Bluemoon goes into Meltdown

Guys why is anyone surprised or care? City is a wee club and always have been. We are talking about a club which is smaller then Blackburn.

Caring about city makes them look bigger then they are because the truth is they are a pebble in the shoe of a club the stature of United or Liverpool.

They got banned...100% deserved. Same should go with PSG. Clubs who were nothing in there leagues before oil money.
In what way are Man City smaller than Blackburn?
 
Will PSG be getting the ban hammer too or have they somehow avoided it?

It's already been discussed in the thread but they took their slap on the wrist a few years ago and have apparently towed the line since.

Granted it's easier to do in the French league as the standard isn't as high but there's no evidence that they were up to any of the shenanigans city have been banned for.
 
In fans.
And real, legit income generated probably too.
Titles as well pre oil money.

It’s really not much of a debate City are a small club It will take years to change that narrative and even then when you dive deeper in it and find out why they became relevant it’s even funnier.
 
And yet our balance sheets were validated by the FFP every year since. You want to know how we did it? We had to sell players, every season, and couldn't afford to buy expensive ones to fill our gaps. Fortunately, we turned a nice profit on transactions like Guedes, Lo Celso or Berchiche. On top of that, a lot of our players are here for 5+ years so we're not paying there transfers anymore. Did you ever wonder why we are playing with guys like Bernat (bought 8M), Meunier (bought for 7M) or other players like that? Because we can't afford anything else atm. And that's pretty much the reason why our team is pretty unbalanced. We bought Mbappé for the price you bought Lukaku + Fred. We bought Neymar for the price you bought Maguire+Bruno+AWB.

Can you explain the finances/scenario around the Mbappe signing? I’m being serious. I thought it was a at age at the time, but I could be wrong?
 
Can you explain the finances/scenario around the Mbappe signing? I’m being serious. I thought it was a at age at the time, but I could be wrong?

The information we have come from the football leaks so it's likely to be pretty accurate.

Mbappe was loaned 1 year for free with a 145M option (+bonuses unlocked if he's sold or if his contract is extended) when he was 18, not to bend the rules of FFP but because Monaco wanted to manage their corporate tax for that year, then a 4 years contract. His salary is 50M for 5 years (started at 7M/year and increase every year).
PSG's president mentionned the fact that as far as the FFP is concerned, Mbappe was registered when he was loaned (and not when he was actually transfered) because we all sort of know that it wasn't a real option and that PSG was compelled to buy him (is think the option was completed if PSG managed to stay in Ligue 1 or something like that).

Does that answer your question?
 
Stay on topic. This is not the PSG thread.

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I don't have a crowd gif like the RAWK one.
 
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My god that place really is the delusional pits of the earth isn't it?

There are genuinely fans on there who believe that along with Manchester City, the other big English clubs (namely our lot and your lot) could (and if not could, then should) band together about this issue of Manchester City being banned for financial doping and 'creative accounting' to tell UEFA to feck off..
 
My god that place really is the delusional pits of the earth isn't it?

There are genuinely fans on there who believe that along with Manchester City, the other big English clubs (namely our lot and your lot) could (and if not could, then should) band together about this issue of Manchester City being banned for financial doping and 'creative accounting' to tell UEFA to feck off..
:lol: yeah good luck with that.
 
And yet our balance sheets were validated by the FFP every year since. You want to know how we did it? We had to sell players, every season, and couldn't afford to buy expensive ones to fill our gaps. Fortunately, we turned a nice profit on transactions like Guedes, Lo Celso or Berchiche. On top of that, a lot of our players are here for 5+ years so we're not paying there transfers anymore. Did you ever wonder why we are playing with guys like Bernat (bought 8M), Meunier (bought for 7M) or other players like that? Because we can't afford anything else atm. And that's pretty much the reason why our team is pretty unbalanced. We bought Mbappé for the price you bought Lukaku + Fred. We bought Neymar for the price you bought Maguire+Bruno+AWB.


i‘m sure you do this for the wum effect. Nobody could be that stupid. We bought those players with our own money. Money we have in abundance, notwithstanding our owners parsimonious and habitual greed. In fact, we underspend in relation to the money we learn, whereas you lot, Chelsea and Ciddy spend money that doesn’t belong to the club. Hence Ffp.

clear now?
 
And yet our balance sheets were validated by the FFP every year since. You want to know how we did it? We had to sell players, every season, and couldn't afford to buy expensive ones to fill our gaps. Fortunately, we turned a nice profit on transactions like Guedes, Lo Celso or Berchiche. On top of that, a lot of our players are here for 5+ years so we're not paying there transfers anymore. Did you ever wonder why we are playing with guys like Bernat (bought 8M), Meunier (bought for 7M) or other players like that? Because we can't afford anything else atm. And that's pretty much the reason why our team is pretty unbalanced. We bought Mbappé for the price you bought Lukaku + Fred. We bought Neymar for the price you bought Maguire+Bruno+AWB.

All the players we bought we did so because we organically grew into the club we were. For all your great investments, his point still stands in that you wouldn't be anywhere without the state funded money.
 
All the players we bought we did so because we organically grew into the club we were. For all your great investments, his point still stands in that you wouldn't be anywhere without the state funded money.
No argument needed there!
 
So according to a sports lawyer city stars could walk from their contracts if CL football is a fundamental part of their contract. Contract breach baby!

Stay in Manchester? No problem! Come to your neighbours house Kevin!
 
