Billy No Mates Draft

Renzo De Vecchi
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1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov 6. Monti 7. Tresor 8. Law 9. Gerets 10. 11. 12.
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger 6. Hansen 7. Makelele 8. Sivori 9. Schwarzenbeck 10. 11. 12.
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm 6. Netzer 7. Bossis 8. Vierchowod 9. Busquets 10. 11. 12.
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit 6. Rivera 7. Förster 8. Xabi Alonso 9. del Piero 10. 11. 12.
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek 6. Junior 7. Hierro 8. Coluna 9. V. Andrade 10. 11. 12.
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts 6. Marzolini 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Thiago Silva 9. Ricardo Carvalho 10. 11. 12.
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson 6. Scholes 7. Obdulio Varela 8. Shesternyov 9. Dani Alves 10. 11. 12.
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor 6. Lizarazu 7. Burgnich 8. Costacurta 9. Beckham 10. 11. 12.
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala 6. Hamrin 7. Blokhin 8. Didi 9. Domingos Da Guia 10. 11. 12.
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R. Carlos 6. Neymar 7. Suurbier 8. Vieira 9. Sanchez 10. 11. 12.
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria 6. Bergomi 7. Koeman 8. Ocwirk 9. Voronin 10. De Vecchi 11. 12.
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta 6. Souness 7. Andrade 8. Chumpitaz 9. Greaves 10. Finney 11. 12.
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster 7. Cabrini 8. Tigana 9. Schulz 10. John Charles 11. 12.
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio 7. McGrath 8. Yashin 9. Kopa 10. Eto'o 11. 12.
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs 7. J. A. Camacho 8. Effenberg 9.Gerson 10. Ruggeri 11. 12.
16. Invictus/Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Gento 6. Cannavaro. 7. Briegel 8. Stam 9. Meazza 10. Neuer 11. 12.

@RedTiger @Marty1968
 
Really? I'll have to put some extra work into the write up so!
Have to say, I know absolutely nothing about him, mate. Not sure if you can dig up some videos as well. But really need to describe him well I think.
 
It will be interesting first round I can see a lot of nice clashes. I really like harms and tuppet's teams wonder how they will line up.

diarm's team is also excellent going forward but has to put extra effort into the write up for the midfield pair and defence as I think not many of those are familiar for all, but I really like that front combo.

Aldo also have built a solid team.

Not much difference into most teams. Will be really tight.
 
System fit pick, still class and belongs in this company for my money, plus, look at the mullet on him.

Gheorghe Popescu

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1. Joga Bonito
- 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov 6. Monti 7. Tresor 8. Law 9. Gerets 10. 11. 12.
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger 6. Hansen 7. Makelele 8. Sivori 9. Schwarzenbeck 10. 11. 12.
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm 6. Netzer 7. Bossis 8. Vierchowod 9. Busquets 10. 11. 12.
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit 6. Rivera 7. Förster 8. Xabi Alonso 9. del Piero 10. 11. 12.
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek 6. Junior 7. Hierro 8. Coluna 9. V. Andrade 10. 11. 12.
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts 6. Marzolini 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Thiago Silva 9. Ricardo Carvalho 10. 11. 12.
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson 6. Scholes 7. Obdulio Varela 8. Shesternyov 9. Dani Alves 10. 11. 12.
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor 6. Lizarazu 7. Burgnich 8. Costacurta 9. Beckham 10. 11. 12.
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala 6. Hamrin 7. Blokhin 8. Didi 9. Domingos Da Guia 10. Popescu 11. 12.
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R. Carlos 6. Neymar 7. Suurbier 8. Vieira 9. Sanchez 10. Ayala 11. 12.
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria 6. Bergomi 7. Koeman 8. Ocwirk 9. Voronin 10. De Vecchi 11. 12.
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta 6. Souness 7. Andrade 8. Chumpitaz 9. Greaves 10. Finney 11. 12.
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster 7. Cabrini 8. Tigana 9. Schulz 10. John Charles 11. 12.
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio 7. McGrath 8. Yashin 9. Kopa 10. Eto'o 11. 12.
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs 7. J. A. Camacho 8. Effenberg 9.Gerson 10. Ruggeri 11. 12.
16. Invictus/Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Gento 6. Cannavaro. 7. Briegel 8. Stam 9. Meazza 10. Neuer 11. 12.

