Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

This is just headlines for headlines sake. News has come out, to create a bit of uproar.

City will pay off the lawyers, pay a 20m fine and in 2 years when everyone forgotten about it, nothing will happen.

I dont know why people think anything other than a fine will be the outcome.

it’s hard to picture an outcome here where they only get handed a fine.100 offences, and 5 years where there has clearly been more but they Have refused to cooperate. They’re getting hit harder than just a fine. Don’t underestimate the power that the American owners in our league have combined.
 
This is just headlines for headlines sake. News has come out, to create a bit of uproar.

City will pay off the lawyers, pay a 20m fine and in 2 years when everyone forgotten about it, nothing will happen.

I dont know why people think anything other than a fine will be the outcome.

I don’t think they’ll strip any titles as the PL won’t want the negative PR. It would do huge damage to the brand to say to fans (around the world as much as in England) that none of that was real or meant anything. Quite frankly being awarded a title in that way would feel hollow regardless.

That being said I think cuts to their allowed spending, points deduction in the current season or next season, transfer window bans or similar would be reasonable.
 
City have the best lawyers in the world apparently, regardless if they broke the law or not:
If guilty and it’s a big if it will a 15 point deduction this season which isn’t the end of the world . Our lawyers are not back street lawyers infact they are the top of there profession and I expect a major pr fight coming up
We'll miss you all
It’s my last season. With the season ticket, Sky Sports, BT Sports, Sky Bet in a cost of living crisis with their corrupt product, they can feck off. I know the team haven’t been at it this season, but the officiating has been as obvious as a cock on a nun. They’re fecking desperate for us not to win this league. That along with City staff and their attitude to legacy fans, I’ve no stomach to fight for them. A league run by bent, corrupt thundercunts.
I've never queried our sponsorship deals. To me they've seemed fair value all along. Also, I'm sure our contracts are very cleverly written and our players are well rewarded. No problem with that, I've always assumed the legalities are fine.
Get Khaldoon & Mansour on the phone to the government and start pulling the billions pumped into the uk. These made up rules we have supposedly broken should then disappear.
They'll show em, listenership down by 1 lonely City fan
I’ve just unsubscribed from every single football podcast I listen to. The next few weeks would be the most annoying fecking period to put up listening to the cnuts.
Just hearing a candlelit protest taking place in Liverpool this evening. They believe titles when they came 2nd should be theirs.
Relax guys, this is all just yo distract you from things that actually matter like economics and unity among the lower classes
It’s probably signing Tevez & 3rd party ownership but Rags still not investigated.
Joe Royle in if Pep leaves?
Hard to believe we have got that many things wrong for so long, either unwittingly or intentionally.
I have always worried why the club did not fight the smear campaign thrown at it by the British media and the red shirt clubs.
If the club have dirt on the other hateful 8(9) surely this is the time to make it public as we all know who is responsible for putting pressure on The Premier League to charge us with this
Papa Johns trophy here we come
That'll show em, ban the three journalists that report about City
I hope the club are making note of the name of every journalist writing as fact not accusation to fecking haul them over the coals should we win this case. Ban. The. cnuts
Funny
Cancelo’s grassed us up the ****
I’ll tell you what. The PL should be very worried indeed as this could easily lead to another ESL attempt…..look how LIV golf is doing despite the opposition from the PGA and others…..
Will the scum get investigated over that Chevrolet deal? Thought not.
There's no way in hell the Premier League will allow us to beat all of these charged breaches, no way at all.
Get out of jail card for Pep
Surely growing up is accepting punishment for your wrongdoings rather than constantly running from it.
I wasn't going to renew my ST but if we get relegated I'll 100% be there!
The hateful 8(9) that are behind this, just need to keep the narrative going that City are corrupt. The PL are their Puppets. The charges are almost irrelevent.
If you read the charges they are woolly as feck
They are basically doing the same as uefa in saying we did not cooperate with enquiry
Why cooperate when it’s a witch hunt by certain letter writers
The independent commission will no doubt find us guilty of some charges but drop most charges
The biggest will be not cooperating
Then we will nail the cnuts at CAS just like UEFA
Remember Juve being relegated and some of their star players remaining loyal.

