Bernardo Silva | Bouhafsi - 70m Euros, 5 year contract. Going to City CONFIRMED

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He's not an out and out winger but he does go on the outside quite a lot and is brilliant at opening up space for the attacking fullback. Not disagreeing but before anybody says we need width, he does offer width tough he does like to come inside also. Another thing is that defensively he's very sound and covers his side of the pitch well.

If you think about how we've used our right sided attacker this season, coming inside quite a bit with Valencia bombing forward, the position looks tailor made for Bernardo.

Would you think he could play very centrally in a SS type position?
 
Would you think he could play very centrally in a SS type position?

Yes. I think Jose will want more goals in that position though so I think we'll go big for Griezmann. That "RW" role we have though seems a bit more sacrificial and thats where Jose likes creativity. The idea is probably for Martial to come in from the left and score goals too, with the right sided player have him as an extra option as they come inside, along with the striker, SS and Pogba.
 
Not interfering at all mate! I'd say someone with a higher return of goals and assists. Bale or a Leicester title winning Mahrez.

Someone who is a real threat out wide.

Bale would have been great in his form but as you said, with his injures his speed will get killed if he keeps on injuring like this and without his speed he would be pretty average sadly. I would have loved if we could get him when he left Spurs but now, don't think so.

Mahrez has been great last season, his performance dropped as all his team players this season so don't know if he would return to his form again or it'll be one season only. I think he and Vardy were wrong from the start to remain at their team this season, both should have followed Kante.
 
Bale would have been great in his form but as you said, with his injures his speed will get killed if he keeps on injuring like this and without his speed he would be pretty average sadly. I would have loved if we could get him when he left Spurs but now, don't think so.

Mahrez has been great last season, his performance dropped as all his team players this season so don't know if he would return to his form again or it'll be one season only. I think he and Vardy were wrong from the start to remain at their team this season, both should have followed Kante.

I agree with you on both points here. Bale would be great but must be wrapped in cotton wool.

Mahrez has a big ceiling and we've seen what he is capable of. He'd be my preference.
 
Yes. I think Jose will want more goals in that position though so I think we'll go big for Griezmann. That "RW" role we have though seems a bit more sacrificial and thats where Jose likes creativity. The idea is probably for Martial to come in from the left and score goals too, with the right sided player have him as an extra option as they come inside, along with the striker, SS and Pogba.

Could he play SS in a 4231 or 4411?
 
Any success? I imagine having Mbappe to find would be fruitful...

He played that role a lot in the last 3 years but not with Mbappé upfront at least I don't recall it. And yes, he is pretty good in that role, that's where he played against Tottenham at Wembley for example.
 
We have been linked to Radja nainggolan and Bernardo silva today, if we sign both it considerably improves our squad. One defender and one Striker and we will be done in the window. Ideally Radja nainggolan,Bernardo silva, Gimenez , belotti and i would be happy. I am not too fussed over griezmann but i would hate to lose out on Radja and Silva to our rivals.
 
He played that role a lot in the last 3 years but not with Mbappé upfront at least I don't recall it. And yes, he is pretty good in that role, that's where he played against Tottenham at Wembley for example.

Ahh ok thanks. If we signed Silva I wouldn't be annoyed I just think we could allocate resources better elsewhere.

Lord maybe the muppet in me is dying...
 
I like this, however it limits the position a fair number of our players could play in.

Martial wouldn't be seen on the left anymore (not necessarily a bad thing)
Mhki and Silva would be competing for the same spot.
Mata becomes pointless.
Lingard would struggle to ever play (again not a bad thing but new contract and all that)
Extremely light on numbers in cm with Pogba moving wide.

Martial can still be 3rd player for those two forward spots...we need to have depth since with CL (hopefully)our schedule will be even more insane. He will surely play even more than he did this season with Rooney and Zlatan gone.

