Biggest ref's mistakes against/in favour United?

In the 5-2 v Tottenham at OT our 1st goal was from a penalty where their keeper tackled Carrick and pretty clearly got ball 1st.

The game at OT where Drogba scored when miles offside I think we scored shortly after through Macheda with a clear handball.
 
Spaghetti said:
Who scored the scorpion kick? Was it Mkhitaryan? Miles offside!

The 6 added minutes against Wednesday in 1993 were generous and unusual for the time.
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I think the ref got injured and replaced by the linesman was was pretty unusual and would have taken a few minutes I’m sure to sort out, on top of usual added time for subs, etc.
 
theknoker said:
I think the ref got injured and replaced by the linesman was was pretty unusual and would have taken a few minutes I’m sure to sort out, on top of usual added time for subs, etc.
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Yeah you are right, it just wasn’t common at the time. We also didn’t have the boards to say how long it would be, which gave the added impression of “play until United score”, and probably the birth of “Fergie time”.
 
Shane88 said:
Nani's goal against Spurs. If that had gone against us, we would've wanted blood.
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The quick thinking from Scholes one? Nothing wrong with it was there? gomes assumed it was a freekick and it wasn't given.

I think it should've been a freekick iirc, but you play to the whistle.

Edit: Just rewatched it. It was a handball, so a freekick to Spurs. But no whistle, linesmen doesn't flag and Gomes moves the ball forward 10 yards to take it. Obviously the wrong decision but stupidity from Gomes really.
 
Any game that Martin Atkinson been a ref in, or even assistant ref like he was against Arsenal in 2003 at Highbury when he gave them two offside goals. Even back then it was clear how much he wanted us to lose.
 
I always remember 2004/5 and the wonderful end of Arsenal's unbeaten run, when the Nevilles kicked Reyes and a few others off the park. Both probably should have seen red.
 
Man-United said:
Any game that Martin Atkinson been a ref in, or even assistant ref like he was against Arsenal in 2003 at Highbury when he gave them two offside goals. Even back then it was clear how much he wanted us to lose.
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Was immediately thinking of a couple at Stamford Bridge from 2009-12ish with him reffing and you just knew we'd lose and he'd play his part in that.
 
Can’t remember the year but carragher opened up Nani’s shin at anfield and I’m not even sure he got booked.
Remember that one as had a heated argument with a Liverpool supporting friend I was watching the game with about it.
I don’t watch footy matches with him any more
 
The Purley King said:
Can’t remember the year but carragher opened up Nani’s shin at anfield and I’m not even sure he got booked.
Remember that one as had a heated argument with a Liverpool supporting friend I was watching the game with about it.
I don’t watch footy matches with him any more
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I think it was the 2010-11. We had a big lead until 2 matches at Chelsea and Liverpool away and we lost both. I think Kuyt had a hattrick in that match against Liverpool, if I remember correctly.

Carragher made that bad challenge and it did seem to be an obvious red.
 
I think Klopp mentioned Valencia being offside for a goal at one point.
 
The Scholes decision vs Porto is what I came to post, would have won the CL that year.
 
This thread has highlighted to me how I often block out decisions that go for us but still have searing pain about some of the decisions against us like Drogba and Nani. I think the Nani one hurts the most out of any of them because it was Fergie's last run at the CL and we were the better side. Jose and Fergie's reactions made more sense once that context came to light.

I really want us to face and beat Real in the CL some time soon.
 
I don't think our wrongly disallowed goal against Milan in the European Cup semi final has been mentioned yet.

It's obviously before my time but it pains me to know that that iconic team could have achieved so much more and still got relegated to one time winners , Milan would go on to win their second title easily beating an inexperience ajax side with a certain johan in the final, United would shortly thereafter collapse in form and our talisman would meet a steep and fast decline, we would be relegated just a few years after.
 
Didn't Fellaini smash Zabaleta with an elbow in a pretty important game?

Worst I've seen is Henry's offside goal vs United at Highbury (2002?). Shocker.
 
Peter McParland assaulting Ray Wood in the 1957 FA Cup Final.

Nat Lofthouse barging Harry Gregg in the back in the 1958 FA Cup Final.

Bobby Stokes offside goal in the 1976 FA Cup Final

Denis Law's goal in the 1969 European Cup semi-final v AC Milan not being given

Estudiantes kicking us off the park in the 1968 Intercontinental Cup...sending off Nobby Stiles for being offside!
 
The OP mentions the Chicarito offside goal. In that same match Torres was cleaned out of it, as clear as day. He got a 2nd yellow for diving and they were down to 9.

The Nani red card still annoys me to this day.
 
In favour: that clear goal that Roy Carroll supposedly pushed off the line after fumbling a save against Spurs.

Against: Nani's red card against Real which cost Fergie his last shot at winning the CL.
 
That screamer Pogba scored vs West Ham, where it went out for a throw initially. Moyes went mad, was v funny at the time!
 
There was a period where Vidic was getting away with blatant penalties at Old Trafford almost every game.

The one that annoys me, and I am almost certain still pisses Rio off was a scandalous penalty given against him at Old Trafford vs Newcastle. I think that was the only time Rio gave one away in his career and I think we drew the game as a result, and it was never a pen.
 
M Bison said:
That screamer Pogba scored vs West Ham, where it went out for a throw initially. Moyes went mad, was v funny at the time!
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I don’t think there was ever clear evidence either way of that ball being out.
 
