Exactly this.
All the accolades he got for playing his young players might well be shown as a temporary forced situation too.
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Exactly this.
All the accolades he got for playing his young players might well be shown as a temporary forced situation too.
Roman and Granovskaia showing Ed and the Glazers how to back a manager and build a squad. Look at the amount of talent they already have on their books out on loan and top youth and they are still making big signings the manager needs. They were banned in the first place for being too aggressive in the market. We barely have a squad 12 months later.
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I honestly don't know.
Ed and the Glazer have spent, aside from Jose's 3rd season, but overall they have spent poorly for the most of the past 7 years.
Chelsea wouldn't be buying all these players if they didn't already have better players, but they don't. Their youth players aren't all that or else they'd get a better chance, aside from Mount. But CHO, RLC, Christensen, Gilmore, Abraham, etc are all 2nd choice at very best. Azpelicueta is their captain and right back, and Chelsea will not continue playing 3 at the back allowing James to play RWB, unless he beats out Azpelicueta...Chelsea have signed good players, but they still have to figure out how to adapt to each other, what formation and shape, and adapt to the league if they are able to at a high level.
And even if Chelsea get better defensive players, they have to have a better defensive shape without the ball going forward.
Have a feeling he's going to be judged incredibly harshly next season much like Maguire has been this.
Chelsea also have a richer benefactor let's not forget, and a missed season of transfers so do have money to spend.
They have been better than us in the market for years. This isnt anything new this summer. They are better at negotiating both buying and sale prices
You are forgetting the 'London' factor. A lot of foreign footballer do feel a lot more comfortable in the capital. Whether you agree or not, it does give you a head start. Chelsea have also been more successful in recent years, and Utd have lost a little of their lustre
Not so sure about that. If he was a record fee for sure. But there have been loads of £50m fullbacks in recent years.
No. Arsenal Spurs etc. Chelsea just have a very good transfer team
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Some great (on paper) deals for Chelsea.
Top young striker - check
Top AM/RW - check
Top LB - check
Potential WC AM - Pending
Experienced CB - Pending
Surely if they pull off Havertz and Silva they have to be challenging for the title? Lampard will have basically cherry picked 5 players for his side.
Top young striker - check
Top AM/RW - check
Top LB - check
Potential WC AM - Pending
Experienced CB - Pending
Surely if they pull off Havertz and Silva they have to be challenging for the title? Lampard will have basically cherry picked 5 players for his side.
Still think Silva would be our best CB even at 35 but not convinced of that happening. Think he goes to Serie A.
There are better options than Chilwell available for less money. Guess they just want an English player.
Anyways , yes - great signings and they would be challenging City and Liverpool interms of squad quality.
I think title is a big ask next year due to the sheer volume of new recruits (over half our lineup could be new recruits), unless it's going to be an 80-85 point title which is unlikely with Klopp and Pep about.
However comfortable top 4 is minimum requirement and rightly so.
Even 40 years old Silva will be better than Zouma. Chilwell and Silva can bring much needed reassurance at the back.
Most will be surprised by Lampard's approach in big games coming season. Yes he will have better defensive personal at his disposal coming season compared to last season hence slightly defensive phase will get bit better logically.
I think he will be little bit conservative in general play than his usual gung-ho approach. His playing squad get upgraded with Werner, ziyech and possibly havertz in attacking sense.
This improvement in attack will allow him to be conservative yet score enough to win matches with added better defensive personals (chilwell,CB,keeper) he can achieve better defensive shape . Of course he need better goal keeper than kepa but I won't be surprised he will achieve better defensive play by setting them up little conservatively at least at the start of the coming season.
I think he will be little bit conservative in general play than his usual gung-ho approach. His playing squad get upgraded with Werner, ziyech and possibly havertz in attacking sense.
This improvement in attack will allow him to be conservative yet score enough to win matches with added better defensive personals (chilwell,CB,keeper) he can achieve better defensive shape . Of course he need better goal keeper than kepa but I won't be surprised he will achieve better defensive play by setting them up little conservatively at least at the start of the coming season.
feck, another good signing by them!
I'll agree, like the AWB signing we'll be overpaying for a limited player. Reasonably solid defensively but that's it. Worth about £20m, other 30 is English player tax.
Don't see any of our signings being enough for a title challenge, we'll still be behind City and Liverpool in almost all areas. Though we should be very comfortably top 4 and the goal has to be third.
