Bastian Schweinsteiger | Exit Speculation

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I really don't see the point in selling him. We have Pogba and Herrera as attacking central midfielders; Fellaini and Schneiderlin as destroyers so why not have a second 'controller' like Carrick?

His experience and passing ability could be helpful like.
 
Terminator said:
He and his passive aggressive tweets can * off. Did he say ever stuff like this when he was in the first team but not playing? Milking all the sympathy.
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Passive aggressive tweets:lol:
 
An Irish Red said:
I really don't see the point in selling him. We have Pogba and Herrera as attacking central midfielders; Fellaini and Schneiderlin as destroyers so why not have a second 'controller' like Carrick?

His experience and passing ability could be helpful like.
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We seem to be playing 4-2-3-1. Fellaini, Pogba, Schneiderlin, Carrick, Herrera, Schweinsteiger, TFM and Pereira all fighting for two spots is too much.
 
Classy bloke, absolute legend of the game. Hope he can move to another club and enjoy himself in his twilight years.
 
Just to add my shout out to people saying classy bloke. This for me, is the one little cloud on the horizon of an encouraging fresh by Mou, coming over humble (he was nervous), gracious (dedicating Charity Shield win to LVG), and open-minded (giving Mata a chance). What ever happens, whether he goes or stays, Bastian needs to be treated with total respect by the manager and by the club. The danger of not doing that is of planting the seeds of discontent in the future; the world is watching, the grandees are watching, and the other players are watching.
 
The club should just pay him off. He's a class player with class pedigree. They gave him the contract and if they're so desperate to flog him, hen pay him off.
A bit sad that both club and player are in this situation but the club have to back their manager.
Bayern fans and legends having digs at United is not on.
 
It's a game of poker. I predict that as soon as the transfer window closes, he'll be back in the squad. Anything else would be a waste of wages. During Euro 2016 he looked better than he did all season for United. Assuming he is preparing like a professional he'll be an asset during the long season ahead.
 
Isn't the Schweinsteiger thing an example of a typical Mourinho power play? Ostracising the old man's lieutenant in favour of his own (Zlatan), we saw this with Mata at Chelsea and Kaka at Real Madrid. And if the reports are true concerning Basti's questionable behaviour last season JM will know the squad will have no problems at all with him doing this.
 
Piratesoup said:
A post in the mains well spent. Keep it up :lol:



Nah, I don't buy that at all
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My post was directly picked from reddit. Since reddit is followed by quite a few people here, I thought it was going to be obvious I was poking fun at the post.
 
Adisa said:
The club should just pay him off. He's a class player with class pedigree. They gave him the contract and if they're so desperate to flog him, hen pay him off.
A bit sad that both club and player are in this situation but the club have to back their manager.
Bayern fans and legends having digs at United is not on.
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Well, that doesn't necessarily help a player though. Do you remember Paul Parker?
 
Libano said:
It's a game of poker. I predict that as soon as the transfer window closes, he'll be back in the squad. Anything else would be a waste of wages. During Euro 2016 he looked better than he did all season for United. Assuming he is preparing like a professional he'll be an asset during the long season ahead.
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I agree.
 
Really hope he stays and ends up in the first team. Always one of my favourite players.
 
Pissed off at the Schweinsteiger's treatment. If he was travelling to Germany last season, then it's the manager who was at fault for not laying down the law. He should be given a chance like all the other players who are in the squad. When fit, he can provide so much to this United team with his experience and passing ability. It's such a great shame that he is not being allowed to prove his worth.
 
Libano said:
It's a game of poker. I predict that as soon as the transfer window closes, he'll be back in the squad. Anything else would be a waste of wages. During Euro 2016 he looked better than he did all season for United. Assuming he is preparing like a professional he'll be an asset during the long season ahead.
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We kept Valdes in the stands.

Mourinho is stubborn, and he wont budge on this one. I dont see the need for him either,if push comes to shove, play the youngsters.

I think we have seen his last game in a United shirt(other than any legend games in future, possibly)..I think if we cant sell him by the window, we'll move him on in January.
 
ghagua said:
Pissed off at the Schweinsteiger's treatment. If he was travelling to Germany last season, then it's the manager who was at fault for not laying down the law. He should be given a chance like all the other players who are in the squad. When fit, he can provide so much to this United team with his experience and passing ability. It's such a great shame that he is not being allowed to prove his worth.
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I really dont get this point.

Why should a manager be obligated to put someone in their plans if they dont see them fit for the tactics they seek to employ? Surely a first team manager that lives and dies by his decisions should be allowed to make them.

Blackett and Januzaj werent given a chance either, with the former not even getting a squad number.

People have synthesized a story of why Bastian isnt playing(the teammates hating him over spending time in Germany thing), and used it as a stick to beat the club with. It could really simply be that Mourinho watched him play last season(and Mourinho certainly had enough time to do that) and realised that he doesnt really need any of the qualities that Bastian offers. That version is less controversial, but certainly not juicy enough for people to run with.
 
Dont fully understand his exclusion if im honest, he's still an excellent squad player at this level at the very least.
 
