic, he has the best chemistry with Rashford imo.
Not to hijack the thread further. But shouldn't it matter when you came on to the first team. Rather than the actual age now.
I mean tomorrow if we buy Sancho or Mbappe or Haaland, we would expect them to hit the ground running and be consistent. Not wait for another 6 years before they show something.
 
He doesn't deserve to play in EL again. Feel for him.
I felt heartbroken for him when I saw his reaction to their third goal... just let down by the rest of the team. He deserves to be in the highest-level competitions competing for them for sure. He's one of the worlds greatest players easily.
 
I felt heartbroken for him when I saw his reaction to their third goal... just let down by the rest of the team. He deserves to be in the highest-level competitions competing for them for sure. He's one of the worlds greatest players easily.

Calm down, he was playing for Sporting less than 12 months ago. They finished behind LASK in their Europa group, and went out in the next stage. Not saying he doesn’t deserve to be playing in the Champions League, but it’s not like he moved from somewhere like Bayern to join us.
 
Calm down, he was playing for Sporting less than 12 months ago. They finished behind LASK in their Europa group, and went out in the next stage. Not saying he doesn’t deserve to be playing in the Champions League, but it’s not like he moved from somewhere like Bayern to join us.
Where he came from is irrelevant.
 
He gave at least 3 clear chances to Rashford and Greenwood to score, except they need minimum 10-15 to score one and against weaker opposition. Apart from that, almost scored a free kick, scored the pen and delivered some set pieces and tested the keeper on 2, 3 occasions. That's good enough. He's not the one that conceded 3 goals. If you have a quality and strong defence, you don't concede those goals and thus one single goal wins you the match.
 
He wasn't at his best against Leipzig and he still managed to create some good chances. What I'm really afraid of is that he will get fatigued and eventually injured since poor guy can't get some rest cause we are completely dependent on him. He deserves much better than Europa league and breaking his back while carrying the whole team to another comeback week after week.
 
He wasn't at his best against Leipzig and he still managed to create some good chances. What I'm really afraid of is that he will get fatigued and eventually injured since poor guy can't get some rest cause we are completely dependent on him. He deserves much better than Europa league and breaking his back while carrying the whole team to another comeback week after week.

I am a big fan of his. But why does he ‘deserve’ better? Where was he before United?

it’s a strange trend I see, where fans seem to want players to go elsewhere because it’s ‘best for them’, or they ‘deserve’ better.
 
Is he overrated? Well, some parts of his game are quite average and he's been in questionable form for a while now, but who cares? Every single game he creates multiple chances out of nothing. That's what he's here to do and what makes him head and shoulders our best player. A player who can have a bad game and still consistently produce is a rare thing. If that makes him overrated then i hope we buy more players like that.

He reminds me so much of Cantona, who was never the best at any single thing and often did very little in a match other than strut about losing the ball, all until he created the game winning goal.
 
It's not good enough, I know it , everyone knows it and yet 7 years after Fergie has left I'm still here reading 'it's not good enough, we must try harder' messages on social media.

So bloody try harder then.

If the hardest you lot are trying still results in elimination from the CL group stage then we have a massive problem.
 
Is he overrated? Well, some parts of his game are quite average and he's been in questionable form for a while now, but who cares? Every single game he creates multiple chances out of nothing. That's what he's here to do and what makes him head and shoulders our best player. A player who can have a bad game and still consistently produce is a rare thing. If that makes him overrated then i hope we buy more players like that.

He reminds me so much of Cantona, who was never the best at any single thing and often did very little in a match other than strut about losing the ball, all until he created the game winning goal.
He's certainly unique - there isn't many players around like him that's for sure.

It is odd how he can go from doing some frankly awful passes or balloons a shot or cross way off the mark, then in the next passage of play hit a perfectly weighted through ball or smash a ball into the top corner.

For me though as long as he delivers regularly I don't care if he messes a few things up trying. I'd much rather have that than somebody like Lingard who "looked busy" but never actually did anything.
 
You start the knockoff game to move further in the CL full of ambition and after couple minutes you are 2:0 behind due to slapstick defending.... then 3:0 due to a brainf*rt.

And the guys you have to play with to get back into the game are mctominay, awb, shaw, matic...

What do people here expect? That he plays a 1:2 with himself? Digging the club ainglehandely out of the deep hole of ten layers of sh*t that the lack of coaching and the defense put us in? It's crazy he didnt give up after the 3:0.
With those 3 defensive brainfarts even Ronaldo and messi together would have struggled to dig us out.


I thought he was very poor, but Leipizig did a good job on him, didn't allow him on the half turn and doubled up on him forcing him into tight areas with 2-3 men on him. It happens, and we can't be solely reliant on him. If Bruno has a bad game, we need others to step up.
I dont think we can blame bruno when Leipzig man Mark's him with 2 players and foul him everytime he could create sth. It's on the other players to utilize the space that bruno provides by attracting the double team.

I am a big fan of his. But why does he ‘deserve’ better? Where was he before United?

it’s a strange trend I see, where fans seem to want players to go elsewhere because it’s ‘best for them’, or they ‘deserve’ better.
Because right now we are a joke. Comical lineup and criminal defensive errors.
It's like seeing a very talented kid growing up in a rough area you just feel with the right support he could become a great one but fear he might just not realize his talents.

Should be given the captains arm band for the rest of the season.
100%. He should rip into the defense for letting the club down.
 
I think people of this generation will be getting similar vibes that Cantona brought to that team. They've both improved what was a good solid team that needed that bit of magic. Bruno is delivering that in spades.

He definitely has an Aura too. You could tell instantly West Ham were cautious about pressing our midfield as he's so good at finding space - just look at the run he made for Pogba's goal, everybody was asleep to that kick expecting it to go out, but he just thought nope i'm getting there anyway.

Annoying that Rashford didn't take the chance from his through ball, it would have been replayed over and over again.

That's one of my fav pieces of football this season. The touch to turn away and then play the perfectly weighted through ball.... Wow.
 
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KDB has other few players who are on the same wavelength as him, in Silva x 2, Gundogan, or Mahrez and Sterling (to some extent). It makes his job much much easier.

Bruno though... Rashford maybe, albeit the later is more of an outlet instead of partner.
 
Again I find his performances somewhere in the inbetween. Does incredible things or passes every game. But he also does terrible things in games and I hate this habit he has of leaving midfield ,Then not recognising they are struggling and he needs to step in there and help out.Few times this season he has done that.

For me I’m not convinced he is like the absolute elite level of player like a KDB, Silva, Iniesta and the likes but he’s better than anything else we have. I really think he can go up a few gears if he just at times thinks about what he is doing and takes more care but then does that take away from all the oppertunites he does create trying unconventional things.

Hes more erratic than the likes of KDB and Silva, who both play more safe where as Bruno is constantly high risk, high reward.

It means he make some passes and moves that looks utterly daft, but his numbers speak for themselves and him having a "quiet game" is simply not possible
 
Is the fear now, that you could lose him to a Barca or Madrid in the summer?
 
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