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2020-21 Performances


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Keane was technically superior to Scholes, without question.

He was a much better progressive passer; he was constantly breaking the lines way ahead of his time - to do it in 90’s 4-4-2 football was almost unique. Scholes’ passing was generally sideways or long diagonals to the wing - Rooney called Keane the best passer he played with, and it’s obvious why. He also carried the ball better than Scholes.
What on earth did I just read.
 
It’s not madness at all. KDB registered the most possession loses in Europe’s top 5 leagues in 2018. Eriksen was number 2. TAA lost possession on average 30 times a game last season. 40 possession losses is at the higher end but Bruno registers 2nd for key pass per game in the PL this season (behind KDB) and joint 2nd on through balls in the PL this season (behind Salah).

Bruno has a very low bottom level though. There was a video of one of his last performances for Sporting before he signed and it was seriously bad. This performance doesn’t surprise me.

Look who you comparing us to. These are my thoughts on the matter:

the amount of balls Bruno just gives the opposition. you can get away with that in a decent team, but here, it's criminal
 
Can't wait for him to be moved on.

Haven't liked him since he arrived, fake player who covers up his deficiencies by scoring and assisting.

Wind ya neck in and change the title in the Borat thread to out now.
 
Regressing under Ole. Simply because he came in as the unknown, now teams know about him and mark him out of the game.

Ole has no plan at all. Can’t accommodate any of our good players. Expects them to go out and play without clear direction.
 
Looking increasingly like he is regressing into the player the underlying metrics have suggested for a while. Without penalties, there’s little output to justify the incredible waste in his use of the ball. Too many overhit or inaccurate long passes, too many incorrect decisions, and frankly too many sloppy balls.

People scoffed at criticisms of Bruno’s game weeks’ ago, but they are all there for people to see when you aren’t winning. He needs a strong manager to keep him disciplined and focussed on the pitch.
 
I feel like hes not trying anymore...almost like he's given up playing for Ole
 
Agree with others who think his head's gone with the direction of the team.

That isn't a good thing and he should be giving everything but I also feel like a proper manager could get so much out of him. More so than I ever felt like that with Pogba. Bruno can be a proper fecking talismanic figure.
 
Simply not good enough. Take away the penalties and he is found wanting. Unpopular opinion but I've always thought him massively overrated. Big fish in a small pond type character.
 
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I don't think "his heads gone" or anything like that, but he's similar to Rooney in his lack of tactical discipline and playing for too many "moments". Towards the end of the game, he was basically sitting up against the opposition CB's like he was a striker, and it meant we had to watch countless horizontal passes because we had no progressive passing or outlet through the middle besides Martial going out and drawing fouls. I like Bruno, and think he's a very useful player, but he has to have a manager that beats it into him that he's a fecking midfielder, not a striker, and without him providing some movement in between our attack and defense he's useless.
 
He’s been largely awful for ages now, even stretching to the back end of last season, but has masked this with a ludicrous amount of pens (credit to him for putting them away, of course).

More worrying though is that his intensity levels and talismanic nature seem to have dwindled. Can’t help but feel that the pressure of having to do so much himself due to the lack of quality around him is starting to drain him mentally. Having said that, his current level of performance is still unacceptable.
 
His body language tonight was a massive red flag for me. I never seen him so dejected and his work-rate in the middle of the pitch was non-existent.

I think he's lost trust in the manager also and is showing it on the pitch
 
Right now i'm not sure if his body is just very tired or he has really a problem with Solskjaer.

His body language tonight was a massive red flag for me. I never seen him so dejected and his work-rate in the middle of the pitch was non-existent.

I think he's lost trust in the manager also and is showing it on the pitch

It gets real weird real fast when you start getting more and more sure that you'd be better at your boss's job than (s)he is.
 
His body language tonight was a massive red flag for me. I never seen him so dejected and his work-rate in the middle of the pitch was non-existent.

