And in todays world VAR can't overturn it either
Biggest ref's mistakes against/in favour United?
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As deliberate and dangerous as they come. Feck me, what a despicable cnut.
Roy Carroll against Spurs easily the biggest howler. Cuneyt Cakir though, he will live in my head forever.
Ronaldo getting cleaned out by Distin in the penalty box during our FA cup semi final against Portsmouth in 07/08. Possibly denied us a treble
They'd have crushed us regardless,
But wasn't Giggs offside for the Rooney goal in the CL final against Barca in 2011?
But wasn't Giggs offside for the Rooney goal in the CL final against Barca in 2011?
No, it was denial of a goal scoring opportunity. I was adamant post match that it would get overturned, there was clear video evidence that he won the ball first. I think partly the reason it didn’t was because Barcelona tried a couple of appeals for players suspended too.
This was the excuse given. Disgraceful really
A Uefa spokesman said, "the protest is only admissible if the referee made an error and mistakenly identified and cautioned or sent off the wrong player."
Nah, the added minutes in that Sheffield Wednesday game were entirely justified, even in the context of that era. For a start, the original referee got injured and had to be replaced, which by itself took up a fair few minutes. That detail seems to have been airbrushed from history, but I’m sure many on here will recall it.
Edit: just realised the ref replacement has already been referred to.
Yep. Clear offside
Yeah - one of the weirdest decisions in one of those games that I've ever seen was, we had a free kick, an Arsenal player ran up and blocked it from the spot it was being taken, didn't get booked, THEIR PLAYERS SURROUNDED THE REFEREE, stoped us taking the free kick again (of course not from 10 yards away, about 2!!!) and then broke up our attack. It was completely batshit insane - the free kick as I recall was stonewall from one of their many hatchet men too. That was in the 2000's at some point, I can't remember the game in question but we had a lot of fiery ones.
Without that mistake, the replay might have never taken place, so it was a great decision by the referee!
I think the disallowing of the Scholes go was one of the biggest sliding doors moments in football over the past couple of decades. Aside from the fact it cost us a strong chance at winning the champions league, there were many other linked events that may or may not have happened: Would Sir Alex have retired earlier, would Jose have been as highly rated and gone on to what he did, would we have built from Champs League winners to win 1, 2 more over the next few seasons, would some of the Porto players got the moves they did. That awful decision effectively had a massive influence on European and World football for years to come.
Just watched it back - looks level to me. Commentator even says "to Giggs, who is onside"
That was really bizarre, because he was through 121 with the keeper and could easily score. There was absolutely no reason to dive.
Martial Vs Tottenham is a recent one that really got me going.
Porto decisions that year were ridiculous.
2 non existent red cards against Deportivo as well
I think he's referring to the red card when Eric lamela provoked him and then dived ... I think, I may have tried abolishing that game from my memory (and the countless of times we got battered under Ole).
Absolutely believe you/him and it doesn't surprise me at all.
Noticed he wasn't giving us anything probably a decade ago now and taken special notice of him every game since. Some absolutely mental decisions. He's the one who sent off Di Maria for the tap on the back when Joe Hart full on nutted him with no ramifications. Awarded Watford a goal against us after they'd injured Martial to an extent he was out a few months. But it's not even these individual moments, it'll be every single game consistently, is there a stat for how many penalties he's awarded against us because it's been loads, and I don't remember a single one he's given us - always waves them away. Same with red cards.
I can't remember the game fully any more other than us ending up with Rio Ferdinand in goal? But that FA Cup game against Portsmouth is one of the worst. I'd have to watch highlights again but I'm convinced they got the rub of the green on a lot of decisions that day. Maybe I'm just bitter that we had poor finishing that day on top after dominating.
We would have won the treble again.
We would have won the treble again.
That was such a shame it was blatantly offside cos it really took the gloss of such a glorious goal. Giroud scoring a way better one the next week didn't help either.