50 goals for Haaland in the Championship ;-)
UAE: Good afternoon Rishi, I hear the Premier League are trying to shaft us with a pineapple?

Rishi: Yes I’m afraid the club have breached financial rules.

UAE: Did we mention that the price of oil is to be increased by 100%?

Rishi: Oh….I’ll sort it.

UAE: Obliged.
Oh well, another FFP charge, they just keep coming don't they.
The sun will still come up tomorrow, the moon will still make a showing & dippers and rags are still a bunch of cnuts.
Business as usual then
What's the worse that can possibly happen?
Relegation to League 2?
Is there anyone here who will stop supporting the club?
feck it, I'll support it more. Will probably be able to afford the Tunnel Club as all the corporates and tourists will feck off, and we'll be sponsored by Hyde's Brewery or something.
6-7 years and we'll be back in the PL.
feck the lot of them. The PL and the Cartel Clubs are 20 times more corrupt than City has been or ever will be. And don't start me on PiGMOL and the gambling syndicates. All bent as nine bob notes.
This has been going on since the takeover. Whatever the outcome we know who's behind it and why. It's the biggest kids in the playground changing the rules when a smaller kid suddenly gets bigger and starts to beat them. Unfortunately for us the bigger kids have the whole of the gobshite media with them. It's a scattergun approach too, if you throw enough mud at something, no matter how non stick you make a building eventually something will stick.
Now they're begging for just a point deduction
The worse that will happen is a 15 point deduction I guarantee it . A lot of hot air and our super lawyers will be all over it.
I mentioned elsewhere, ramifications are beyond sport. If our owner fights then there is ni way this talk doesn't reach UK PM's office. We have Silver lake investment for roughly 20% too. Don't think this will be easy for PL
Wow... :wenger:
I could not give a shit about any of the so called FFP rules brought in by the scum united to stop us

This is my club and even if we have to play FCUM next season in the lower leagues, we will have 50.000 others just like me turning up each week and watch Manchester city football club playing football,

they can all feck off with the shit league and so-called rules, it's bollocks and just shows that Glory means to united fans, they need to be champions every season, so they can spout shit about being the biggest club in the world,

for ten years, Manchester city have been playing under different rules to the rest, and we still beat the system and won titles, dodgy match officials every fecking week out to get us by any means possible, even letting other teams kick the shit out of players then book our players to fighting back,

COME ON MANCHESTER CITY, take the whole thing down if we are going to get punished, call them out once and for all, they are the biggest CHEATS and let us go through their books ? oh look page one CHEAT I can guarantee,
Arsenal fan asking the important questions:
'fashionable brands' what are you talking about, your revenues are higher than Real Madrid and Man United, your as 'fashionable as they come. Your a mainstream club with global revenues higher than all other clubs

Although I think that's might be the problem. Your revenues are higher than Man Uniteds and Real Madrid..............why.
They've now resorted to doxxing the guy leading the investigation against them and found out he's an Arsenal fan...

Slap on the wrist, maybe points but this, in my opinion, is stage managed by the Premier League.

United and Liverpool are going to be taken over in the not too distant future.

They will be able to spend freely one City have set a precedence as to what punishment the League are able to dish out
The conspiracy continues:
Our legal team can be brilliant but we are not up against the premier league's legal team as we know, we are up against the hateful eight/nine's legal teams and unfortunately they can also afford some very good representation. The premier league is a smokescreen for who's really running the show and behind this.
Remember when Liverpool hacked our database and the Premier League refused to get involved because it was too long ago...
Fine & points deduction is all we are likely to get. The clubs biggest issue is if we have cheated we lose pep, players & fans will also walk
 
it’s hard to picture an outcome here where they only get handed a fine.100 offences, and 5 years where there has clearly been more but they Have refused to cooperate. They’re getting hit harder than just a fine. Don’t underestimate the power that the American owners in our league have combined.
I don’t think they’ll strip any titles as the PL won’t want the negative PR. It would do huge damage to the brand to say to fans (around the world as much as in England) that none of that was real or meant anything. Quite frankly being awarded a title in that way would feel hollow regardless.

