Barca want Da Silva twins

Will Absolute said:
Imo, the desertion of Ronaldo has unduly influenced opinions about the relative attractions of La Liga and Premiership football, or our ability to hold and attract top players. Most players don't care that much about the sunshine, and watching Barca or Real as a kid isn't likely to be decisive in their career decisions as an adult.
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In principle I do get the point, as a kid you watch the leagues where your favourite players are and for a Brazilian that would rarely be Brazil. I've mentioned this before, the top pundit on Brazilian TV called Becks "Beckman" during the 2002 WC, that's how little coverage the PL got there.

But... just look at how many former players from Mediterranean countries opt for making a coaching/pundit career in England. Quite a few you would expect to easily have access to similar opportunities elsewhere but somehow they choose the country without the beach and bad weather (won't get into food, that's a matter of taste and with money you can eat well anywhere).
 
They want the twins, we want Messi and Iniesta. Hell, I'd take Busquets as well.

Does this mean we'll get them? No

Wanting doesn't mean you'll get.
 
gambit28 said:
Pozzo confirmed we had made an offer. We just went out very quickly after it became apparent he was only interested in Barca. He went to Barca for €26 million euros (with 11 mil in variables) city offered €45 million. That was confirmed by Pozzo too.
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That's the part I'm least sure of.

I remember Pozzo talking about us, but in fairness he linked a lot of clubs with Sanchez.

You seem certain about the facts, and even at the time I was never completely sure what had happened, so it's more likely you're right.
 
Devil may care said:
I hope there's no truth in this, they are both injury prone at the moment but they are great talents and fantastic little characters.

What makes this worse (If true) is that it's Barca and not Real, at least when Real tap up your players they pay top dollar, Barca always want them on the cheap like it's an honour to sell to them.
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Exactly. You just know they're going to be absolute khunts about the whole thing.

Still livid at how much we were fleeced over the Fabregas deal. fecking outrage.
 
I love the twins but they are very replaceable to be honest, although not as a twin pairing, that may be a little tougher to replace, but give me some time in Brazil with a rifle and I will get them for you.
 
Vidic_In_Moscow said:
I love the twins but they are very replaceable to be honest, although not as a twin pairing, that may be a little tougher to replace, but give me some time in Brazil with a rifle and I will get them for you.
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replace with who, yeah because they are injury-prone so sell them. :rolleyes:
 
Kelvin said:
replace with who, yeah because they are injury-prone so sell them. :rolleyes:
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:lol: Who are you the Assumption King?

In terms of quality they are good but hardly great. If you're asking WHO I'd replace them with - I have no idea, but there are many players out there of a similar level as them, because they are not that outstanding in all honesty.
 
Vidic_In_Moscow said:
:lol: Who are you the Assumption King?

In terms of quality they are good but hardly great. If you're asking WHO I'd replace them with - I have no idea, but there are many players out there of a similar level as them, because they are not that outstanding in all honesty.
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It isnt just a case of how good they are now though, is it? They have fantastic potential, what they need is luck with injuries. I really think that injuries permitting, both will go on to be top footballers, so i'd be gutted if we lost them.

It isnt just about losing your top players, even the young ones with potential need to be held onto specially for clubs like United who invest more in youth than buying top stars.
 
Don't think the twins will leave us for at least another 3-4 years.

They know they have not progressed as expected because of their injuries,Fabio especially.

SAF brought on Fabio for Evra in the match.I am sure that will happen a lot in future if Fabio remains fit. Evra is not exactly in his better years. There is a huge opening for Fabio in future as he seems the sole choice after Evra in the long term currently because i don't rate Fryers as first team United quality.
 
Will Absolute said:
That's the part I'm least sure of.
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Then you've overlooked plenty of evidence


"If Barca want him, they have to pay his fair price, which is €50million. The truth is that Manchester City are making an offer which is more generous that that from Barcelona," Udinese owner Pozzo said.

"This is not going into a fight, but if Cesc is worth €40 million and Neymar and Sergio Aguero €45 million, I say Alexis Sanchez is worth €50 million. Since I am the one who puts the price, well, that's what there is."
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“The final price was €26m plus another €11m in variables," Pozzo told Ona FM.