The Roy Carroll one versus Spurs was one of the worst decisions ever though. I remember watching it with Spurs and Chelsea supporting mates and being really pissed when it went in, but then they just kept playing and playing, and we somehow got away with it, turning the Spurs lad livid
Yeah, they kind of cancelled each other out at least.
The one I always remember is the 2008 FA Cup QF against Portsmouth where Ronaldo was cleaned out in the box by Distin after only a few minutes. At the time the commentators said "defender shoulder charge", but for me he got into a bad position where Ronaldo's pace was taking him clean past and Distin just runs across and blocks. We were so dominant that game, the early goal I think would have been decisive. The main reason I remember it so clearly was because that FA Cup from the SF was so weak (Portsmouth, WBA, Barnsley, Cardiff) that we would have been massive favourites and it would have been another treble.
Edit: Just noticed above @Havak mentioned the same game.
Edit: Just noticed above @Havak mentioned the same game.
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Pretty sure he means the incident where Martial was sent off for retaliating to a Spurs player whose initial contact on him was worse than the response Martial was sent off for. We went on to lose heavily in that game, too.
Martin Atkinson robbed us from the treble.
I always wondered why Atkinson as never banned for being the ref in our games. Leeds scum, it was always something going on with him against us.
Nani red card v Real
Rafael v Leicester
Drogba offside goal to win the title
All three decisions changed careers and were so obviously wrong.
Martial getting sent off against Spurs was a recent one too.
Rafael v Leicester
Drogba offside goal to win the title
All three decisions changed careers and were so obviously wrong.
Martial getting sent off against Spurs was a recent one too.
That Nani red card. I genuinely thought we were going to win the UCL that season if we had beat them with RVP scoring the winner in the final!
Against: obviously the Nani red against Real in 13 aldo the ref was probably just lookin for an excuse when things werent going Reals way and it wasnt a mistake but a robbery
For: The Caroll mistake aldo the ref could not have seen that and it was an honest mistake
For: The Caroll mistake aldo the ref could not have seen that and it was an honest mistake
In the same game Spurs player should have been sent off within first 10 mins for the attempted leg breaker on Ronaldo, lucky to play with 11 entire game.
Penalty call v Portsmouth in the semi final with a second treble still alive.
absolute stone wall penalty for us. Forget who was involved
absolute stone wall penalty for us. Forget who was involved
I don't think it was of any major importance but I do recall Ole tripping over a sprinkler once with no opposition player near him and we got a free kick for that
I remember this. We won at the end, right?
Yes, iirc we scored from the retake too.
Michael Ball stamping Ronaldo in the stomach in the 06/07 season away to City. Despicable cnut of a man.
Didn't end up costing us anything, but was a horrendous act.
Didn't end up costing us anything, but was a horrendous act.
1976 FA Cup Final. Still offside that.
The penalty against Martinez this season was a joke.
Eric’s red against Palace in 95, harsh.
The penalty against Martinez this season was a joke.
Eric’s red against Palace in 95, harsh.
Taking a contrarian view on Evans kick and the drogba offside, which both happened in the same season:
The away game had an extremely blatant penalty by Terry on Valencia not given, about 20 minutes in at 0-0. There was also a wrong offside call against (I think) Rooney. Finally Chelsea's winner from a free kick was also wrong - either the free kick was wrong, or it was slightly offside, can't remember.
So the lack of sending off for Evans more than made up for by the rest of the terrible decisions.
The home game is simple: drogba's goal was offside, macheda's goal was handball.
The away game had an extremely blatant penalty by Terry on Valencia not given, about 20 minutes in at 0-0. There was also a wrong offside call against (I think) Rooney. Finally Chelsea's winner from a free kick was also wrong - either the free kick was wrong, or it was slightly offside, can't remember.
So the lack of sending off for Evans more than made up for by the rest of the terrible decisions.
The home game is simple: drogba's goal was offside, macheda's goal was handball.
Funny. We all remember stuff which happened 20 years ago but we all forgot how Taylor fecked up with the wall when Villa scored from free kick.