Equilibrium is a great movie....
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Equilibrium is a great movie....
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Yeah if the only thing that requires you to be a best actor is saying miothafecka
Thats just cause he's a fecking master. He's in everything and he's always a bad ass. From Jurassic Park - Pulp Fiction.
Jurassic Park come on, great movie but if you give it to him you have to give to J. goldblum, enough said I think
Goldblum gets the award for the least dynamic character ever, but he did fit the part in Jurassic Park. Personally my I liked Newman from Seinfeld's character best. I'm not sure of his real name though .
Bale is superb in Rescue Dawn
Film actors broadly fall into two types... those with variety who perfectly mimic or invent mannerisms, take on loads of different characters and are convincing in all of them... and those who hardly do anything, tend to play the same character over and over, and become archetypal heros rather than characters as such.
Category 1 includes the likes of Depp, Hoffman, Pacino, Forest Whitaker
Category 2, actors like Harrison Ford, Tim Robbins and Tom Cruise (though his only really great performance was in Rain Man)
There don't seem to be any of the old-style, man's man type leading actors left, who had real gravitas as well as looks... the likes of Brando, Gregory Peck, John Wayne. Russell Crowe has the gravitas (just about) but not the looks, George Clooney has the looks but not the gravitas. Brad Pitt's just a mediocre actor. Clive Owen's a terrible actor.
Film actors broadly fall into two types... those with variety who perfectly mimic or invent mannerisms, take on loads of different characters and are convincing in all of them... and those who hardly do anything, tend to play the same character over and over, and become archetypal heros rather than characters as such.
Category 1 includes the likes of Depp, Hoffman, Pacino, Forest Whitaker
Category 2, actors like Harrison Ford, Tim Robbins and Tom Cruise (though his only really great performance was in Rain Man)
There don't seem to be any of the old-style, man's man type leading actors left, who had real gravitas as well as looks... the likes of Brando, Gregory Peck, John Wayne. Russell Crowe has the gravitas (just about) but not the looks, George Clooney has the looks but not the gravitas. Brad Pitt's just a mediocre actor. Clive Owen's a terrible actor.
Really? He was good as he always is but the film was pretty rubbish.
I always thought that Brad Pitt did a great job in Fight Club. Well, I watched it again last night, and to be honest, his role is very easy and he does a bad job at it. The speech he did in the bar about "people being the bi-product of the consumer world" would have been legendary if someone else delivered it. Great movie, although I fear the dark and dirty atmosphere it creates is very typical of the era. (See the Max Payne games to capture the very essence of what I am talking about). Whether it will be a great classic or a cult movie in 50 years is 50/50.
Anyway, Brad Pitt was really bad in Fight Club. I am scared to watch Seven again if he is going to ruin it for me. I remember him doing a good job on that one.
No longer a rumour dude, its now official. Bale has signed for Terminator 4.
I just hope this doesn't stop him playing Batman in the third Nolan Batman movie
I liked it, not as much as Herzog's other stuff, and the bookends in the aircraft carrier were awful... but it had me on the edge of my seat pretty much all the way through. Reminded me a bit of Apocalypto, not as good, but there's a lot to be said for just filming a bloke running away through a forest... seems to tap into something in us.
I still haven't seen Fight Club, for some reason. Seven was what did it for me, Pitt was fine in things like Thelma and Louise, where he could be stylish and superficial... in Seven he was just a million miles too lightweight for that film. Especially next to Freeman.
I was disappointed. It was what it was... bloke hacking his way though the jungle against all odds. Bookends done with no irony, not a hint of a quizzical eyebrow.
Brando's probably the greatest ever, followed by the likes of Pacino, De Niro, Nicholson, Peck, Olivier(some say the best) Hoffman etc etc. Bogart was good too, but he always played the same role, but unlike say Freeman, he had a lot of personality which shone through in all his films. As for actresses, Vivien Leigh in Streetcar Named Desire and Gloria Swanson in Sunset Boulavard were probably as it good as it gets.
Not entirely without irony... "What is full, empty, what is empty, fill, what is itchy, scratch"... but yeah, those bits were crap... sop for American cash I reckon
He was a curious mix of amorality and this great generous personality... having been bombed as a kid, how could he just nonchalently dump his bombs on Laotian villages? But I don't think Herzog's that interested in that, I think he's obsessed with the inner spirit of men revealing itself in moments of transcendent suffering... Ladies and gentlemen: the Germans.
Have you seen "Grizzly Man"? Some similarities, but that's a terrific film
He was a curious mix of amorality and this great generous personality... having been bombed as a kid, how could he just nonchalently dump his bombs on Laotian villages? But I don't think Herzog's that interested in that, I think he's obsessed with the inner spirit of men revealing itself in moments of transcendent suffering... Ladies and gentlemen: the Germans.
Have you seen "Grizzly Man"? Some similarities, but that's a terrific film
I've been planning to watch some films by Werner Herzog. But I probably won't until there aren't any other films to watch.
Newman was pretty fantastic too.
Agreed re Brando. Have you seen him in Julius Caesar? He's the business.
