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They've had 4 CBs fit all season. We've had our best one injured, our best prospect injured, our second best prospect injured, and our best non-injured CB has missed a few games through injury too.
Hart is simply massively overrated. He's not even a particularly good shot stopper.
In what sense could Silva possible be described as stable for the last year? He's done literally nothing. Why on earth you're comparing him to our centre mids when he plays on the wing I have no clue either (well, I do, but it would be rude to say it about you). Our widemen, even our off form widemen, have pissed over Silva so hard over the last year that it's remarkable that he hasn't choked to death on all the urine.
Actually, feck it, I am going to comment on it. The whole fecking obsession about our CM is blinding people. You are blind. You can't see. You can't think properly. You're so obsessed about our CM that you look enviously at everyone else's. You're so blind and so deluded that you see our oppositions widemen as CMs, in order to satisfy your pre-determined conclusion that everyone else has a better CM than us. They don't.. They have Gareth Barry. Gareth fecking Barry.
Chelsea, just feck off. Simply, feck right off. What utter nonsense. Go and get your brain examined. Take your head out of you're smelly little arsehole and take in some fresh air. Actually think about your opinion. Don't just have an opinion. Use your brain. Use logic. Look at the facts. Look at evidence. Jesus. Chelsea. Better than us in attack. Seriously. Seriously think about what you've just claimed. They've had a couple sparkling attacking performances and that's it. In terms of productivity, jesus fecking christ. Jesus. fecking. Christ. JESUS. feckING. CHRIST MAN! WHAT THE feck IS WRONG WITH YOU! I want to help you man. I want to reach out and help you. Let me help you young man. Let's get rid of those demons of yours.
Hart is simply massively overrated. He's not even a particularly good shot stopper.
In what sense could Silva possible be described as stable for the last year? He's done literally nothing. Why on earth you're comparing him to our centre mids when he plays on the wing I have no clue either (well, I do, but it would be rude to say it about you). Our widemen, even our off form widemen, have pissed over Silva so hard over the last year that it's remarkable that he hasn't choked to death on all the urine.
Actually, feck it, I am going to comment on it. The whole fecking obsession about our CM is blinding people. You are blind. You can't see. You can't think properly. You're so obsessed about our CM that you look enviously at everyone else's. You're so blind and so deluded that you see our oppositions widemen as CMs, in order to satisfy your pre-determined conclusion that everyone else has a better CM than us. They don't.. They have Gareth Barry. Gareth fecking Barry.
Chelsea, just feck off. Simply, feck right off. What utter nonsense. Go and get your brain examined. Take your head out of you're smelly little arsehole and take in some fresh air. Actually think about your opinion. Don't just have an opinion. Use your brain. Use logic. Look at the facts. Look at evidence. Jesus. Chelsea. Better than us in attack. Seriously. Seriously think about what you've just claimed. They've had a couple sparkling attacking performances and that's it. In terms of productivity, jesus fecking christ. Jesus. fecking. Christ. JESUS. feckING. CHRIST MAN! WHAT THE feck IS WRONG WITH YOU! I want to help you man. I want to reach out and help you. Let me help you young man. Let's get rid of those demons of yours.
No it isn't. Even chelsea fans will disagree.
Its not getting overboard, no one is saying we are miles better team on paper than city or anything. All people are saying we don't have "much inferior squad to city". I have no problem with people saying city's squad is probably a little better than ours but saying our squad is much inferior is totally stupid, as are people claiming that chelsea have a better squad than us. I mean seriously?? They have a very thing squad compared to both manchester clubs. Even their first XI isn't better although you can say it is much closer in terms of strength.
I don't know how you can make this post with a straight face.
You're right, we're shit, Citeh are the nuts.
Everyone on here is slowly turning into drones who are all convinced that we have an awful team. It's bizarre. Utterly bizarre.
Since when does being a "mercenary" preclude you from being a good player? And how does Rooney escape mention as a mercenary? Hart is overrated but still easily better than De Gea or Lindegaard. Zabaleta is class, Clichy is solid. Balotelli useless? Come on. Aguero and Dzeko might not be as good as Rooney or Van Persie but the gulf isn't near what you seem to think it is. Sinclair, Rodwell, Milner etc are decent squad players, which is all they are asked to be. You've got a massively biased view of their squad.