@Balu @crappycraperson
 
By the way, outstanding research from @Šjor Bepo and @VivaJanuzaj on the Schnellinger/Schwarzenbeck combo. Was sure they must have played together for West Germany but turns out that whilst they both played in 1971 for West Germany they never played in the same games. When Schnellinger played Schwarzenbeck didn't and vice versa.

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Good work chaps!
 
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Banks

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov 6. Monti 7. Tresor 8. Law 9. Gerets 10. 11. 12.
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger 6. Hansen 7. Makelele 8. Sivori 9. Schwarzenbeck 10. 11. 12.
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm 6. Netzer 7. Bossis 8. Vierchowod 9. Busquets 10. 11. 12.
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit 6. Rivera 7. Förster 8. Xabi Alonso 9. del Piero 10. 11. 12.
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek 6. Junior 7. Hierro 8. Coluna 9. V. Andrade 10. 11. 12.
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts 6. Marzolini 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Thiago Silva 9. Ricardo Carvalho 10. 11. 12.
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson 6. Scholes 7. Obdulio Varela 8. Shesternyov 9. Dani Alves 10. 11. 12.
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor 6. Lizarazu 7. Burgnich 8. Costacurta 9. Beckham 10. Gordon Banks 11. 12.
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala 6. Hamrin 7. Blokhin 8. Didi 9. Domingos Da Guia 10. Popescu 11. 12.
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R. Carlos 6. Neymar 7. Suurbier 8. Vieira 9. Sanchez 10. Ayala 11. 12.
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria 6. Bergomi 7. Koeman 8. Ocwirk 9. Voronin 10. De Vecchi 11. 12.
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta 6. Souness 7. Andrade 8. Chumpitaz 9. Greaves 10. Finney 11. 12.
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster 7. Cabrini 8. Tigana 9. Schulz 10. John Charles 11. 12.
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio 7. McGrath 8. Yashin 9. Kopa 10. Eto'o 11. 12.
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs 7. J. A. Camacho 8. Effenberg 9.Gerson 10. Ruggeri 11. 12.
16. Invictus/Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Gento 6. Cannavaro. 7. Briegel 8. Stam 9. Meazza 10. Neuer 11. 12.
 
By the way, outstanding research from @Šjor Bepo and @VivaJanuzaj on the Schnellinger/Schwarzenbeck combo. Was sure they must have played together for West Germany but turns out that whilst they both played in 1971 for West Germany they never played in the same games. When Schnellinger played Schwarzenbeck didn't and vice versa.

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Good work chaps!

Just to clarify the playing together at international level is being in the same squad for a major tournament: in this case the World Cup and the Euros. Even if they had played in the same game outside of there they would be legitimate to play together. This was done to make it easy to research and also the big partnerships are only recognised at major tournaments so allowing the odd game to go is fine.
 
