Brentan Rodgers

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BarneyLFC said:
He's also made several that have seen us score goals/win games.

But go on, examples of these other decisions please.
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A few over this season:
Selling our best centre back for dirt cheap in the summer
Preferring Johnson to Manquillo
His handling of the centre back situation - refusing to drop out of form centre backs and failure to coach them properly
Failing to improve how we defend set pieces
Playing Henderson as a deep midfielder, made even worse by partnering him with Gerrard
Resting Sterling against Villa but not against Boro
Playing Gerrard regardless of form

Could go on. He was superb last season but he's been poor so far this time. It's not all his fault, the players are letting him down too, but he deserves criticism.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
A few over this season:
Selling our best centre back for dirt cheap in the summer
Preferring Johnson to Manquillo
His handling of the centre back situation - refusing to drop out of form centre backs and failure to coach them properly
Failing to improve how we defend set pieces
Playing Henderson as a deep midfielder, made even worse by partnering him with Gerrard
Resting Sterling against Villa but not against Boro
Playing Gerrard regardless of form

Could go on. He was superb last season but he's been poor so far this time. It's not all his fault, the players are letting him down too, but he deserves criticism.
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1. Agger wasn't our best centre back. That's entirely opinion-based.
2. That's baffling, I agree. Johnson has not had a bad season to be fair to Rodgers though (at least since his injury).
3. Speculation. We don't know how he coaches them.
4. That's definitely fair.
5. He' not only played deep. He has on a couple of occasions, but not consistently.
6. Fair, but I think Rodgers really wants a trophy.
7. Fair.
 
BarneyLFC said:
Rodgers out!!!



How does Van Gaal compare to Moyes again? Keep it up Louis!



All of that is true.



Football is a squad game, not an 'a team' and 'b team' one.



He's also made several that have seen us score goals/win games.

But go on, examples of these other decisions please.
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I watched it, it should have been a pen, but that would have been a spawny point, you didn't deserve anything from the game.
 
He's trying to be too smart for his own good, his massive ego is hurting the team, trying to make smart and clever decisions instead of right ones
 
BarneyLFC said:
If we're looking at English strikers that we'll sign then it'll inevitably be Berahino.

We need another player on Sturridge and Sterling's level. Not necessarily a striker, but a boss attacking player (ideally if not a striker, then a wide player). That, a goalkeeper and a decent partner for Sakho and we'll be ok.
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What will Liverpool's budget be, roughly, without sales?
 
Found in the newbs.


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Dumbstar said:
:confused: I don't get it. What have I got to u-turn on?
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Not a u-turn on what you said previously, just a u-turn on your feelings on Rodgers. The first post makes it seem like you were more or less enamoured with Rodgers and how he'd changed your football forever, and just a few months ago you were loving how under-estimated he was. I suspect that might change over the coming months.
 
They lost to a Newcastle on the up, then to possibly the best team in the world, then to the team maybe third or fourth in behind them. Liverpool's suffering looks enjoyably worse than it probably is. What I can't believe is the way Tottenham set the example of what not to do with a gigantic cash windfall in one transfer window but nevertheless Rogers goes and matches them for rash incoherence. Almost everyone had him pegged as shrewder than that.
 
I wonder if dropping Sterling, Henderson and Gerrard from the Madrid game will bite him on the arse. Those are the kind of games you remember for your whole life as a player and he denied them. How many more chances will they get to play there?
 
marukomu said:
I wonder if dropping Sterling, Henderson and Gerrard from the Madrid game will bite him on the arse. Those are the kind of games you remember for your whole life as a player and he denied them. How many more chances will they get to play there?
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I'm sure Sterling will get his chance in a year or three at another club, the other two, yeah not so much.
 
marukomu said:
I wonder if dropping Sterling, Henderson and Gerrard from the Madrid game will bite him on the arse. Those are the kind of games you remember for your whole life as a player and he denied them. How many more chances will they get to play there?
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Not many any time soon would be my guess, unless they're playing in the same pre-season tournament as Real Madrid.
 
If you sacrifice a game against Real Madrid just to go all out and beat Chelsea for what happened last April, and fail, you're gonna get labelled a prat.


It's also funny how accurate those "done a Spurs" predictions seem to be when Liverpool fans were convinced Rodgers spent wisely. Lallana the £25m signing an unused sub yesterday? Bizarre.
 
Apart from Balotelli, who's been utter shite. A number of his other recent signings haven't played enough to be able to judge. Strange week to start rotating but probably didn't affect the results.