That being said I think cuts to their allowed spending, points deduction in the current season or next season, transfer window bans or similar would be reasonable.


Agreed on both but these enquiries take really long and by the time they come to make decisions, there will be "new evidence" and what not produced by City.

Lets just say, after the UEFA incident where they were banned for 2 years and 30m fine, was reduced to just a 10m fine, I do not have any faith in the authorities to get it right.
 
Agreed on both but these enquiries take really long and by the time they come to make decisions, there will be "new evidence" and what not produced by City.

Lets just say, after the UEFA incident where they were banned for 2 years and 30m fine, was reduced to just a 10m fine, I do not have any faith in the authorities to get it right.
Uefa is as shady as it gets, the PL has different standards so hopefully the punishment is fair.
 
Strip them of all titles won, except 13/14, 18/19 and 21/22. They still deserve those three.
 
Agreed on both but these enquiries take really long and by the time they come to make decisions, there will be "new evidence" and what not produced by City.

Lets just say, after the UEFA incident where they were banned for 2 years and 30m fine, was reduced to just a 10m fine, I do not have any faith in the authorities to get it right.

Yeah, people dreaming of a couple of PL titles need to get real. That just isn't going to happen.

At best City may get relegated. However, I imagine a big fine and possibly a 30pt deduction.
 
Cancelo being an informant made me chuckle :lol:
 
Bluemoon seems to have a few posters that genuinely have a few brains cells. But 90% of the posts relating to this are just horseshit. They’re acting tough now but they can’t keep running from the authorities.
 
For whom the bell tolls.

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There are genuinely people posting on that forum, who believe there’s not much evidence because it’s taken 5 years.

They don’t have the capacity to switch it around and think maybe we have been trying everything possible to stop the authorities getting the information.

Nevermind the people that genuinely believe they earn more revenue then European greats with established fan bases through generations.

With the way pep has been and city in general in the past number of weeks, I’d take an educated guess they knew this was coming.
 
This is just headlines for headlines sake. News has come out, to create a bit of uproar.

City will pay off the lawyers, pay a 20m fine and in 2 years when everyone forgotten about it, nothing will happen.

I dont know why people think anything other than a fine will be the outcome.

This is quite serious actually, I'm not sure they'll be able to pay their way out of this one.

I've a feeling the PL is making an example of them. The fact it's taken four years to investigate shows they mean business.
 
For a few years now, I have been wondering how City sign players under their market value, and on fairly low salaries. If we signed the same players, it would cost us 20-30 million more than what they pay. Then I read about this private company that pays their players for image rights, and the money involved is obscene. I wouldn't be surprised if the PL have managed to get former City players to give evidence which confirms this. On the record, the club pay them 80 grand per week, but under the table there's another 100k going into their pockets. And it seems that they've got former academy players saying that they were paid professional contracts before they were 17, which is also against the rules.

We already know that all of their sponsorship deals are bogus and directly connected to the Abu Dhabi royal family, so why would they be any different with anything else, they are corrupt and will try to find sneaky loopholes here and there, but it seems that enough people were willing to talk and tell the truth on what they have been up to.
 
For a few years now, I have been wondering how City sign players under their market value, and on fairly low salaries. If we signed the same players, it would cost us 20-30 million more than what they pay. Then I read about this private company that pays their players for image rights, and the money involved is obscene. I wouldn't be surprised if the PL have managed to get former City players to give evidence which confirms this. On the record, the club pay them 80 grand per week, but under the table there's another 100k going into their pockets. And it seems that they've got former academy players saying that they were paid professional contracts before they were 17, which is also against the rules.