Yes they would, but Mkhi can play across all the AM positions and will have a lot to offer when we need to mix it up position wise. He's versatile. He'll, like Martial, play as much if not more than this season. Again, we need to have depth across all positions and players like Mkhi and Martial will be expected to slot in and make us look like we don't lose quality when they are in. That will allow us not to burn out like this season.

Mata could be sold...or he can stay as good team player like he is and be an extra option. We can afford it.
Lingard will get game time if Mata is gone behind Silva, Griezmann and Mkhi...not so much if Mata stays. But again, depth which we can afford to have.

Pogba will move wide more but not as much, he will still play centrally a lot and it's not a big issue with having capable players behind like Herrera and who ever big name CDM we decide to buy.

We will need a beast of a LB tho to compliment Pogba on the left and close the possible gap of him being there.
 
He played that role a lot in the last 3 years but not with Mbappé upfront at least I don't recall it. And yes, he is pretty good in that role, that's where he played against Tottenham at Wembley for example.
Against tottenham, he was the left AM while Moutinho played through the middle
 
Could he play SS in a 4231 or 4411?

Personally I wouldn't buy him and then play him as a SS in a 4411 unless it was a big game where we were looking to counter. He should play exactly as he does for Monaco from the right and the goalscorers should occupy the other three positions. That's why Griezmann, or somebody of that ilk, should play behind the striker. Griezmann is as good as any striker in front of goal and Silva just doesn't play that way. He's the man you want probing for openings and supplying your front men.
 
Against tottenham, he was the left AM while Moutinho played through the middle

No he wasn't, he was playing next to Falcao and weirdly enough Moutinho was on the left.

PS: I'm watching it at the moment.
 
He played that role a lot in the last 3 years but not with Mbappé upfront at least I don't recall it. And yes, he is pretty good in that role, that's where he played against Tottenham at Wembley for example.

How about against Spurs in Monaco?! Was so surprised at the stadium how good they were and I didn't really notice who were playing! :lol:
 
How about against Spurs in Monaco?! Was so surprised at the stadium how good they were and I didn't really notice who were playing! :lol:

I don't remember well but he was playing on the right I think.
 
I've not watched him a tremendous amount, maybe 10 games or so (Monco's CL run) but in my humble opinion he's a natural #10 or free-roaming AM. He seems a bit restricted in the RM role Jardim plays him in. If he were to come, I'd reckon it'd spell the end of Mata, though to be honest he is the better of the too and younger too boot.

I'd happily have him. Though we need a striker, a CM and a LB more urgently.
 
For the people asking if he could play second-striker, the guy is a #10, and nowadays you can have playmakers playing on the wings. I think we would play him on the right-wing, where he's been for long on Monaco's 4-4-2. Different player from Griezmann, offers a lot of penetration, although he's not the fastest, but has nowhere the finishing ability of the French. What I can't see is going for James Rodríguez and Bernardo.
 
I'll be honest, i've only seen a handful of Monaco matches this season, but Bernardo Silva hasn't been the standout performer in any of them, nor has he done anything particularly eye-catching. I've always found myself watching Sidibe, Mendy, Fabinho, Lemar or Mbappe. I've seen more from Douglas Costa than I have from Silva, and i've probably seen about the same amount of Bayern games this season as I have Monaco games.
 
I'll be honest, i've only seen a handful of Monaco matches this season, but Bernardo Silva hasn't been the standout performer in any of them, nor has he done anything particularly eye-catching. I've always found myself watching Sidibe, Mendy, Fabinho, Lemar or Mbappe. I've seen more from Douglas Costa than I have from Silva, and i've probably seen about the same amount of Bayern games this season as I have Monaco games.

Best player in the league this season. You must have watched the wrong games.
 
Best player in the league this season. You must have watched the wrong games.

That might be where i've gone wrong, I think i've only watched maybe one league game and I think maybe one cup game. Mostly been Champions League games.
 
As good as silva is I think we need someone with a bit more speed on the RW like douglas costa.
 