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1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov 6. Monti 7. Tresor 8. Law 9. Gerets 10. 11. 12.
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger 6. Hansen 7. Makelele 8. Sivori 9. Schwarzenbeck 10. 11. 12.
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm 6. Netzer 7. Bossis 8. Vierchowod 9. Busquets 10. 11. 12.
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit 6. Rivera 7. Förster 8. Xabi Alonso 9. Del Piero 10. 11. 12.
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek 6. Junior 7. Hierro 8. Coluna 9. V. Andrade 10. 11. 12.
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts 6. Marzolini 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Thiago Silva 9. Ricardo Carvalho 10. 11. 12.
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson 6. Scholes 7. Obdulio Varela 8. Shesternyov 9. Dani Alves 10. Ricardo Zamora 11. 12.
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor 6. Lizarazu 7. Burgnich 8. Costacurta 9. Beckham 10. Gordon Banks 11. 12.
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala 6. Hamrin 7. Blokhin 8. Didi 9. Domingos Da Guia 10. Popescu 11. 12.
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R. Carlos 6. Neymar 7. Suurbier 8. Vieira 9. Sanchez 10. Ayala 11. 12.
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria 6. Bergomi 7. Koeman 8. Ocwirk 9. Voronin 10. De Vecchi 11. 12.
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta 6. Souness 7. Andrade 8. Chumpitaz 9. Greaves 10. Finney 11. 12.
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster 7. Cabrini 8. Tigana 9. Schulz 10. John Charles 11. 12.
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio 7. McGrath 8. Yashin 9. Kopa 10. Eto'o 11. 12.
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs 7. J. A. Camacho 8. Effenberg 9. Gerson 10. Ruggeri 11. 12.
16. Invictus/Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Gento 6. Cannavaro. 7. Briegel 8. Stam 9. Meazza 10. Neuer 11. 12.

@Physiocrat
 
Nah I think they will be fine, just wondering at the setup if they will be used in zonal or man marking :)
Got a few options with Matthaus in the team as well. Would like to use him in his best position (i.e a true box-to-box mid) but has the ability to drop deep into the back line if need be. Hoping that our 12th round pick will give us a few formation options...will be the steal of the round if he lasts that long!
 
Be interesting to see how De Vecchi fares. He's the oldest/earliest player in the draft (the older, the trickier, one could say) and has no WC history (unlike Andrade Sr).

He's a legendary player, though - and it should be possible to make a case for him. Source material could be problematic - or rather, it could be problematic to dig up something substantial in English.

Nice pick, though - always good to see new (and very old) players introduced.
 
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Christian Vieri

1. Joga Bonito - 1. Maradona 2. Krol 3. Thuram 4. Breitner 5. Stoichkov 6. Monti 7. Tresor 8. Law 9. Gerets 10. 11. 12.
2. Sjor Bepo/Viva Januzaj - 1. Messi 2. Keane 3. Charlton 4. Djalma Santos 5. Schnellinger 6. Hansen 7. Makelele 8. Sivori 9. Schwarzenbeck 10. 11. 12.
3. harms - 1. Pelé 2. P. Falcão 3. Rummenigge 4. Ferdinand 5. Lahm 6. Netzer 7. Bossis 8. Vierchowod 9. Busquets 10. 11. 12.
4. mazhar13 - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Nilton Santos 3. Desailly 4. Conti 5. Gullit 6. Rivera 7. Förster 8. Xabi Alonso 9. Del Piero 10. 11. 12.
5. Tuppet - 1. Alfredo Di Stéfano 2. Gerd Muller 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Boniek 6. Junior 7. Hierro 8. Coluna 9. V. Andrade 10. 11. 12.
6. Physiocrat - 1. Best 2. Neeskens 3. Luis Suarez Miramontes 4. Rivaldo 5. Vogts 6. Marzolini 7. Schweinsteiger 8. Thiago Silva 9. Ricardo Carvalho 10. Vieri 11. 12.
7. The Stain - 1. Luis Ronaldo 2. Džajić 3. Kohler 4. Nedved 5. Robson 6. Scholes 7. Obdulio Varela 8. Shesternyov 9. Dani Alves 10. Ricardo Zamora 11. 12.
8. Balu/crappy- 1. Eusébio 2. Scirea 3. Masopust 4. D. Edwards 5. Czibor 6. Lizarazu 7. Burgnich 8. Costacurta 9. Beckham 10. Gordon Banks 11. 12.
9. Stobzilla - 1. Maldini 2. Moore 3. Carlos Alberto 4. M. Laudrup 5. Kubala 6. Hamrin 7. Blokhin 8. Didi 9. Domingos Da Guia 10. Popescu 11. 12.
10. RedTiger/Marty1968 - 1. Puskas 2. Matthaus 3. Gentile 4. Matthews 5. R. Carlos 6. Neymar 7. Suurbier 8. Vieira 9. Sanchez 10. Ayala 11. 12.
11. diarm - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Zidane 3. Ronaldinho 4. Batistuta 5. Santamaria 6. Bergomi 7. Koeman 8. Ocwirk 9. Voronin 10. De Vecchi 11. 12.
12. Gio - 1. Zico 2. Facchetti 3. Nesta 4. Bozsik 5. Iniesta 6. Souness 7. Andrade 8. Chumpitaz 9. Greaves 10. Finney 11. 12.
13. Aldo - 1. Garrincha 2. Romário 3. Rivelino 4. Zanetti 5. Xavi 6. Schuster 7. Cabrini 8. Tigana 9. Schulz 10. John Charles 11. 12.
14. EAP/Pat/Skizzo - 1. Figueroa 2. Rijkaard 3. van Hanegem 4. Brehme 5. Cafu 6. Baggio 7. McGrath 8. Yashin 9. Kopa 10. Eto'o 11. 12.
15. Enigma_87/MJJ - 1. Johan Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Figo 4. Henry 5. Amoros 6. Giggs 7. J. A. Camacho 8. Effenberg 9. Gerson 10. Ruggeri 11. 12.
16. Invictus/Theon - 1. Platini 2. Van Basten 3. Sammer 4. Redondo 5. Gento 6. Cannavaro. 7. Briegel 8. Stam 9. Meazza 10. Neuer 11. 12.