So according to a sports lawyer city stars could walk from their contracts if CL football is a fundamental part of their contract. Contract breach baby!

Stay in Manchester? No problem! Come to your neighbours house Kevin!
Just imagine, De Bruyne, putting on.... A Salford City shirt
 
I read something horrible. They might scratch City's 2014 title because of this. And if so, the title might go to the number 2 of that year.

Guess who finished runners up in 2014...
 
I read something horrible. They might scratch City's 2014 title because of this. And if so, the title might go to the number 2 of that year.

Guess who finished runners up in 2014...

I don't get it, why only 2014? Not that I'm complaining obviously but just one specific title, and that one in particular, is a bit strange. It's probably just journos wumming both Liverpool and Utd fans.
 
I don't get it, why only 2014? Not that I'm complaining obviously but just one specific title, and that one in particular, is a bit strange. It's probably just journos wumming both Liverpool and Utd fans.
Accounts being investigated are 2012 - 2016 and they only won one title in that time. Thats my understanding
 
I can't see how they can give the title to Liverpool for that year. If they do that, then surely the team that finished 5th could claim for a missed CL spot.
 
So according to a sports lawyer city stars could walk from their contracts if CL football is a fundamental part of their contract. Contract breach baby!

Stay in Manchester? No problem! Come to your neighbours house Kevin!
They said the same when juve were relegated. They got fees for all of them anyway.
 
If it really were to come down to relegation which players would you reckon, would bolt straight for the exits and which ones would stay (Buffom, del Piero etc)?
 
If it really were to come down to relegation which players would you reckon, would bolt straight for the exits and which ones would stay (Buffom, del Piero etc)?
Couple of years ago i would have said silva, kompany and maybe aguero. Cant see many hanging around now. Fernandinho maybe? Sterling and De Bruyne would be the ones i'd concentrate on trying to keep. Sane would definitely be off. Not sure i'd be too pushed keeping Jesus or Mahrez, they're replaceable and their wages would be a problem if you were trying to comply with FFP in League two. B. Silva and Rodri i'd want to keep but don't really see why they would. Laporte, Ederson and Walker i'd want to keep again, getting any of them to stay would probably be a bonus though.
 
Couple of years ago i would have said silva, kompany and maybe aguero. Cant see many hanging around now. Fernandinho maybe? Sterling and De Bruyne would be the ones i'd concentrate on trying to keep. Sane would definitely be off. Not sure i'd be too pushed keeping Jesus or Mahrez, they're replaceable and their wages would be a problem if you were trying to comply with FFP in League two. B. Silva and Rodri i'd want to keep but don't really see why they would. Laporte, Ederson and Walker i'd want to keep again, getting any of them to stay would probably be a bonus though.

If Man City get thrown down to League 2, I don't think it's the wages of Jesus and Mahrez they have to worry about...
 
In fans.
And real, legit income generated probably too.
Before FFP there was Jack Walker, who pumped mega money at the time into Blackburn. Cumulating in them winning the Premiership in 95. They had managed to sign Shearer, the best striker around at the time as well. They would have been hit with FFP if it had existed then. Once Walker died, they went back to where they came from.
 
Accounts being investigated are 2012 - 2016 and they only won one title in that time. Thats my understanding
By who?
UEFA don't have the authority to strip city of any league title?
 
Before FFP there was Jack Walker, who pumped mega money at the time into Blackburn. Cumulating in them winning the Premiership in 95. They had managed to sign Shearer, the best striker around at the time as well. They would have been hit with FFP if it had existed then. Once Walker died, they went back to where they came from.


So would city and to a lesser extent Chelsea if they had to stand on their own two feet.
 
So would city and to a lesser extent Chelsea if they had to stand on their own two feet.
Exactly. City would be perrenial floaters between premier and league 1. Chelsea 12-6th in the Premier but never really challenge top 4
 
Bluemoon has reached the caf:

It is quite obvious that we did cook the books. Maybe still are doing, but does it really matter? For you lot it definetely does, you might actually get into CL...

If we get cleared, this wishful thinking thread can go into the muck, as according to the letter of the law we will be innocent. Like OJ is :). Ended up paying a hefty fine after the civil case but still walked free.

Personally I think 2 yrs ban will be overturned and nothing will happen as we will defend by all means.

Even if it won't and even if we end up in League Two, we will come back. Majority of us seen the club wandering through lower leagues, we will manage, won't we?

But now... Endless trunks of oil money guys, endless trunks. We can buy everyone and everything, like you could when Sky streamlined cash towards United in the 90's.

If it comes to an unlikely event of player exodus, you won't even have a sniff of a single one of them, will you? At this moment in time there are at least 4 clubs in Prem much more attractive for top top top players. None of yours will get nto our or dippers squad.

See you in few weeks after CAS suspends the ban until the case will be looked at...
 
Bluemoon has reached the caf:

Just imagine Sheikh Mansour in a white jeep being chased by the police through Manchester. Months later he shows up in court to reveal that all the money he's spent on City doesn't fit in his wallet and therefore "you must acquit"

Mansour then goes on to write a book "If I cooked the books"
 
My god that place really is the delusional pits of the earth isn't it?

There are genuinely fans on there who believe that along with Manchester City, the other big English clubs (namely our lot and your lot) could (and if not could, then should) band together about this issue of Manchester City being banned for financial doping and 'creative accounting' to tell UEFA to feck off..
Your lot and our lot ARE the two big clubs. City have never been anything, despite their recent winning ways.