Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!

It's clearly illegal, or should be, it's a massive conflict of interest for Barcelona to be posting Negreira. In my line of work we're not even allowed to buy our client a drink as that would be seen as trying to influence them to stay with us and not take their business elsewhere.

La Liga need to chuck them out of the competition, but do they have the balls? They've made the competition just about Barcelona and Real Madrid themselves, so they've had a hand in making this a bigger decision than it should be.
 
It's clearly illegal, or should be, it's a massive conflict of interest for Barcelona to be posting Negreira. In my line of work we're not even allowed to buy our client a drink as that would be seen as trying to influence them to stay with us and not take their business elsewhere.
It is even worse than that. Apparently Negreira declared he didn't have a salary for his job as ref VP. So... the person who analyzed ref performances and decided which refs would be promoted or demoted
only earned money from Barca. I mean, he is basically a Barca employee at that point.

Then, with the money he earned from Barca he would give gifts valued in tens of thousands of euros to the refs and made huge and strange cash withdrawals we don't know why.
 
It is even worse than that. Apparently Negreira declared he didn't have a salary for his job as ref VP. So... the person who analyzed ref performances and decided which refs would be promoted or demoted
only earned money from Barca. I mean, he is basically a Barca employee at that point.

Then, with the money he earned from Barca he would give gifts valued in tens of thousands of euros to the refs and made huge and strange cash withdrawals we don't know why.
Surely that has to be wrong.
 
Almost certain there will be punishment, it seems. Like with City, I wonder what the impact will be on other clubs. I remember a great article a few years back about the effect on the other big Scottish clubs, especially Celtic, of Rangers being banished to the lower leagues. It was quite drastic; drop in energy, income, lots of unanticipated effects from the competition being less intense. In the same way Real would probably suffer from Barca being relegated or whatever.

I am 100% sure that the manipulated dominance by Barca along with Real have held back the other organizations. Spain is almost the size of England. In Europe, it feels like Portugal 3rd and 4th rank are bigger and better than Spain’s 3rd and 4th. Cities like Bilbao and Malaga and the likes should have really strong teams besides the obvious candidates like Valencia and Seville.

Alaves makes one final in the Spanish cup, and the ref completely destroys them and hands the game to Barca.
 
I am 100% sure that the manipulated dominance by Barca along with Real have held back the other organizations. Spain is almost the size of England. In Europe, it feels like Portugal 3rd and 4th rank are bigger and better than Spain’s 3rd and 4th. Cities like Bilbao and Malaga and the likes should have really strong teams besides the obvious candidates like Valencia and Seville.

Alaves makes one final in the Spanish cup, and the ref completely destroys them and hands the game to Barca.
Thanks for the info. Makes sense, Scotland a poor comparison to be fair
 
Surely that has to be wrong.

Haha, I just saw an article of how Negreira during a chunk of this period earned “full disability” pension of €1,200. Can’t find it now to post a link. Would explain why he didn’t report any income from the CTA to the tax authorities…
 
Haha, I just saw an article of how Negreira during a chunk of this period earned “full disability” pension of €1,200. Can’t find it now to post a link. Would explain why he didn’t report any income from the CTA to the tax authorities…
There you go.
He received €1240 monthly for disability while earning millions from Barca and earning nothing from his job as the ref VP.

Also, when Barca stopped paying him abruptly (because he was no longer the ref VP) he threatened Barca to continue the payments or he would reveal all the irregularities he knew from the club. Then he was hired by the Catalonian Football Federation for the same concept, ref reports.

You can not make this up.
 
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Maybe one of the Barce fans/trolls could explain why they were in a position to be bribed by Negriera if they were doing nothing wrong? Surely at that point they would have sued him, like they are threatening to do to others who are "besmirching" their sainted reputation.
 
In Europe, it feels like Portugal 3rd and 4th rank are bigger and better than Spain’s 3rd and 4th.
I'm not sure where you are getting this. I'm pretty sure most people think Atletico Madrid are better than Portugal's 3rd. I have no idea who Portugal's 4th best team even is.
 
Barcelona have seemingly made a mockery of the whole sport.

The statute of limitations must be changed in Spain if they're guilty. They've got to be relegated and banned from European football as well.

The accusations make what Juve did pre 2006 look like playground stuff.

If we want to look at positives, maybe such a disaster can push football in Europe to a more sustainable and better place, eventually!
 
Just want to remind everyone that Barca has until the end of this month to find the finantiation for their "Espai Barça", works worth €1.5B without interest, and they have already demolished a bit of the Camp Nou.

Their credit rating was already plummeting. Don't think UEFA's investigation will help.
 
Wonder how much this will hurt Messi’s legacy?
 