Like has been said, they're midfield is Barry and toure, not silva. Do you count Kagawa, Valencia or nani as midfielders? I you looks position by position, hart is better then our keeper, kompany is better then our center backs but basically every other one of ours are better then their second best. Rafael is better then any right back they have, Evra better left back as well. Toure is obviously superb, but other then him, their midfield is worse then ours. Attacking mids/wingers, they have silva and nasri, so one class player and one shite overrated pussy. We have nani, Valencia, young and Kagawa. We completely blow them out of the water there. And then for strikers, van persie and Rooney are far better then anything they have, while their third choice (dzeko) is better then Hernandez or welbeck. Balotelli is useless.
So yeah, how do you figure that they have a better squad? It's so overrated its unbelievable, almost as much as ours is underrated. Don't even get me started with Chelsea who are miles away from the Manchester clubs
It's the new thing to say instead of we're a one man team, or we're just lucky. Considering we have the best strike force in the world at the moment, it's ridiculous how people can say we have a weak team
even some saying Chelsea has a better attack, with 1 shite striker who hasn't performed well since he moved to Chelsea. Rafael has been by far the leagues best right back this season as well. Maybe it makes them feel better thinking that when SAF retires we will suddenly turn shit, and that the only reasons we are competing is because of sir Alex, which of course is ridiculous to even think that.
I wasn't entirely sure if he was serious to be honest. Look, I can easily do a clean caricature sweep of all of our players and sound daft. De Gea can't take crosses, Rio is past it, Vidic is a crock, Evra is a liability, Scholes and Giggs are senile, Nani has regressed, Carrick is useless now, Cleverley performs sporadically, Anderson does not have the fitness, etc etc.
These sweeping generalizations add absolutely nothing to the conversation.
Extremely true. How in the world does Chelsea and City have a better squad than us?
Their central midfield players are Rodwell, Garcia, Barry and Toure. Ours are Carrick, Anderson, Cleverley and Fletcher. Toure is probably best of the lot but who is the best after him?
Silva isn't a midfielder btw, if he's a midfielder than Wayne Rooney is also a midfielder.
Also Chelsea doesn't have a better squad than us, I expect these statements from retarded people at Bluemoon but not from Man Utd fans.
Fergie is amazing but any insinuation that we are top only because of him is retarded and stupid beyond belief. This has almost became a cliched statement at RAWK and Bluemoon.
Both City and us are better than Chelsea.
As for City, they have a as good XI, if not better than us. Though our squad beats both the rivals pretty easily. In terms of experience, spirit, depth at all positions etc. - we are better than both.
As for City, they have a as good XI, if not better than us. Though our squad beats both the rivals pretty easily. In terms of experience, spirit, depth at all positions etc. - we are better than both.
Forgive me. Quite a few of the city players are better than ours..
But we have the better team.
But we have the better team.
There's no doubt about that. Aguero, Kompany, Hart, Toure, Silva would probably get into our team.
But I genuinely wouldn't take anyone apart from Mata in Chelsea's team.
Mata is just the sort of player we could do with, I'd let Hazard sit on the bench though
City - United X1 assuming no injuries
-----------------Hart------------------
Rafael----Kompany-----Vidic------Clichy
----------Toure------Carrick-----------
Valencia-------------------------------
--------------------------Silva---------
------------Rooney--------------------
-------------------RVP----------------
Now you could argue Evra over Clichy, neither are top level for me anymore but Clichy has shown more than Evra over the past couple of seasons.
I am sure that there are even some United fans who would include Zabaleta over Rafael. In my opinion the would have to be slightly mentally deranged! Rafa is a diamond who is on his way to the very very top. Zabaleta is a solid defender no question but he offers little going forward and as we proved on Sunday, if you get at him, he is vulnerable.
I am sure that a lot of City fans would include Barry over Carrick too. Both are similar in that they are often overlooked and derided by opposition fans. Carrick has been average this season but his performances last year warrant his inclusion.
