This dude will be the catalyst to us winning trophies I hope. It's like everything came together when he came into the team. Everything.
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Calm down now. Bruno is brilliant, he's the best midfielder we have right now. But Scholes is probably the best midfielder to ever play for us.
The biggest difference between Bruno and Gerrard is that Bruno is far more of a team player and a true leader. Bruno has made the team better at United both by his own performances and elevating others.
Gerrard was one of the most individual players I've seen. He only influenced games by doing absolutely everything himself. Like a kid who is an early bloomer athletically in an under 12s team.
He was an excellent forward but I don't think a top team can be consistently successful with a midfielder who plays like he did. Liverpool's most successful periods in recent years were when he wasn't in midfield.
Come on man let’s not do this hyperbolic nonsense.
They do tend to be, yeah. But that thing you deem irrelevant is one of the key things that prevented Nani from going on to a team like Madrid or Bayern, and being considered a brilliant player by neutral fans. The volume of mistakes you make while taking risks clearly matters. If you take as many risks while executing more of them and making fewer basic mistakes then you are better. That has tended to separate the very best from the levels below.
You'd have hated Cantona. He was also wasteful and inconsistent, and nobody cared because he made things happen. Just like Bruno.
No, the period where Nani did something magical every game even when he was playing badly he would have played for any team in the world. The problem is that period only lasted about 18 months. After that when he was playing badly he wouldn't influence the game at all. I also think our fans at the ground treated him very badly, always groaning when he touched the ball, it must have affected his confidence.
well... he needs a few more seasons of such stats, let’s wait
Will go down as our best signing since Cristiano Ronaldo rocked up to Old Trafford.
Absolute superstar
Absolute superstar
Bruno may give the ball away, but I rarely notice it in dangerous situations which lead to opposition chances. If it leads to wasting a chance at the other end, I'm less inclined to be bothered knowing that he'll almost undoubtedly create or finish off another chance shortly after. Case in point, the missed pen against Brighton, you still somehow knew he'd still get his goal or assist.
Oh stop it, Bruno is no Cantona.
A better signing than Wayne Rooney you think? That‘s a big claim.
The guy is phenomenal though. Love him.
He would need to have a seriously impressive next 5 or 6 years to justify that ahead of Rooney, De Gea, or Carrick.
His passing % were crap even in Portugal.
It really shows how poor United's transfer activity has been in recent years when the top 3 transfers in the last 17 years include Michael Carrick!!!
I like your post. I don't think Bruno has a problem because his touch isn't as good as others, or that he chooses to control it more exotically than others. I just think that's his style, to try high risk moves because he actually has the technical ability to do that and it will pay off consistently. You simply can't make that work if your technique isn't consistently great. It's very demanding because you will fail, but Bruno does it without fear and has the endurance to make it work. I actually think De Bruyne is a very similar player but he contains himself to the benefit of his team in the context of Pep's tactics, where he just plays a different role. If you swap their roles I highly doubt De Bruyne would elevate because of superior technique, I think he would look similarly sloppy at times.
You could make a claim that it's quality vs quantity but a game is 90 minutes and it's over. So it doesn't matter if you miss 5 important touches if you end up creating 2 goals, or if you played very tidy and created two goals. I haven't seen any limit to Bruno's contribution in the big games, there is no tempo he can't keep up with he is an incredibly dangerous player against any opposition because of his style. He is a player that is hard to contain and he just can't be that without consistently having incredible touches in very important moments. I don't get the oversimplification that it's inconsistent "technical ability". The consistency of his touch is great, that is obvious, but sometimes his adventurous style means he gets ahead of himself and can loose the ball or overcomplicate things in the process. That amounts to inconsistency in moments, but over 90 minutes he is involved in is so many things that the ratio compared to others is still very consistent.
Not even close.
Only if we win the league/ CL.
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse....
Bruno is a better keeper than Schmeichel ever was.
Bruno is a better manager than Alex Ferguson ever was.
Bruno is a better Prime Minister than Boris Johnson ever was. Actually, that may be true.
Think you might be forgetting someone. I’ll give you a clue - your username.
No. Just.......... No.
This thread is garbage at the moment.
Can we revert to some genuine discussion please instead of swinging from extreme to another?
Can we revert to some genuine discussion please instead of swinging from extreme to another?
Why? Carrick was arguably our best and most consistent midfielder throughout the club's most successful ever 6-7 year period of football. Not sure how he can be classed as anything other than a brilliant signing.
I don't get the logic. Are you implying Carrick was not a brilliant transfer? We can do a lot worse than a transfer at that relative level.
most consistent? Absolutely. Best? No Scholes was better 2006-9. Fletcher 08-10. Then there were periods were Giggs was also better. Most people felt like he was the weakest link in 2008 actually but that’s nothing to be ashamed off looking at our starting 11 in that famous night in Moscow
Personally loved watching Carrick play. Elegant and underrated player
I love this guy, world class footballer. Incredible mentality, football brain and skills all combined. If he becomes less error prone, Fernandes can be up there for the best player in the world.
Did you watch Scholes?
We won our last title by bringing him out of retirement.
He controlled games with his passing ability. The definition of linking defence and attack. Bruno would be considered part of the attack, he needs someone to find him to have that kind of influence.
Stat padding wasn't part of Scholes game, nor Keane's. Two of the best CM's in the history of football.
I combined best and most consistent as in, he was our best midfielder over that period. No doubt there were times when others outplayed him. I'd also argue that he in 12/13 was as good, if not better, than any of the others. He was basically a one man midfield.
Love Bruno to bits and got no problem him being the risk taker since he's one of the few players who can create top chances executing his thoughts quickly. Just wonder if he could become a bit more selfish sometimes and have a go at goal himself. He came with a big reputation, scoring from distance and while I realize in the prem theres is way less space to do to, think he should do it more.
Same with Rashford, both have it in them and sometimes overthink that but yeah playmakers have this trait so as long as we score goals weĺl be fine I guess.
Same with Rashford, both have it in them and sometimes overthink that but yeah playmakers have this trait so as long as we score goals weĺl be fine I guess.
Man Utd 0:1 Arsenal
Atrocious performance
He was utterly shocking. Did he even complete a pass ffs?
One blocked shot in the first half (that hit the defenders head), thats all I remember from him
Nothing worse than when you see a player now his head before he goes to chase after the opposition, as if they’re bored of it and can’t be bothered.
Absolutely dreadful performance, should be dropped after that showing.
Absolutely dreadful performance, should be dropped after that showing.
The team looked shocking all round, I can't single him out for anything.
His worst game for us. Even Pogba was better overall
Awful, in fact his form has been worrying for a while. He gets a pass because he tends to pop up with a goal or an assist and it glosses over his overall performance but yeah VDB should be getting a game ahead of him now
He was shite but I still can't believe we actually did the same mistake and subbed him off again ? Even when he's shite he can do something with the ball.
Like the rest of the team, he was dreadful. If the entire team is poor, it's a systematic fault so I can't blame just him.
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