Why does the future look like it's been designed by Jonny Ive? The dull minimalism of it all makes it look depressing as feck
Television Black Mirror | Season 6 out June 15th
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With the weekend coming up, I'm finally going to get really started with the new episodes. Watched the first one last week, was pretty good, and will be aiming to watch another three over this weekend. I'm trying to stay off binging these, as I find they have more impact when I give them some time to digest instead of jumping straight to the next.
I think Richter voluntarily went for that type of music, I thought it worked well.
Keep at it, it's not that much of an investment in time for you given how much stuff you watch, and I'm sure there's some you'll like. You didn't watch White Christmas?
Just watched Playtest. Enjoyed it. Not a particularly clever or original premise but a solid little scary short story. Good stuff.
Shut up and dance is brutal. Loved it.
Yes, I'm bingewatching.
Yes, I'm bingewatching.
I'm getting progessively stoned, so this may be the weed talking, but they get better with each episode. Great stuff.
I found this one the most traumatic.
The scene at the end in the 'last room' was a very difficult watch.
(Especially if you've ever had a bad trip where you think you've lost your mind. Flashbacks)
I really enjoy this show but the production is so weirdly over the top. Every episode is like a music video. Over lit, film school visuals.
It was definitely a happy ending in that moment. They referenced that by saying this was the their honeymoon phase. But they also explicitly stated that after a while most dead folks there trying to do outlandish things just to feel something real. Then there is the contrasted sequence of the actual server farm hosting SJ. That's pretty open ended my opinion. The difference between the actual real world physical state and simulation world of SJ.
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My ranking for this season
1. San Junipero
2. Hated in the nation
3. Playtest
4. Nose dive
5. Shut up and dance
6. Men Against Fire
1. San Junipero
2. Hated in the nation
3. Playtest
4. Nose dive
5. Shut up and dance
6. Men Against Fire
1. San Junipero
2. Shut Up and Dance
3. Nose Dive
4. Men Against Fire
5. Hated in the Nation
6. Playtest
Liked them all except for Playtest.
Shut up and Dance...
2. Shut Up and Dance
3. Nose Dive
4. Men Against Fire
5. Hated in the Nation
6. Playtest
Liked them all except for Playtest.
Shut up and Dance...
I'm not sure I buy that Kenny could have killed that guy he had to fight.
15 million merits from the 1st season is perfect and not unrealistic either*. In a future where most work is meaningless, most peoples' only value will be as entertainers.
*Atleast the 1st half. The exercise and the talent show being the way out.
*Atleast the 1st half. The exercise and the talent show being the way out.
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Well I couldn't contain myself, and watched all the episodes over the weekend. No points for delayed gratification!
Interesting, I thought it was quite profound with regards to "the point", but they weren't perhaps as on the nose as you'd expect from a BM episode. How do we protect the principles that have defined the western justice system in a world that is becoming totalitarian thanks to technology? Probably my favourite of the bunch.
Hated in the Nation would probably be next on my list, but I felt some of it was entirely superflous. What was the point of everything that happened with the blonde after the main event? I didn't see any point to it.
Wholeheartedly agree with you when it comes to San Junipero.
They also spent too much time setting building the ruse, considering that everyone who has ever read anything about Black Mirror knew that it was not going to be just the same old story of inconvenient love rehashed.
Interesting, I thought it was quite profound with regards to "the point", but they weren't perhaps as on the nose as you'd expect from a BM episode. How do we protect the principles that have defined the western justice system in a world that is becoming totalitarian thanks to technology? Probably my favourite of the bunch.
Hated in the Nation would probably be next on my list, but I felt some of it was entirely superflous. What was the point of everything that happened with the blonde after the main event? I didn't see any point to it.
Wholeheartedly agree with you when it comes to San Junipero.
They also spent too much time setting building the ruse, considering that everyone who has ever read anything about Black Mirror knew that it was not going to be just the same old story of inconvenient love rehashed.
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Yeah that's what I took from it too. It's a debate that often comes up in the CE forum with regards to online vigilantism and I thought the twist was well hidden and I like being forced to re-examine my own opinion on something in light of new information. Still fecked up though.
I've only seen the first 4 but have enjoyed all of them. I think that's been my favourite so far though. San Junipero was a lovely little story and confusing as feck until the 'twist' was revealed. Tbh I was more shocked that a Black Mirror episode didn't end on a downer.
Yeah, the twist was really good, and it made the episode for me. It was fecked, but at the same time added a necessary layer to the debate:
Is the system we have today, which so heavily depends on people, their flaws and skewed perceptions (a discussion on its own recently popularized by true crime documentaries like Serial and Making a Murderer) really a better alternative than an omnipotent anonymous "thing" (in this episode represented by "anonymous"
) that judges without bias and mercy? By making you to feel empathetic towards the protagonists before the reveal, that point hits even harder.And yes, I agree with you regarding San Junipero, that was perhaps the biggest twist
Enjoyed Hated in the Nation though I thought it was a bit long and maybe could've been done in an hour episode. Didnt like the conclusion (after the hearing), felt completely unnecessary to me. But a lot of the episode was quite brilliant, so yeah. Now I've finished this season, my top 3 would be San Junipero, Shut up and dance and Hated in the nation. The other 3 might depend on when I watched them, not a huge fan of them.
When are the next 6 released?
When are the next 6 released?
I really liked them all. Maybe Nosedive least, for the reasons that have been given in this thread already - that it didnt feel quite such an original concept as a lot of Black Mirror episodes do. But I still enjoyed it a lot.
On the whole I thought it started well and the episodes got better and better.
On the whole I thought it started well and the episodes got better and better.
Hated in the Nation was basically Katie Hopkins and George Osbourne, wasn't it?
I thought Michael Gove would be particularly at risk.