We already know that all of their sponsorship deals are bogus and directly connected to the Abu Dhabi royal family, so why would they be any different with anything else, they are corrupt and will try to find sneaky loopholes here and there, but it seems that enough people were willing to talk and tell the truth on what they have been up to.

You know that mancini’s city contract is publicly available online with those exact off hand payments.

the evidence is staring everyone in the face has been forever.
 
This is quite serious actually, I'm not sure they'll be able to pay their way out of this one.

I've a feeling the PL is making an example of them. The fact it's taken four years to investigate shows they mean business.

I really hope so, make an example of them will definitely make other clubs think twice of doing it.

I can see Chelsea and Newcastle watching this closely.
 
I can see Chelsea and Newcastle watching this closely.

I suspect Chelsea did most of their dodgy stuff before the rules were put in place, and Newcastle will surely have taken precautions against it, being so recent. In all likelihood, these two clubs will not be in breach of the rules. Chelsea have set up their youth mill and are selling a hundred players per season in order to finance their transfers, and Newcastle aren't spending extravagantly but rather taking it slow and building up their financial structures ahead of time.
 
It probably will eventually

I actually think it can't since CAS (I think I read) requires all parties involved to sign up to their arbitration system - so the Premier League needs to be a part of it, too.

That's not to say that the Premier League doesn't / won't have its own appeals system, of course.
 
I suspect Chelsea did most of their dodgy stuff before the rules were put in place, and Newcastle will surely have taken precautions against it, being so recent. In all likelihood, these two clubs will not be in breach of the rules. Chelsea have set up their youth mill and are selling a hundred players per season in order to finance their transfers, and Newcastle aren't spending extravagantly but rather taking it slow and building up their financial structures ahead of time.

Yes, they taking their time but there will come to a point where they will need to spend big on wages and transfers.

Chelsea, however good their youth mill is, they aint selling 500m worth of transfers.
 
I actually think it can't since CAS (I think I read) requires all parties involved to sign up to their arbitration system - so the Premier League needs to be a part of it, too.

That's not to say that the Premier League doesn't / won't have its own appeals system, of course.
You maybe right but I suspect in the PL rules there'll be something about arbitration, guess we'll find out, probably in 3-4 years time!
 
Had an hour break, they've written another 120 pages in that time...

And they're still worried:
Strip us of titles!!?? They were won fair and square on a football pitch, not in the boardroom
United and Liverpool are no longer for sale.

On hearing the news, the Glasers and FSG have decided not to sell their clubs.
100% can’t take the memories. Give me a champions league before this all ends and then send us wherever u want I couldn’t care less
Can we boo the anthem now
We are fecked, good while it lasted.
If things are bad, a lot of players are going to be getting a visit from HMRC, those guys won't take prisoners.
Since this will take a few years to conclude if there is a feeling at city we may not be able to get out of this one may as well spend big this summer and try to win that champions league. Screw what happens next we would’ve won it all!
When Spurs got many of their punishments overturned in 1994 for financial breaches relating to illegal payments, Sugar did it by taking it to arbitration. Not CAS but another arbitration panel. I'd be surprised if we wouldn't be able to do something similar if we need to. Perhaps someone can clarify?
City are very silent. Usually would issue a pre-written holding statement by now
Not going to lie don't see how we beat this , it's so obvious the PL hates us and under premier league rules the club can't take the sanction to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (which overturned the UEFA ban)
Time to get the Chelsea scarf out of the back of the wardrobe.
Those that don't cheat are a 'cartel' apparently:
The fact is that had we complied fully with every rule written we probably wouldn't be anywhere near where we are today.

We all know the rules were written or at least influenced by a "cartel" to protect themselves and they were designed to prevent any club being able to challenge the said cartel.

Its so fecking obvious. I really don't want to be a part of it anymore. Unless and until United are serial title winners again this will never end!
Didn't this ziegler gobshite have us hung, drawn and quartered with the UEFA ban?