As good as silva is I think we need someone with a bit more speed on the RW like douglas costa.
Silva is already a better player than Douglas.

This constant obsession with pace is becoming nauseating. Lennon and Walcott were two of the fastest players but of what use was their pace?
 
Silva is already a better player than Douglas.

This constant obsession with pace is becoming nauseating. Lennon and Walcott were two of the fastest players but of what use was their pace?
Hardly seen anything of Bernardo but from the clips shown, he is quick enough, it's his dribbling which catches defenders out. Think he'd be great in the BPL
 
He'd be brilliant in England! Most of the defenders are just brutes, his low center of gravity and dribbling will make him a nightmare to take the ball off, I reckon he'd be our Hazard.
 
He'd be brilliant in England! Most of the defenders are just brutes, his low center of gravity and dribbling will make him a nightmare to take the ball off, I reckon he'd be our Hazard.
Exactly my point, he'd bamboozle most fullbacks etc. Hopefully it won't be the end for Juan if Bernardo comes in. Obviously the starting 11 differs each game, but at home vs those teams that sit back we could maybe play something like this?

Rashford
Mkhitaryan - Mata - Bernardo
Pogba - Herrera
Would love to see the link up play between Micky, Mata and Bernardo with Rashford constantly running in behind, those 3 will find him.
 
He'd be brilliant in England! Most of the defenders are just brutes, his low center of gravity and dribbling will make him a nightmare to take the ball off, I reckon he'd be our Hazard.

I agree he's a brilliant player but we need so much I think he's maybe second or third option. Lukaku would give us guaranteed goals and Griezmann is world class so those 2 should be top of our list. But I'd love Silva here as we need someone with ability to beat a man when teams park the bus. Plus his ceiling is sky high he could end up as a top 5 in the world in my opinion.
 
That in itself is worth getting excited about. If he's not decisive enough he is also only 22. And goals and assists are by no means the only way to be decisive. Iniesta bossed teams and was decisive without producing great numbers. He was as influential and decisive on games as 40 goal a season strikers.

And for a team that has needed technical quality, I think the prospect of a player described as above in bold, is something we should welcome with opens arms.
Not really. There are loads of technically gifted players who who aren't exceptional players. He's not a midfielder so he do does need to be more decisive to be a great player.
 
Not really. There are loads of technically gifted players who who aren't exceptional players. He's not a midfielder so he do does need to be more decisive to be a great player.
How many of them are just 22 years old and achieving great things the way he is at Monaco? Who are these brilliant technical players doing that exactly? Also, great player and decisive are both pretty subjective.
 
Bale would have been great in his form but as you said, with his injures his speed will get killed if he keeps on injuring like this and without his speed he would be pretty average sadly. I would have loved if we could get him when he left Spurs but now, don't think so.

Mahrez has been great last season, his performance dropped as all his team players this season so don't know if he would return to his form again or it'll be one season only. I think he and Vardy were wrong from the start to remain at their team this season, both should have followed Kante.


Bale, even with 80% of his speed is still better and faster than 99% of footballers. People talk as if he is simply a speed merchant like Adama Traore. If there is a chance of getting Bale, which seems to be the case, he should be our no 1 target.
 
Bale, even with 80% of his speed is still better and faster than 99% of footballers. People talk as if he is simply a speed merchant like Adama Traore. If there is a chance of getting Bale, which seems to be the case, he should be our no 1 target.
He's perpetually injured these days anyway. And if he's not struggling with injuries he is key to this madrid team. So I don't think he's going anywhere and we're better off focusing on other players.
 
He's perpetually injured these days anyway. And if he's not struggling with injuries he is key to this madrid team. So I don't think he's going anywhere and we're better off focusing on other players.
Event that is debatable now with the other fringe players really stepping up. Isco has been doing a wonderful job and I expect him to start the final even if Bale is fit. His performance for Madrid even when he was fit this season is nowhere close to the level we expect from him. So I feel there is a chance Madrid might sell him if we go in with a huge bid.
 
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