I thought Hated in the Nation was the worst of the lot. Watched half of it and got so bored that I went on wikipedia and read the plot because I didn't have the patience to sit through it.
I thought the Scottish woman from Boardwalk Empire was poorly cast. She didn't play the weary, cynical cop role well at all.
I thought the Scottish woman from Boardwalk Empire was poorly cast. She didn't play the weary, cynical cop role well at all.
I love how opinions differ so strongly on most Black Mirror episodes, it's quite fascinating really.
Is White Christmas the only one that there's a consensus of brilliance about?
Is White Christmas the only one that there's a consensus of brilliance about?
I really liked the episode but I agree with this. She was awful and her character was a bit of a cliche. Half of her lines were basically "Haha you're so naive and technology is silly".
I've enjoyed the series, still got a couple of episodes left to watch. Shut Up and Dance was probably the most enjoyable.. it was similar to the brilliant White Bear, but I also loved the dig at social media in Nosedive - must admit I hate Facebook and folk who are obsessed with getting likes... San Junipero was probably the most aesthetically pleasing, I suspect the majority liked the 'and they lived happily ever after (in some database)' ending. Good watch but I thought it was quite obvious.
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Must be nihilistic knowing that you're trapped in a VR type database or whatever it's called...for infinity. Still... loads of sex before it goes all Morrisey. But anyway ostensibly it was a happy ending.
Yes I don't think there is a consensus best episodes ranking list for BM out there which speaks to the excellent consistency of its episodes.
My personal overall rankings for all BM epis would be -
1) Be Right Back
2) San Junipero
3) 15 Million Merits
4) Entire History of you
5) White Bear
6) White Christmas
7) Hated in the nation
8) National Anthem
9) Playtest
10) Nose dive
11) Shut up and dance
12) Men Against Fire
13) The Waldo Moment
Got to admit that Nosedive did nothing for me. I felt the point was kind of obvious and I just didn't care about the stupid girls ratings.
Did anyone see that show, Cyberbully, on Channel 4 a year or so ago? Shut Up And Dance kind of reminded me of that, but I thought that was a bit better. But yeah, I still enjoyed it.
Just the last one left for me.
Men Against Fire was a bit on the nose for me and I'd guessed the 'twist' within the first 10 minutes. And again, I agree that they seemed to drag it on a tad too long. What did people make of the ending to that one though? Was the tear just to symbolise that he hasn't forgotten what they'd done to him?
Men Against Fire was a bit on the nose for me and I'd guessed the 'twist' within the first 10 minutes. And again, I agree that they seemed to drag it on a tad too long. What did people make of the ending to that one though? Was the tear just to symbolise that he hasn't forgotten what they'd done to him?
Yeah what was the point of that? Looked like it belonged in one of the Bourne films or something.
The last one was ok. Overly long again and a little predictable. Also whoever decided that Kelly McDonalds character should be the most miserable human being since Victor Meldrew needs a slap. Really got on my tits after about 30 minutes.
I watched the originals again the other day, and am I the only one who thinks the Waldo moment has become a lot, lot better in light of recent events?
I used to think it was a bit shit and the premise was stupid, but given the current US Presidential Elections I can't help but think the episode was far cleverer than I gave it credit for.
I used to think it was a bit shit and the premise was stupid, but given the current US Presidential Elections I can't help but think the episode was far cleverer than I gave it credit for.
Meh. Even if you wanna claim it was 'visionary', it wasn't a great piece of television. Lacked subtetly for it to be really interesting, for me.
Also Waldo was just kinda shit and annoying. Trump(while the human cnut machine that he is)has at times by sheer arrogance and stupidity being very entertaining.
I dunno, I just think Waldo being shit and annoying was kind of the point. I just think Brooker was being far more critical of the electorate as well as the politicians themselves than I first realised. It's obviously a comment on how the alternative 'protest candidates' are even more vapid and useless than who they're protesting against, the episode says as much on a few occasions, but the criticism of the electorate for tolerating and promoting them is something I missed first time.
Still, the post-credit scene was terrible and it pretty much ruined the episode, but I think there were a lot more good ideas that went into it than I initially thought even if it didn't really hit all the top notes of other BM episodes.
Finished the first 3 episodes of the third season, I've only liked Shut Up And Dance so far. Doesn't crack my top 3 though:
1. The National Anthem
2. Be Right Back
3. White Bear
The rest all kinda blur together in a sea of entertaining but predictable sci-fi fare.
1. The National Anthem
2. Be Right Back
3. White Bear
The rest all kinda blur together in a sea of entertaining but predictable sci-fi fare.
Some very good episodes in the season and San Junipero was superb I thought
Very bittersweet but you can imagine that kind of technological afterlife replacing religious faith and ideas of heaven
As usual music and direction spot on especially in the end credits....heaven is a place in earth and showing images of the pair frolicking as well as a massive VR server room
Very bittersweet but you can imagine that kind of technological afterlife replacing religious faith and ideas of heaven
As usual music and direction spot on especially in the end credits....heaven is a place in earth and showing images of the pair frolicking as well as a massive VR server room
Just finished that series, Hated In The Nation was the only one that really did anything for me. To me it seems it's always been a feature of Black Mirror that they have clunky dialogue at times, and too many of these new episodes just got sunk by the clunkiness for me. I think Be Right Back is my favourite one, the best episodes manage to get past the clunkiness to have an impact.
Just started watching this. So far the verdict is: Episode 1 is good. 2 is alright. 3 is shit. Ok on average but I expected better considering the hype.
It's been mentioned already on here but watch Community - App Development and Condiments(S5E8)it's the same concept but told better and it's about half the running time as well.
The Kitty app rating episode? How's that related to a hive mind pressure on the primer minister to feck a pig on TV in order to rescue a princess?