Ben Shapiro

shamans said:
:lol: even if you are somehow right if I took it back then that's the end of that.

Even by you're definition I wasn't serious but annoyed at the bernie brigade
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Somehow? You know I'm right, foo. :smirk:

Even though you took it back, I'm afraid you're permanently marked by that statement. At least it's not a tagline.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
You've used a lot of words to basically say 'the centre also commit violence, so you can't say the far left also do it'. A lot of words for a lot of whataboutism.
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Seems I should have used some more words, because you obviously didn't understand what I've said.

What you read:
SquishyMcSquish said:
You (...) basically say 'the centre also commit violence, so you can't say the far left also do it'.
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What I wrote:
Synco said:
By which I don't want to curb any reasonable discussion about regressive tendencies in the real-existing left, btw. They sure as hell exist.
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Looks like you kind of went on autopilot there.

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SquishyMcSquish said:
Which hysterics? The far left have a long, violent history of repressing people who clash with the way they want to mould society. And we've seen in this thread in the last two pages how people are happy to justify bullying or general cnuty behaviour as long as it happens to certain people.

And the only reason the 'western far left' has a lot of catching up to do is because the Western far left never gained any genuine kind of power, because we witnessed examples of what they're capable of in Asia/Eastern Europe.
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From the standpoint of a general criticism of violence and bigotry - not the same as pacifism -, culprits from the left can be criticized as much as anyone else. But that approach also pulls the rug under anti-communism and anti-"extremism", as it hits the societal order they're designed to promote in the same way.

This thread is a bit of a mess, btw.
 
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Synco said:
Seems I should have used some more words, because you obviously didn't understand what I've said.

What you read:

What I wrote:

Looks like you kind of went on autopilot there.

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From the standpoint of a general criticism of violence and bigotry - not the same as pacifism -, culprits from the left can be criticized as much as anyone else. But that approach also pulls the rug under anti-communism and anti-"extremism", as it hits the societal order they're designed to promote in the same way.

This thread is a bit of a mess, btw.
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I didn't say that far left extremists invented those tactics or that they were the only ones who practised it, merely that they do so, and often hypocritically hide behind their ideology as an excuse to be nasty.

People are wary of extremism and communism for good reason. That doesn't mean the existing order doesn't have blood on its hands, but generally whenever a society makes a huge shift one side or the other, a huge amount of bloodshed goes with it. So it's pretty understandable that 'extremist' might be considered a bit of a dirty word, whether that's rightly or wrongly.
 
No but if I am to take this as an open invitation to point out when I feel you're lacking the empathy that you found in this thread, then that sounds fun.
 
shamans said:
Depends on who invokes it. Context matters.
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That doesn’t matter. It’s the fact that posters invoke it to begin with. Happens to a lot of posters. Look at Raoul. We’re still giving him shit about his comment of Trump pivoting to the left, and he said that in 2016/17.
 
Florida Man said:
That doesn’t matter. It’s the fact that posters invoke it to begin with. Happens to a lot of posters. Look at Raoul. We’re still giving him shit about his comment of Trump pivoting to the left, and he said that in 2016/17.
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Feel free. I wasn't quoting "permanently marked" in an attempt to question it, just how childish it sounded. Then again you're here with the pro bullying stance so I'm not sure I should be surprised... after all, it's not like you have actual solid arguments to defend that.
 
shamans said:
Feel free. I wasn't quoting "permanently marked" in an attempt to question it, just how childish it sounded. Then again you're here with the pro bullying stance so I'm not sure I should be surprised...
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As if you don’t half come up with some childish shit on your own, especially when the comment in question is pretty damn childish.

Also, I’m not in the pro bullying crowd. I’m in the feck Shapiro and everything about him crowd. Get it right.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
No but if I am to take this as an open invitation to point out when I feel you're lacking the empathy that you found in this thread, then that sounds fun.
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There’s a recent gem in the 2020 thread, apparently he found enough empathy for little Benny but when it came to people in need of free healthcare, ‘this is America’.
Florida Man said:
That doesn’t matter. It’s the fact that posters invoke it to begin with. Happens to a lot of posters. Look at Raoul. We’re still giving him shit about his comment of Trump pivoting to the left, and he said that in 2016/17.
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We are still giving him shit for ‘racism is largely blunted in the States’, that must be like 2012 or so :lol:
 
Imagine taking Eboue’s comments so much to heart that you descend into a sociological critique of certain political spectrums just to make yourself look like some paragon of virtue.
 
Florida Man said:
Imagine taking Eboue’s comments so much to heart that you descend into a sociological critique of certain political spectrums just to make yourself look like some paragon of virtue.
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The far-centre has done at least an equal amount of damage as the far-left and this is undeniable. If you look at the history books every far of centre party has been equal or worse than the far-left. Go through the stats, reports and documents and it'll become clear to you that the far centre's chaos runs nine circles deep. Only the far-right and the far-out have been more of a menace II society.
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Oh god, Centrist 1 and Centrist 2 patting themselves on the back and nodding sagely about the terribleness of the """"far"""" left.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
I didn't say that far left extremists invented those tactics or that they were the only ones who practised it, merely that they do so, and often hypocritically hide behind their ideology as an excuse to be nasty.

People are wary of extremism and communism for good reason. That doesn't mean the existing order doesn't have blood on its hands, but generally whenever a society makes a huge shift one side or the other, a huge amount of bloodshed goes with it. So it's pretty understandable that 'extremist' might be considered a bit of a dirty word, whether that's rightly or wrongly.
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"Extremism" logically implies a genuinely non-"extreme" counterpart. Which has never existed from the angle of any serious criticism of organized violence and social cruelty. It is therefore a self-excuse of the self-styled "center" by design, and that has always been its primary function. Ideologically, it's the continuation of Cold War anti-communism, whose interest-driven selective morality is well documented.

A rational, critical dispute about power, violence, and basic social nastiness is impossible in such a highly ideological framework.
 
Ben's reply to a bot that tweets him every day to remind him he's short

 
Just found this thread and I'm sure it's been said multiple times already but Ben is a dumb persons idea of a smart person.
 
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