So, Chelsea going to be serious contender next season with so many good signings:
- Timo Werner 50m (top young striker who scored 34 goals last season, only second to Lewandowski in the league, will surely improve their attack)
- Hakim Ziyech 40m (Ajax best player over past 3 years, scored 21 goals as winger/AM in previous season, very interesting signing)
- Chilwell 50m (England international left back, arguable one of the best left back in the league, very good signing)
- Havertz 80-100m? (one of the best/most talented young attacking midfielder, it may or may not happen, lets see)
In comparison, this is what happened at Man Utd:
- 0 progress in our top target Sancho, we are far from matching their asking price, seems highly unlikely to happen
- our other target Grealish looks too expensive too, may not happen
- Our captain is currently locked in jail too, what the feck
- Timo Werner 50m (top young striker who scored 34 goals last season, only second to Lewandowski in the league, will surely improve their attack)
- Hakim Ziyech 40m (Ajax best player over past 3 years, scored 21 goals as winger/AM in previous season, very interesting signing)
- Chilwell 50m (England international left back, arguable one of the best left back in the league, very good signing)
- Havertz 80-100m? (one of the best/most talented young attacking midfielder, it may or may not happen, lets see)
In comparison, this is what happened at Man Utd:
- 0 progress in our top target Sancho, we are far from matching their asking price, seems highly unlikely to happen
- our other target Grealish looks too expensive too, may not happen
- Our captain is currently locked in jail too, what the feck
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In terms of ability yes absolutely but I do worry that at his age that yard of pace that was such a special part of his game isn’t their anymore. Seems like a Serie A player now but regardless a good experienced player.
There are different options but better is difficult to judge as Chelsea will be wanting PL experience, young and potentially Lampard might be after a few more English talents. I don’t see a LB that combines it all that is definitely better and cheaper so it’s a good pick from Chelsea albeit I wouldn’t want to pay £50m for him.
If you’ve strengthened as much as you have having finished 4th surely a push for those top 2 spots has to be the priority.
As things stand your window has been the strongest of all PL clubs.
If Leicester can convince Tagliafico to go there for 25 million euros they will have done brilliant business...
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Absolutely and I’d fully expect them to get a player like that. Or Alex Telles.
If we're talking about getting 90+ points (last two seasons title challenge) then we'll fail. Too many new players at once.
A big improvement on this season will be expected for sure. Barring a ludicrous injury situation, anything below a 15 point improvement would put Lampard under big pressure.
He won’t, because Chelsea do not get scrutiny.
They have had some atrocious windows in recent years that are swept under the carpet. Recency bias means some absolute guff is being overlooked in terms of signings they’ve made.
You have never scrutinized Chelsea, that's right.
Yep, he’s the player Chelsea should be in for.
Someone has to do it!
There's more criticism towards Chelsea from you just on this site than there is towards Man United from the rest of the world on the entire internet.
You need to calm it down to balance things out!
Yep the likes of Morata (60m), Emerson (20m), Zappacosta (28m), Barkley (15m), Drinkwater (35m), Kepa (70m the most expensive GK in world football) all legendary signings.
Chelsea's business this summer looks very astute but let's not rewrite modern history, they've been shit in the transfer windows in recent years with their last really good signing being Kante back in 2016 (oh and Pulisic more recently forgot about him)
Brilliant business, how so? Leicester didn't want to sell, but Chilwell wanted the move. The rumoured transfer fee was 70/80m, similar to Maguire's.
Tagliafico is clearly a better LB at the moment, but he's 28 years old. A 28-year old player from Argentina, playing for Ajax in the Eridivisie will always be a lot cheaper than a young English player playing for a top Premier League club.
Even if Leicester manage to get Tagliafico for 25m in a four/five year deal, he will have nearly zero resale value in 3/4 years' time. Unless Chilwell flops miserably, he will easily fetch similar or better money (50m) if Chelsea decide to sell him in 3/4 years' time.
Resale value is a huge factor in determining the price of players.
I am happy to provide a balanced outlook, but it just strikes me that you get such ludicrously positive coverage and it grinds my gears because United in comparison get shat on from all angles.
Clearly you have done good business this summer so far but then it turns into people pedalling the narrative that you are incredible in the transfer market, which overlooks all of the years recently when you have been terrible. You have a business model where the dross can be sidelined and then replaced with little fuss. I’m thinking of Drinkwater, Zappacosta, et al. Let’s not even get started on all the wasted money on strikers, a position where you have a particularly terrible hit rate.
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If Barkley was only £15m I think it’s very harsh to lump him him in with the rest.
Also why does it matter what they have done in previous seasons. This season they have got some very good deals on paper.
If you read the post I quoted you'll see why it matters
It’s fine to say they have done well in the market this summer. It’s when people extrapolate that and make out that they are a reference point for great transfer business in general that it becomes ridiculous. This Marina bird is the most hyped person on the planet
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