So we'll gain a few CL trophies because of this and win some more PL's because of the City stuff? Brilliant.
 
Wonder how much this will hurt Messi’s legacy?
Somewhat. He was a great player regardless and i dont think people will change their opinion on his capability. But yeah, his achievements are basically void. Funny that his time at psg will probably be held in higher regard when alls said and done.
 
Wonder how much this will hurt Messi’s legacy?

It will have some impact but I doubt most people will care.
If Barça ends up losing european titles then it's a bit higher, he will end up with 0 Champions League titles and some of his balloon d'ors will have an asterisk next to them (because they're tied to those CL titles even if in theory they don't need to) and this is even excluding his la liga contributions to the other ballon d'ors as well.
 
If they get charged in court for corruption, La Liga won't be able to just avert their eyes. What is interesting about this case is that it is ending up in a legal court and not a kangaroo sports court. As we all know when it goes to a sports court/board they can make up what they want, in a legal court they cannot do so. Therefore, if Barca get found guilty, La Liga, UEFA and FIFA will have to act decisively, especially as a corruption charge leads to bringing the entire sport into disrupte.
 
Hello @Niemans

Once again, enjoy bankruptcy.

I don't know why you hate me? I just talked and gave arguments as to why Barcelona could sign last year, I talked about the FFP and that Barcelona had no obligation to sell FDJ.
The facts proved me right and I don't know why you've taken it so badly.

Bankruptcy? If you think that, you're going to be very disappointed.
 
I don't know why you hate me? I just talked and gave arguments as to why Barcelona could sign last year, I talked about the FFP and that Barcelona had no obligation to sell FDJ.
The facts proved me right and I don't know why you've taken it so badly.

Bankruptcy? If you think that, you're going to be very disappointed.
I’m just joking mate relax. I don’t hate anybody.
 
I don't know why you hate me? I just talked and gave arguments as to why Barcelona could sign last year, I talked about the FFP and that Barcelona had no obligation to sell FDJ.
The facts proved me right and I don't know why you've taken it so badly.

Bankruptcy? If you think that, you're going to be very disappointed.
No one hates you dude. People are rightfully fecking furious with Barcelona. You'll probably eat a few stray bullets but try not to take it too personally.

Incidentally i knew you could keep hold of FDJ and sign a load of players, I just thought it was a spectacularly stupid idea.
 
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There you go.
He received €1240 monthly for disability while earning millions from Barca and earning nothing from his job as the ref VP.

Also, when Barca stopped paying him abruptly (because he was no longer the ref VP) he threatened Barca to continue the payments or he would reveal all the irregularities he knew from the club. Then he was hired by the Catalonian Football Federation for the same concept, ref reports.

You can not make this up.
Was it a kind of refs blackmailing them then?
 
No idea if that’s possible and if it were, I don’t believe there’s a snowball‘s chance in hell it’s going to happen. But I think Barca should be excluded from all competitions for many years.
 
No idea if that’s possible and if it were, I don’t believe there’s a snowball‘s chance in hell it’s going to happen. But I think Barca should be excluded from all competitions for many years.
I think one of the potential penalties for being found guilty is exclusion from competing for up to 5 years. Or something along them lines.
 
No idea if that’s possible and if it were, I don’t believe there’s a snowball‘s chance in hell it’s going to happen. But I think Barca should be excluded from all competitions for many years.

Should be like American College sports, teams can get the death penalty and be essentially dismantled and forced to rebuild from scratch.
 
I think one of the potential penalties for being found guilty is exclusion from competing for up to 5 years. Or something along them lines.
That sounds about fair. And then start again from the bottom. They made a mockery of the sport. They should have to pay for it.
 
Should be like American College sports, teams can get the death penalty and be essentially dismantled and forced to rebuild from scratch.
Thats the way i'd go. Primarily to rid the club of executives and administrators which put it in this mess all of which i'd give lifetime bans from the sport. Beyond that though ridding the sport of the club and everyone associated with it just feels an appropriate punishment for something as severe as this
 
It's like watching a boxer win a heavyweight title fight, devoting your entire fandom free time to that boxer, then finding out that every fight in the run up to and including the title was fixed by bribing the referees. And THEN still telling people you love that boxer and your memories of all his glorious fights.

Can we change the name of the Stockholm Syndrome to Barcelona Syndrome?
 
They will just come out with "nothing to see here"
Yes, but not in the way we think. UEFA ushed into this way before there are any trials or official legal proceedings. For a scoundrel like Ceferino this is is a golden opportunity to dismantle the SuperLeague coalition once and for all. I bet you any money that behind the scenes he'll negotiate with Laporta getting him to abandon the idea and then they will say that there was nothing to see there anyway.