@Tuppet
 
Be interesting to see how De Vecchi fares. He's the oldest/earliest player in the draft (the older, the trickier, one could say) and has no WC history (unlike Andrade Sr).
Yeah, the 30's WC generation (Andrade Sr, Meazza, Zamora) is a bit easier to sell. But like you wrote, it's always good to see new players introduced. Definitely looking forward to the write-up about De Vecchi.
 
Got a few options with Matthaus in the team as well. Would like to use him in his best position (i.e a true box-to-box mid) but has the ability to drop deep into the back line if need be. Hoping that our 12th round pick will give us a few formation options...will be the steal of the round if he lasts that long!
Yeah, good thing for Matthaus is that he gives a lot of options. I agree that B2B is his best.
 
Interesting pick. Much better strikers out there still in my view. :wenger:


Outside of the top tier of strikers (MVB, Batigol, Romario, Ronaldo, Puskas, Eusebio, Di Stefano and G Muller) there's not that much between the next level of strikers and think Vieri will fit my system perfectly (I had three others in mind too) That said I could have missed someone.
 
Outside of the top tier of strikers (MVB, Batigol, Romario, Ronaldo, Puskas, Eusebio, Di Stefano and G Muller) there's not that much between the next level of strikers and think Vieri will fit my system perfectly (I had three others in mind too) That said I could have missed someone.
No doubt about his quality but I was thinking he wouldn't be picked in this draft, he played for half of Serie A clubs in the 90s, don't even know who all he's blocking. :D
 
No doubt about his quality but I was thinking he wouldn't be picked in this draft, he played for half of Serie A clubs in the 90s, don't even know who all he's blocking. :D

I could have shot myself in the foot for reinforcements but I'm just hoping to make it to the second round for the first time on my own in a mains draft.
 
Outside of the top tier of strikers (MVB, Batigol, Romario, Ronaldo, Puskas, Eusebio, Di Stefano and G Muller) there's not that much between the next level of strikers and think Vieri will fit my system perfectly (I had three others in mind too) That said I could have missed someone.
There is another striker in the top tier imo