Valencia has been poor this time round but on his day he is an absolute beast and what is the City option? Nasri
Up front there may be a little controversy. Tevez and Aguero are top top players, Rooney and RVP are top top players. My case for Rooney's inclusion is that aside from being as productive with his end product as the City pair, he also works as hard as any player there is, he makes as many passes per game as David Silva and he can fill in a number of roles. As for RVP, neither of the City two have ever had a good a season as RVP did for Arsenal last year, and he is outperforming both of them this year too. Lets not forget as well - on Sunday, Rooney scored two and RVP stepped up to score the winner in a high pressure situation. The City pair came up impotent.
-----------------Hart------------------
Rafael----Kompany-----Vidic------Clichy
----------Toure------Carrick-----------
Valencia-------------------------------
--------------------------Silva---------
------------Rooney--------------------
-------------------RVP----------------
Now you could argue Evra over Clichy, neither are top level for me anymore but Clichy has shown more than Evra over the past couple of seasons.
I am sure that there are even some United fans who would include Zabaleta over Rafael. In my opinion the would have to be slightly mentally deranged! Rafa is a diamond who is on his way to the very very top. Zabaleta is a solid defender no question but he offers little going forward and as we proved on Sunday, if you get at him, he is vulnerable.
I am sure that a lot of City fans would include Barry over Carrick too. Both are similar in that they are often overlooked and derided by opposition fans. Carrick has been average this season but his performances last year warrant his inclusion.
Valencia has been poor this time round but on his day he is an absolute beast and what is the City option? Nasri
Up front there may be a little controversy. Tevez and Aguero are top top players, Rooney and RVP are top top players. My case for Rooney's inclusion is that aside from being as productive with his end product as the City pair, he also works as hard as any player there is, he makes as many passes per game as David Silva and he can fill in a number of roles. As for RVP, neither of the City two have ever had a good a season as RVP did for Arsenal last year, and he is outperforming both of them this year too. Lets not forget as well - on Sunday, Rooney scored two and RVP stepped up to score the winner in a high pressure situation. The City pair came up impotent.
That's pretty fair Jimmy. I am not sure I would include Vidic in the current situation but that wouldn't stop me from putting Smalling or Evans before any of City's other central defenders.
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=273394
This thread made me laugh so hard. It makes RAWK sound like place of sanity. What a bunch of deluded small time spackers. They even got in their "Sir Alex is the next Jimmy Saville" slur in.
MCFC is a club whose only reason d'etre is to become a poor rich man's version of MUFC. Just ask their owners.
This thread made me laugh so hard. It makes RAWK sound like place of sanity. What a bunch of deluded small time spackers. They even got in their "Sir Alex is the next Jimmy Saville" slur in.
MCFC is a club whose only reason d'etre is to become a poor rich man's version of MUFC. Just ask their owners.
Yup. Hazard is a wonderful talent but out of the attacking three of Chelsea, he's been the least impressive.
Exactly. I never understood how someone can call City's squad great. Toure is useless as a CM as soon as the opponent starts pressing him. So most of the time when he's having a great game he plays behind the striker. That's why City had to play with Barry and Garcia against european teams. Both are average at best. Kompany is a hell of a centerback when played to his strength. But he's nowhere near the top defenders in a high defensive line like most of the european teams play these days. Same goes for Hart.
City's squad is built around a bunch of great attacking players who can't be used to their strength at the same time. Last year that was enough in a fast paced english league to get results. Some english teams already picked up the continental approach to the game and the moment City needs to do the same they have to invest a lot to build a great squad with defenders and midfielders comfortable in the modern game. Martinez and Modric went for silly money to teams who already were way better in midfield than City. It showed, how much money you have to invest to strengthen that area. United has players and talents capable of playing well in midfield even though they are injured a lot. Carrick is underrated because his style is less fitting to the premier league than Barry's. But he's easily the better player when you're trying to build your squad the "continental" way. And the way the game changed over the last 5 years it's necessary to do that. Imagine how much money City needs to spend to field a midfield of 3 top quality players.
Most of the time only two of Toure, Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Balotelli, Dzeko and Tevez play in their best position.
The first CL game this year in Madrid they started with Toure behind Tevez, Nasri on the right, Silva on the left and Garcia with Barry in midfield. That's two great players where they are best, two great players where they will play average against quality teams most of the time and two average players. Great squad? I don't think so. Some people still called the CL failure this year inexperience, when Ajax and Dortmund fielded younger teams coached by a less experienced manager. The hype and the excuses around City's squad are absurd and I loved watching them fail in europe. It was hilarious.