There was this game some time in the 90s, where David Elleray disallowed a Roy Keane goal in absurd fashion. What happened was, Giggs had the ball down the left, played it one side of the defender, ran the other side and crossed it for Keane. The linesman flagged for an offside on Keane when Giggs played the ball to himself by the touchline. Keane was thirty yards away and the ball was moving at a 90 degrees angle to his direction.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I watched highlights against Porto in CL 2004 and Fergie said after that game that ref cost us CL that year. So i am trying to remember when else refs had a mare in our games.
I will add best (and clear examples) after you post them:
Against us:
1) Scholes goal vs Porto
2) Nani's red card vs Real
3) Rafael's red card vs Bayern (ok, that decision was 50:50)
4) Drogba goal from offside when we lost a PL title because of it
5) penalty vs Sociedad
6) Fletcher red card in CL
7) Penalty for Boro in cup game

In our favour;
1) Chicharito goal against Chelsea from offside in 4:3 win plus Torres second yellow for diving
2) Carrol vs Spurs
3) Scholes not sent off vs Wigan
4) Rooney elbow vs Wigan
5) Evans karate kick on Drogba
6) Maguire not sent off vs Chelsea for kicking a player
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That should be in the against us column. Only joking.
 
The Purley King said:
Can’t remember the year but carragher opened up Nani’s shin at anfield and I’m not even sure he got booked.
Remember that one as had a heated argument with a Liverpool supporting friend I was watching the game with about it.
I don’t watch footy matches with him any more
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He got booked, but very definitely should have been red.

Because Nani got up, because the shock / adrenaline was masking the pain, people think he was being soft. But the fact he actually came off, and was out for a few games after showed it wasn't exactly fake.
 
M Bison said:
That screamer Pogba scored vs West Ham, where it went out for a throw initially. Moyes went mad, was v funny at the time!
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You couldn't prove it had gone out, that was the whole point.
Just because Moyes reckoned it had, doesn't make it so.

We could write a whole thread about other stuff Moyes reckoned.
 
AGAINST US

That Leicester 5-3 defeat where Vardy utterly barged Rafael off the ball, and then the ref saw Rafael steaming in and assumed he'd fouled Vardy who fell over, when in reality he hadn't touched him.

That was part of Clattenberg's little spell of trying to show us who was boss post Fergie.

That game should be high up the list, as that was the game where Van Gaal threw off the entertaining style of football, and reverted to an utterly sh!te thrillless one.

Also seen in giving that pen at Old Trafford for Sturridge diving against Vidic.
 
The best one was scoring a goal after the final whistle.

That was the best of all!
 
MrSingh2002 said:
The best one was scoring a goal after the final whistle.

That was the best of all!
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That wasn't a mistake though. The perception that we "got a penalty after the game had ended" pissed off rival fans massively though, which was a huge bonus.
 
Against - see any match Michael Oliver has refereed

Standard of refereeing is so poor. But he’s the only one I would say is actually bias against United

He is the VAR man on Saturday so expect controversy
 
Andycoleno9 said:
3) Rafael's red card vs Bayern (ok, that decision was 50:50)
4) Drogba goal from offside when we lost a PL title because of it
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3) I'm not sure what people want the ref to do about Rafael. It's a textbook yellow card, professional foul to stop a dangerous attack. He should have been subbed at half time, everyone watching the game knew he was 1 moment away from a 2nd yellow.

4) Against Chelsea, Macheda threw the ball into the net with his hand for our goal, so if we discount all illegal goals Chelsea still win 1-0. It's also worth mentioning that we were absolutely dreadful in that game and deserved to lose.
 
Against us

David Elleray sending off Denis Irwin for allegedly kicking the ball away, after he made a genuine attempt to keep the ball in play and launch an attack down the left flank at Anfield.
 
There was a Michael Brown challenge on Giggs years ago which is one of the worst I've ever seen, two-footed leg-breaker. And he didn't get sent off.
Ah thank you internet:

Also, Gary Neville got sent off once for flicking the ball gently into the crowd. I personally think he was aiming at the advertising thing and missed, but the only time I've seen someone sent off for that, despite strikers and attackers doing it all the time at great pace when offside or similar.

Not United related, but when RVP got sent off in the CL for scoring when offside is still a milestone in referee-ing idiocy.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Against - see any match Michael Oliver has refereed

Standard of refereeing is so poor. But he’s the only one I would say is actually bias against United

He is the VAR man on Saturday so expect controversy
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https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/whi...r-league-referees-support/bltc5a6db7933177b98

That's a little list of what teams the referees support and it has a little snippet of Oliver saying he can't ref Newcastle games or teams around Newcastle in a relegation battle so why on earth is he anywhere near our games when we are in a top 4 battle with Newcastle ?

The prick still holds a grudge against us from the 90's that's why we get feck all from him every time he refs a game for us.

A lad i work with is originally from Newcastle and one of his mates had a pint with Oliver and he confirmed how much he hates us, the fecker should be no where near our games.
 
Cpt Negative said:
Yeah this one is up there for me. Fletcher was in the form of his life at that point and would have been first name on team sheet for Rome. I’m still baffled how we appealed the red card and it was rejected.

In the season we lost the league on goal difference. We lost 1-0 to Wigan with about 5 games to go. I remember a very very blatant penalty for handball not being given
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It was 2 yellows and you can't appeal a yellow card..

Edit: just looked it up, apparently it was a straight red. This a proper Mandela effect for me, certain is was a second yellow and that's why the appeal failed.
 
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