Swanson was brilliant in that film, haven't seen her silent stuff.
He had the lot didn't he? amazing on screen presence, some actors I feel have a huge on screen presence, but perhaps aren't great actors, Bogart probably fits into this category. Brando, however had both. I haven't seen Julius Caesar, I'll probably check it out. Oh and watch Streetcar Named Desire, Plech. Vivian Leigh was probably as good as Swanson was in Sunset Boulevard.
The Oscars are not too far away, and with what you have seen so far, which actors should be nominated, and for which movies.
Well, for me American Gangster had two very strong performances by Denzel Washington and Russel Crowe. Denzel's is probably Oscar nomination worthy.
Adam Sandler probably won't be nominated, but he deserves it for Reign Over Me. I don't think the Acadamy takes him seriously enough to nominate him.
Can't think of too many right now, but I feel the best is yet to come before the nominations are made. (When is the deadline? Is it from February 07 to February 08?)
To look out for: Johnny Depp (Sweeney Todd), Tommy Lee Jones (No Country For Old Men) and it's make or break for Will Smith (I Am Legend), very big role for the guy. There are bound to be epic performances in "I'm Not There", maybe even Christian Bale will triumph in this.
Well, for me American Gangster had two very strong performances by Denzel Washington and Russel Crowe. Denzel's is probably Oscar nomination worthy.
Adam Sandler probably won't be nominated, but he deserves it for Reign Over Me. I don't think the Acadamy takes him seriously enough to nominate him.
Can't think of too many right now, but I feel the best is yet to come before the nominations are made. (When is the deadline? Is it from February 07 to February 08?)
To look out for: Johnny Depp (Sweeney Todd), Tommy Lee Jones (No Country For Old Men) and it's make or break for Will Smith (I Am Legend), very big role for the guy. There are bound to be epic performances in "I'm Not There", maybe even Christian Bale will triumph in this.
No, I don't often watch documentaries on the big screen. Compare Aguirre with its exploration of obsession, sanity and barbarism with Rescue Dawn, which like its protagonist is resolutely unreflective.
Should I checokut, Aguirre, Wrath of God?
A propos the Oscars and actresses...
Shouldn't these two categories be merged: "Best Actor" and "Best Actresses"?
Shouldn't these two categories be merged: "Best Actor" and "Best Actresses"?
I've seen it, though a long time ago, should watch it again. I love the comic actesses from back in the day, especially in the fast-talking films like His Girl Friday.
I think Meryl Streep's a great actress, but not such a great beauty. Jodie Foster was brilliant back in the day, and I really like Susan Sarandon, very underrated actress. For beauty and acting combined in recent times, the French have it sewn up.
I haven't seen Aguirre. You're right about unreflective... as I say, I don't think it's what he's interested in.
Must see. Shoo-in for top 100.
Brando is immense in Streetcar. I saw a stage version a few years back with Jessica Lange brilliant as Blanche but the guy who played Stanley died - everybody was looking for Brando.
Average performance in an average film.
The only real shock was that he was slightly better than he normally is. Which wouldn't be difficult given the retard fest he normally presents.
I should have said, 'what he's interested in about this particular story'. It's the needing to fly, and the generosity of the man, that I think has him hooked on this one...really hooked, given that this is his second film about him.
Yeah, particular stories can grab you as this one clearly has him but I don't think he's made it clear at all in the film why I should care - and I didn't.
I'll check it out.
Didn't know you were a poncy film buff. Since Crappy can't be arsed to make a list of the best 100 films, how about you take his place, Peter?
Yeah, I wouldn't mind having a go if you need a sub. Looking at the original thread it looks as if you want 100 in no particular order, not by genre and try to keep one-off personal favourites out of it. All by 31 Dec.
Well, seeing as Crappy's pulled out, I don't see a problem in you stepping in. So basically, top 100, any genre, any language, but your top hundred has to be in order ie if you think for example Aguirre is the best film ever made, then it should be number one on your list. And yeah 31 Dec is the deadline.
Oh and are there any films you'd like to recommend?
Oh and are there any films you'd like to recommend?
For me, Vivian Leigh gave possibly the best performance by an actress on screen in any film.
Streetcar? For me it's a toss up between her and Swanson in Sunset. Both performances blew me away. Great films to boot.
For, Streetcar yes. Swanson gave a brilliant performance in Sunset, but I give the edge to Leigh in Streetcar.
Fair enough. I've been watching loads of oldies lately, and what has struck me, is that the actors had more on screen presence in the old days. They were proper movie stars. And blokes were proper blokes in the masculine sense, which I think Plech touched on, the likes of Douglas, Brando, Peck, Mitchum, Bogart et al defined machismo. My mother always used to harp on about that. And she was right.
what about Didier Drogba
Great film.
I have not pulled out, you twat.
I am gonna try and see Street car names desire tonight.
You said you couldn't be arsed. . .and you preferred your XBOX.
Matters not, Peter can do it anyway, whether you're doing a list or not.
Matters not, Peter can do it anyway, whether you're doing a list or not.