I think he's lost trust in the manager also and is showing it on the pitch
Plus being surrounded by morons. A lot of times I see him pass it through good positions and theres no one there to get it. Like Shaw in that arsenal match. Bruno did a back wheel pass straight through the defence on the wing, thinking shaw is going to cut in to attack. Instead shaw just stops running halfway and bruno looks pissed.
 
Very Rooney-esque. At least the washed up version.
maybe washed-up version, Rooney knew how to dominate a game with his passing and energy, on his good day he was a little like Scholes, Fernandes is more just a magic-moments player, ive watched a few games of Sporting before transfer - he was similar there, a lot of missplaced passes and looking for an assist for all cost. Im not saying its bad, of course.
 
We all know he's a massive risk taker, but he's definitely more composed and smart on the ball for Portugal.

Don't see why he can't do that here.

His performances are getting much, much worse, so something has got to give.
So is his positioning. At one point, I saw him as the second furthest player back at RB, the next he was alongside Maguire and Matic, the next moment I saw him ahead of Martial.

I can't see how this isn't being addressed.
 
"But the Daily Mail claims United scouts warned that Fernandes, 24, gives the ball away too often to be used in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's system".

"He managed a lowly 75.1 per cent pass completion ratio last season - some way behind Paul Pogba's 82.8 per cent success rate".

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...couts-bruno-fernandes-transfer-news-sporting/

Scouts were correct but were laughed at. We have the same problem at the club since Fergie retired which is that the head coach is given too much power.

I hope he improves but he's always been a player that loses the ball too many times for my liking.
 
He is running all over the pitch recently which is a big worry. Looks like he has taken entire responsibility of the team on his shoulder. Defend - he is there, receive the ball in front of defense - he is there, final third - he is there, left right - he is there, run in the box - he is there. As a result he is not producing 8/10 performance in any position.
 
"But the Daily Mail claims United scouts warned that Fernandes, 24, gives the ball away too often to be used in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's system".

"He managed a lowly 75.1 per cent pass completion ratio last season - some way behind Paul Pogba's 82.8 per cent success rate".

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...couts-bruno-fernandes-transfer-news-sporting/

Scouts were correct but were laughed at. We have the same problem at the club since Fergie retired which is that the head coach is given too much power.

I hope he improves but he's always been a player that loses the ball too many times for my liking.

Agreed - people keep saying Ole hasn’t been backed when the club has backed him by spending 130m for both Maguire and AWB.

We didn’t spend our budget wisely, it was always not going to be possible to buy Sancho at 120m when we have other priority areas needed strengthening too. And personally I'm glad we didn't spend this much on him as this will have an affect for our next manager's transfer funds.

I would love to know what our scouts have recommended as opposed to Ole's signings since he arrived.
 
His body language tonight was a massive red flag for me. I never seen him so dejected and his work-rate in the middle of the pitch was non-existent.

I think he's lost trust in the manager also and is showing it on the pitch

Couldn't agree more. I was actually shocked to see him play like that yesterday!
 
Agreed - people keep saying Ole hasn’t been backed when the club has backed him by spending 130m for both Maguire and AWB.

We didn’t spend our budget wisely, it was always not going to be possible to buy Sancho at 120m when we have other priority areas needed strengthening too. And personally I'm glad we didn't spend this much on him as this will have an affect for our next manager's transfer funds.

I would love to know what our scouts have recommended as opposed to Ole's signings since he arrived.
Our scouts have likely recommended numerous players but unless 5 scouts veto the manager under the current process then the signing will go ahead on the managers say so according to Ole himself. And it was reported that our scouts had reports on 100s of prospective fullbacks but our management couldn't look past AWB who was never very good in offensive transition. And it didn't make sense to sign him because Ole spoke about playing a specific brand of football which neither AWB or Maguire fitted into IMO.
 
Our scouts have likely recommended numerous players but unless 5 scouts veto the manager under the current process then the signing will go ahead on the managers say so according to Ole himself. And it was reported that our scouts had reports on 100s of prospective fullbacks but our management couldn't look past AWB who was never very good in offensive transition. And it didn't make sense to sign him because Ole spoke about playing a specific brand of football which neither AWB or Maguire fitted into IMO.

