RooneyLegend
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We’re going around in circles because you have this warped idea that you need to sign the Sanchez’s, Di maria’s and Matas of this world is basically the only way of building a top 4 prem squad despite the fact that its happened over and over, even in this money era that a team builds a strong squad without having to buy top players.Not really sure your point any more. You're coming up with things I've never even claimed, such as: "its clear you think money is the be end all and its acceptable to have 1 point over a formerly decimated southampton..." when I never mentioned Southampton.
No point continuing much further. Regardless of their revenue and all that, Liverpool's standing has dropped hugely. In this league (Not the German league; not the Italian league) top players win you titles and close that gap. The proof is in Suarez being the driving force in them almost doing the unthinkable last season.
When you aren't shopping in that market (Liverpool aren't) you're buying hit or miss players like Lallana, Paulinho, Sigurdsson, Coutinho. That is the ceiling for Liverpool. The best they can sign is a "has potential and might come good" The best Arsenal and United can sign is "is already proven as good."
Liverpool's issue is that, despite their revenues etc. they don't pay the wages and they don't attract the top names.
Yes it's possible to close the gap by getting every 'hit or miss' signing spot on, but it's a hard task (which is essentially all I said in the first place.)
I don't care about their history. And I doubt someone like Sanchez would care either. I've given you reasons above why Liverpool (despite intangibles such as 'prestige' and 'history') do not register when it comes to signing the players that make a difference in this league.
We're just going to go in circles it seems.
We ourselves through our glory years didn’t buy these superstars yet through the years we were able to maintain a powerful squad. Arsenal themselves have only bought Sanchez and Ozil(who as you say wouldn’t consider pool an option) that’d have been out of pools reach. These signings are also recent signings, the type arsenal hadn’t made for god knows how long and yet have always had a top 4 squad.
Why do you think that is? That both teams can have the most prem titles and yet not spend money buying superstars? You mention Suarez but forget that when they bought Suarez he was one of these up and coming stars rather than some superstar.
It’s important to pin them against European sides because European football is basically one big pond. Everyone competes for the best players around the world. Arsenal and United have put together very unimpressive squads for the money invested which essentially opened the opportunity for a pool to sneak in a put something together. They pumped the cash in and got no results so far. How many real quality players do we have? And Arsenal? How many of the players in both squads would have thought they were too big for Liverpool before being signed by either club?
It would be a hard task if this was back in the mid to late 00’s where all top 4 squads were filled to the brim with quality but that isn’t the case at the moment. Everyone is under performing in that front hence none of these teams can really do anything effective in Europe. Money is being thrown around and not much is ‘value’ is being found. The clubs in Europe finding that value are actually doing really well and have squads better than that of us and arsenal. Not magic, just great scouting, development and tactics.
This is just poor management coupled with even worse coaching. He’s all over the place in the market and you’re just making some really poor excuses. You say they don’t offer big wages when they’ve just offered a kid 100k a week while they have Sturridge on 150k a week. The prem has wages that la liga, Bundesliga and seria a can only dream about (apart from Barca, madrid and Bayern).