"He only wanted to sign for Barcelona and because of that the negotiations were not easy.

There were offers from England that were higher, a €45m one from Manchester City to be precise."
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Footballing director, Josep Maria Bartomeu, on the day of his presentation to the club

"We had the full cooperation of the player. From the first moment he wanted to come and he rejected offers economically far superior to those offered by the club" and therefore “collaborated in being able to come to Barça”
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Interview with the player on his presentation:

Question: You had several offers, why the decision to come to Barcelona?

A.Sanchez: My father always wanted me to play here. Nothing to do with money, only to win titles. I could tell my children and grandchildren where I got the titles so I came.
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If there is any truth in these rumours I will cry. I weep and there will be mucus.
 
@ FCBarca

Those quotes mention nothing about a high offer from United, just City, and the stuff about always wanting to sign for Barca came after the fact, which is the kind of thing players say.

Sanchez may well have had a boyhood dream of playing for Barcelona, and wanted to sign for nobody else, but that wasn't what he was saying in the year leading up to his transfer, and those quotes, imo, don't categorically prove it, unless you regard Mr Pozzo as an impeccable source who's never told a lie or been guilty of exaggeration. Which I must admit, I don't.

I think the evidence suggests that Sanchez favoured Barca, but imo, it's still not clear how deeply United entered into negotiations, or why they abandoned them.

From what I've seen, he's been good for Barca, but not great, so it's conceivable that Fergie thought he wasn't value at Udinese's price.
 
RedDevilCanuck said:
If there is any truth in these rumours I will cry. I weep and there will be mucus.
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I'm no authority obviously but I've followed my club for the better part of the last 13 years and I have rarely been surprised by a 'signing out of the blue'...The Da Silva rumours, I don't buy into them and don't see it happening

Rosell has deep ties to Brasil and so I knew when he became President the club would be routinely linked to Brasilian players

However, apart from say Adriano (Who was a signing out of the blue), transfer targets for the club are usually pretty easy to draw from the local media...And there are crickets chirping wrt Da Silva rumours to the club in the local media
 
Will Absolute said:
@ FCBarca

Those quotes mention nothing about a high offer from United, just City, and the stuff about always wanting to sign for Barca came after the fact, which is the kind of thing players say.
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I thought your OP was that you didn't buy into players taking less money or sunshine etc. to choose a club?...If both Udinese and Barça both said that other clubs offered more money, what other conclusion can be drawn?



Will Absolute said:
Sanchez may well have had a boyhood dream of playing for Barcelona, and wanted to sign for nobody else, but that wasn't what he was saying in the year leading up to his transfer, and those quotes, imo, don't categorically prove it, unless you regard Mr Pozzo as an impeccable source who's never told a lie or been guilty of exaggeration. Which I must admit, I don't.
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Oh I agree on Pozzo, he's a bit like a used car salesman...But I absolutely believe he was furious about the fact that he couldn't milk Alexis for more or that City was offering considerably more and couldn't get Sanchez to agree...There are reports from Chile that at one point Udinese tried to get him to get on a plane to go to Manchester to meet with City and the player refused

At the end of the day, the player says it wasn't about money, both clubs said more was being offered to move him elsewhere so it's hard to see how anyone could draw a different conclusion...Cesc, while a unique case, had similar issues as RM & AC Milan were both trying to derail the move to Barça but there was only ever one destination for the lad
 
@ FCBarca

This is all water under the bridge and there's no point in further flogging a dead horse or whatever metaphor is appropriate. So I'm going to call it a day.

I agree it's likely that he favoured Barca.
 
I can find the quote if nes we were involved but it was very early on, then we were never mentioned again, after that it was only Barca and City talked about.
 
Varun_Utd said:
It isnt just a case of how good they are now though, is it? They have fantastic potential, what they need is luck with injuries. I really think that injuries permitting, both will go on to be top footballers, so i'd be gutted if we lost them.

It isnt just about losing your top players, even the young ones with potential need to be held onto specially for clubs like United who invest more in youth than buying top stars.
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Ah yes that immeasurable subjective thing we call potential. They are replaceable. End of!
 
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