Yes I remember that quote from Ole.

We seriously need to bring in a DoF, or at least bring in a coach that actually plays attacking football but the ones that I would like i.e. Rose, Hasenhüttl already have a DoF in their current clubs so I don't know how they'd fit in our current structure, might be a separate conversation in another thread.
 
Looking increasingly like he is regressing into the player the underlying metrics have suggested for a while. Without penalties, there’s little output to justify the incredible waste in his use of the ball. Too many overhit or inaccurate long passes, too many incorrect decisions, and frankly too many sloppy balls.

People scoffed at criticisms of Bruno’s game weeks’ ago, but they are all there for people to see when you aren’t winning. He needs a strong manager to keep him disciplined and focussed on the pitch.
I was going to write something similar to this but you’ve conveyed the message pretty well. Too many times does he try to force the issue when a simple pass will suffice. It’s what we used to criticize pogba heavily for because he couldn’t match the same output as Bruno. It’s why I always say we can’t use non penalty goals when measuring how effective a player truly is. Bruno has escaped rightful criticism for so long as last season just because he is our designated penalty taker.

Moving forward he needs better discipline and decision making with his passes. I’m sure KDB doesn’t average as low as 75% passing accuracy consistently and still manages a high key passing stat.

Don’t even get me started on Bruno taking silly long shots when there are better players through in goal.
 
It looks like weve broken him or are breaking him. A lot of his enthusiasm seems to be disappearing.

I wouldnt have started him yesterday anyway, but I think not having a set system and style of play is affecting players especially Bruno.
 
Bruno needs to stop wasting possession and have more positional discipline, and that includes contributing more defensively
 
To say Bruno has a low football IQ is extremely insulting to the guy. Those words are reserved for players like Daniel James or Pereira. Also one Roy Keane is equal to two Brunos. Seriously have you lot watched Keane bossing the midfield front to back in his prime?
The 'football IQ' term shouldn't be used at all on here. It's literally used as a synonym for 'not playing well' by people who like to pretend they know wtf they are talking about on some deeper level. When in actuality they know absolutely feck all, other than that United didn't win and that they are very sad and mad about it.

It's hilarious, really.
 
It looks like weve broken him or are breaking him. A lot of his enthusiasm seems to be disappearing.

I wouldnt have started him yesterday anyway, but I think not having a set system and style of play is affecting players especially Bruno.
Bruno was always this player, even at Lisbon. I think that was quite clear. He's going to be a disrupting force. That's a fine line between a positive disruption who makes things happen and a negative one who is very wasteful and upsets the rhythm of the team. You need a strong manager to harness his strengths and keep him disciplined. There's a great player there, but he's never been the finished article. It's the story of so many of our signings. We sign them at a high point and they regress with us.
 
And certain people were trying to get onto me for saying Low IQ player.Another disasterclass today but we arent ready for that conversation
They should be getting after you. It's a stupid term used by people who like to pretend they have a clue. It should be banned on the football areaa of the forum.

Without using that stupid phrase, explain exactly what is wrong with his game and what he can or should change about it.
 
He is actually a horrible passer -- as bad as McTominay and Wan-Bissaka, just with more freedom and a better range. He just passes with reckless abandon like an amateur would, without considering the position of the receiver.

Loose, terrible weight, accuracy, and direction with his short passing. His passes always seem to put the receiver under pressure, and he always seem to be unaware of what's going on around him whenever he receives or is about to receive the ball.

I genuinely can't think of any midfielder with his reputation who has a worse passing game. He is just not supposed to be a midfielder. I feel he is better than his performances lately, but I don't think I will ever warm to him playing in our midfield.

A lot of people point fingers at the likes of McTominay, Fred and AWB as some of the reasons we struggle to control the ball, but I think Fernandes is just another one who is technically, not good enough.
 
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