Some Bluemoon spacker said:
What the feck? What did Phil Jones do except get kicked by the mercenary shitstain that is Carlos Tevez?
Can we discuss who is better in the squad thread or make one? feck off, this is laugh at the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime at bluemoon thread.
Numpties.
Numpties.
I read the whole post-match thread on Bluemoon a couple of hours after the game on Sunday. I was absolutely amazed at the level of vitriol and aggression in the comments. Occasionally, there was a reasoned post by someone, but those were few and far between. It makes RAWK look like Enid Blyton.
Add to that the fact that their board looks crappy and basic, and what you end up with is a nasty place, really.
Add to that the fact that their board looks crappy and basic, and what you end up with is a nasty place, really.
random keyboard warrior from OLDHAM said:
You really couldn't make it up, could you?
Great post Balu. Even last year I thought that the criticism towards them for not reaching the knockout stages should've been more. Their group consisted of a side when was eventually relegated and a Napoli side which was not great.
If people honestly believe that City have a better squad than us they need to explain how the two teams had essentially identical records last season, despite United having six times as many injuries. And of course that was before we went out and signed, y'know, the best striker in the world.
Does anyone want to imagine where City would be if Kompany had missed 60 matches in the last year and a half? How about Yaya? They've got a handful of really good players and then a great big £200m pile of mediocrity.
People say this every fecking year.
Does anyone want to imagine where City would be if Kompany had missed 60 matches in the last year and a half? How about Yaya? They've got a handful of really good players and then a great big £200m pile of mediocrity.
People say this every fecking year.
Their replacement for Kompany last season was Savic. Our replacement for Vida was either Smalling or Evans. Take your pick out of the two.
It appears that, after being subject to much abuse (like all our squad), Phil celebrated in a gloating manner in the vicinity of their fans, instead of waiting until he had run all the way to the missile zone.What the feck? What did Phil Jones do except get kicked by the mercenary shitstain that is Carlos Tevez?
From what I can tell he shushed them as he ran to celebrate. Which is fair enough, considering they sing that stupid fecking song insinuating he was a crap signing every single time they play.
It's actually the perfect encapsulation of what City have become. They revel in signing a 40 million pound striker by singing about how expensive he was. Well done, Manchester 'moral high ground' City, well done.
It's actually the perfect encapsulation of what City have become. They revel in signing a 40 million pound striker by singing about how expensive he was. Well done, Manchester 'moral high ground' City, well done.
Here's a video of what Phil Jones did
What an utter twat. How dare he do that?
What an utter twat. How dare he do that?
If anyone listened to the 606 podcast from Sunday you will primarily hear City fans blaming United players for riling up the crowd.
They are the biggest bunch of fecking whingers. Sit down shut up you absolute fecking wankers.
Haven't quite finished reading this bizarre conversation, but I thought this was a very salient point. I think part of the issue is that the sort of player we could most use is the sort City and Chelsea have in spades.
We have Persie and Rooney who need to play centrally, so what we really need are wide players that specialize in cutting inside and creating a high amount of goals and assists. Aguero or Silva, Matta or Hazard would be great in such a role, I'd take any two of them, if SAF judged them to have the necessary character.
It seems to me many people underrate our squad, but my feelings on the matter are not so strong as some...
Whoever it was that said the Chelsea squad is better than ours shouldn't be allowed to talk about football.
Seriously, aside from 3 absolutely lovely players (I'm sure you all know which 3) they've got nothing to shout about and none of them would walk into our side.
Seriously, aside from 3 absolutely lovely players (I'm sure you all know which 3) they've got nothing to shout about and none of them would walk into our side.
We have one in Kagawa. The problem is I don't think Fergie really knows how to get the best out of that sort of player.
Ivanovic, Terry and Cole?
Ramires is the one player from Chelsea I'd want. Mata would be excellent, but we've no need of him, and the others are inferior to what we have. Ramires though, he'd be a monster in our team.
What about them? Unless you're suggesting they'd get in our side? Which they wouldn't.
Cole, maybe. But he's been as inconsistant as Evra this season. Heck, not just this season. He's been up and down for the last 18 months at least.
I'm not saying they don't have a good team. But they're far from anything special and certainly not better than us.
Racist?