(Lovren's been poor too, obv)

...and I don't trust the GK but that's last year
 
Needham said:
They lost to a Newcastle on the up, then to possibly the best team in the world, then to the team maybe third or fourth in behind them. Liverpool's suffering looks enjoyably worse than it probably is. What I can't believe is the way Tottenham set the example of what not to do with a gigantic cash windfall in one transfer window but nevertheless Rogers goes and matches them for rash incoherence. Almost everyone had him pegged as shrewder than that.
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The defeats to Villa, West Ham? They've been crap all season, apart from against Spurs funnily enough.
 
For some reason i believe that his decision regarding game against R.Madrid will haunt him in remaining 2 CL games too.Almost most acting like wins vs Basel and Ludo are done deal.For some reason Basel gets results vs teams from England and Ludo away will not be piss easy.
 
Needham said:
They lost to a Newcastle on the up, then to possibly the best team in the world, then to the team maybe third or fourth in behind them. Liverpool's suffering looks enjoyably worse than it probably is. What I can't believe is the way Tottenham set the example of what not to do with a gigantic cash windfall in one transfer window but nevertheless Rogers goes and matches them for rash incoherence. Almost everyone had him pegged as shrewder than that.
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They've lost 8 in 17 this season as compared to 8 in 43 last season. He deserves all the criticism that he's getting particularly after his comments regarding Spurs spending. Smug twat.
 
His celebration always reeks of "yes, this is because of my masterplan" rather than "im happy we scored". It was like his celebration when Gerrard scored that freekick against Everton, like it was all planned by him.
 
It's so obvious he fancies himself.... find it real funny though:)
 
I don't think he was better last season as some people have stated. I think the goals have dried up and that is shining a light on all of the deficient areas of the team this season. These are the same issues as last season only they won't score 100+ goals this season. Last season they conceded the 2nd most goals compared to the rest of the top 7; only Tottenham shipped more. It looks even worse when you compare their defensive stats against the top 4. He hasn't learned from last season defensively and then compounding that with losing the best striker in the league meant this season was always going to be a challenge.
 
The Southampton-Liverpool situation is quite remarkable. Its one thing that Rodgers squandered the Suarez money on absolute mediocrity. But what's more astounding is that Southhampton have actually improved despite having lost their so called best players this summer. None of it makes sense.
 
Raoul said:
The Southampton-Liverpool situation is quite remarkable. Its one thing that Rodgers squandered the Suarez money on absolute mediocrity. But what's more astounding is that Southhampton have actually improved despite having lost their so called best players this summer. None of it makes sense.
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And their manager!

Southampton is to Liverpool this season as Everton was to Man Utd last season. That's how I see it.
 
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Brwned said:
Not a u-turn on what you said previously, just a u-turn on your feelings on Rodgers. The first post makes it seem like you were more or less enamoured with Rodgers and how he'd changed your football forever, and just a few months ago you were loving how under-estimated he was. I suspect that might change over the coming months.
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Admittedly we're going through a tough patch and no-one is immune to criticism. But I still believe in the brand of football that Brendan has in mind to perfect. His obvious weakness is being able to purchase the correct players to fit his system (he never wanted Sturridge, he wanted Ashley Williams, etc) but everyone has flaws. We need to get over this relegation form soon, no doubt we will as it is not our default level.
 
Momochiru said:
It was unbelievably cringeworthy - the whole demeanor, face expression, lack of emotion, forced coolness as if to say "I'm the boss! Bow before me!" and after that to proceed to be well beaten by Chelsea...:lol: I can't believe anyone can question it's cringeworthyness :nono:
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This is exactly it. You must have to work hard to appear so joyless when your team scores. It's human nature and instinctive to smile when something good happens, so his lack of expression comes off as studied. Like he's actually practiced it. Probably in front of the painting of himself. His whole demeanour screams narcissist.
 
Dumbstar said:
Admittedly we're going through a tough patch and no-one is immune to criticism. But I still believe in the brand of football that Brendan has in mind to perfect. His obvious weakness is being able to purchase the correct players to fit his system (he never wanted Sturridge, he wanted Ashley Williams, etc) but everyone has flaws. We need to get over this relegation form soon, no doubt we will as it is not our default level.
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But is his brand of football enough to make him a top manager? you could easily find dozens of managers around europe that share his philosophy and want to play the same way, but a great manager is actually much more than the football he plays. A big part of his job this season was finding a new balance after losing suarez, the money spent did provide depth but on the expense of quality, liverpool are struggling as a result of that, and it's his fault.
 
His brand of football either side of Suarez + Sturridge hasn't exactly been great? They're awfully dull to watch at the moment, and they were pretty dull at the start of his first season as well.
 
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