Is he another sportswashing/human rights abuse wanker like the rest of them?
Would love to be a fly on the wall in Khaldoons office
Surely it's good luck defending it?
50 charges relate to financial reporting.

12 relate to other payments to players.

20 relate to payments to managers 10 years ago.

Good luck to the PL in proving it all.
A few thoughts, I hope the premier league have got deep pockets they will need them
Here we go again. I wish we hadn't paid the first fine...knew they'd be back. Charged for trying to compete in business. What a joke. They just can't help themselves. Man the barricades. Tin hats on.
Yeah, that's exactly what it says...
That City statement has blown me away. Incredibly confident and essentially accusing the PL of being biased against us.
They're always the underdog
It’s been us vs everyone for about 10 years now, it’s about time we take the fight to them and show some fecking bite for once rather being all pally.

The nice approach hasn’t worked and we get accused of everything under the sun with no repercussions. Finish it once and for all
Go after the cnuts City
I’m actually looking forward to the fight
They’ve basically just smirked at the PL.
The statement is powerful in that we must be very very confident in our position to be so assured
Up the fecking blues. Siege mentality now. Create hell against villa. Boo everything anti city and make it a fortress.
"Why he say feck me for?.gif"
Well that statement has perked me up a bit.

feck united, feck liverpool, feck arsenal, feck spurs, feck the league, feck uefa, feck fifa, feck the media... feck the whole fecking lot of them
You forgot Fergie ;-)
EVERYONE'S against them
cnuts. Proper, proper cnuts. Both the dippers and the FA. What are the options?

Points deduction? Hand Arsenal the league albeit with an asterisk next to it.

Transfer ban? Rags and dippers close to being taken over so they can spend freely while we can’t (see Chelsea)

Hopefully just blown out of proportion but as your post suggests, it’s inconsistency at its finest. At least now we know where the referees get it from…
A complete, feck right off response. I like it
It's taken 4 years to charge us, if they had concrete evidence we'd have been charged a lot sooner. With Pep mentioning the letter from 8 or 9, this stinks of the cartel clubs applying pressure for us to be charged and found guilty without due process.
Quite clear that the PL don't like owners with dark skin and aren't welcome in the PL. feck the Yank loving c*nts that is the PL
Let’s hope we beat this lot then actually start to call out the names & take legal action ourself. Enough is enough City.
I've never known a clubs fans openly state that they will still continue to support or stop supporting the club based on decisions made by governing bodies.
I look forward to our defence against the allegations as a final chance to bury them.

If it all goes tits up, I will still be a City fan. If we have years in the wilderness, I will still be a City fan. If we play an Academy team every week, I will still be a City fan.
Yes, we have dirt on the whole PL, they're were in bed with UEFA in a hotel down the road...
We r fecked even if we win. Our only hope is we have some dirt on the pl
FA in a nutshell……..

Yank money is ok
Arab money is dirty
This has fired fans up more so hopefully this all backfires on the prem league.

I see plenty of support for the blues now regardless how poor we have been.

Time to go on a run city & smash everybody in front of us.

We are now the 12th man till end of the season blues
Does it really?
That statement is fantastic. It comes across as though we’re bored of their whole charade while also accusing them - without actually saying so - of bias
Erm, no?
makes you wonder why the rags and dippers are up for sale eh?
Real call to arms wasn't it
We are not fecking about with that statement. Come on!!!!
Good statement that
Basically says bring it on you cheating cnuts!!!
So what i take from this happening, is that it is the last throw of the dice from the snidey **** american cartel
Can't wait to see what they have on us
Time to stop taking it up the backside and dish every bit of dirt we've got on the rags, dippers and arse. Enough of this softly softly approach, we've got zero friends out there, what have we got to lose. Our approach over the years of being passive has proved to be the wrong one.
Unless we claim victimisation? Or ethnic racism being targeted and blow the whole corrupt organisation to bits?