Adisa said:
The club should just pay him off. He's a class player with class pedigree. They gave him the contract and if they're so desperate to flog him, hen pay him off.
A bit sad that both club and player are in this situation but the club have to back their manager.
Bayern fans and legends having digs at United is not on.
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What have the club got to gain from that?
 
ghagua said:
Pissed off at the Schweinsteiger's treatment. If he was travelling to Germany last season, then it's the manager who was at fault for not laying down the law. He should be given a chance like all the other players who are in the squad. When fit, he can provide so much to this United team with his experience and passing ability. It's such a great shame that he is not being allowed to prove his worth.
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No it is not just the manager's fault. Yes he was allowed to go but him even requesting that was not really the best idea.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Because he is not in Jose's plans. Who would you like to make way for him in the squad?
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They will say Fellaini.

Thats too easy.

Hes the midfielder on the highest wages, the most injury prone and the most unfit. And the most important thing, is not in the coaches plans. We cant force him to play him, full discretion of the squad should go to the manager.
 
K2K said:
They will say Fellaini.

Thats too easy.

Hes the midfielder on the highest wages, the most injury prone and the most unfit. And the most important thing, is not in the coaches plans. We cant force him to play him, full discretion of the squad should go to the manager.
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Fellaini who was, arguably, man of the match yesterday! Looks a different player under Jose.

Agree with everything you're saying. Also, he looked horribly sluggish and overweight last season and I suspect he was saving himself for the Euros at the end of the season.
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
Dont fully understand his exclusion if im honest, he's still an excellent squad player at this level at the very least.
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I think its more so a surplus to requirements issue - as in, bringing in Zlatan, Pogba, Mkhi, and Bailly whilst not getting rid of anyone on significant wages would probably be frowned upon by Woodward and company. Reducing Schweinsteiger's wages from the books would go a long way to alleviating that, just as getting rid of the wages of Di Maria, Falcao, RvP, Nani, and Rafa did a year ago.
 
He was the player i wanted us to get for nearly a decade but to be honest i dont see the issue here.

From all thats been reported he doesn't seem like he was ever fully with the team last season. He's a senior professional he should be the example and if he was leveraging his relationship with LvG to take it easy then we're better off rid.

It was Carrick or him and the former has done a lot more to deserve his place here.
 
He had a rocky year for sure, as did practically everyone in our midfield. i still foresee a scenario where he's useful here on his contract. Especially his experience and character in the same way zlatan gets praise for nurturing a winning mentality and helping the younger players.

Him and rooney are in the same boat with regards to, obviously useful additions to our team, but not worth the money they're currently on, but alas, its not the NBA, and we aren't working under luxury tax restrictions, or his presence here is hardly stopping the likes of Hererra, fellaini, scheiderlin from upping their games, infact his inclusion for competition and experience would likely aid their hopefully continued development.

We also have a ton of games with the europa league.
 
I don't see him returning to the fold at all. Best for everyone if he moves on.
 
K2K said:
They will say Fellaini.

Thats too easy.

Hes the midfielder on the highest wages, the most injury prone and the most unfit. And the most important thing, is not in the coaches plans. We cant force him to play him, full discretion of the squad should go to the manager.
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Spot on.
 
Should never have bought him... total waste of time and money - hasn't been properly fit for at least 4 seasons - even his old mates at Bayern didn't think he could hack it in the Prem. I can only think he was bought with shirt sales in mind and considering the state of our midfield when he was bought that should have been the last thing on Ed's mind. He's the playing equivalent of whatever tyre company sponsors us in Vietnam...
 
We could just be reading too much into this.

Mourinho works with a small, dependable group of players.

Schweinsteiger can't be depended on. He's too injury prone. You can't plan anything around him.

Also notable that Schweinsteiger doesn't appear to have endeared himself to many within the squad or indeed the club.

You can take the man out of Bayern....
 
schwalbe said:
Imagine the outrage here if Real Madrid did something like that to one of its players :wenger:
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Tell you what buy him back and play him instead of Vidal if he's so important to Bayern, Their chairman and their fans.
He hardly played for you in his last 2 seasons at Bayern 23 then 20 league games and that was 2 seasons ago.
 
Fully Fledged said:
Tell you what buy him back and play him instead of Vidal if he's so important to Bayern, Their chairman and their fans.
He hardly played for you in his last 2 seasons at Bayern 23 then 20 league games and that was 2 seasons ago.
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I don't think Bayern wants to pay 200k a weak, or whatever you pay him, for a player who's constantly injured.
 
Sam M said:
Isn't the Schweinsteiger thing an example of a typical Mourinho power play? Ostracising the old man's lieutenant in favour of his own (Zlatan), we saw this with Mata at Chelsea and Kaka at Real Madrid. And if the reports are true concerning Basti's questionable behaviour last season JM will know the squad will have no problems at all with him doing this.
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Or it could be an example of typical behavior a club does when it needs to send a player who is out of shape to train with the reserves so as not to disrupt the first team preparations.
 
Have come to the conclusion that BFS is a cnut. It's the only explanation.
 
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