I wonder, should they ever move, if they will sign for the same club?!
Barca want Da Silva twins
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Can't see them moving, they seem the type to love the club and has been here 17/18. I do wonder whether the club would accept a considerable bid for them if it ever comes in
Fair enough, you've argued your point. Without getting bogged in every issue you've raised, I'll just say that you've twisted things a little.
Was Ronaldinho always destined for Barca, or could he just as easily have wound up at OT if we hadn't bungled the negotiations? Fergie certainly seemed to think so.
Spain is the first port-of-call for most Brazilian footballers - that's a historic reality - but that's not to say they wouldn't be happy to come to England if the opportunity arose.
The twins are settled in England; their home is there and they've never played senior football anywhere else. Why should they be itching to go to Spain?
Imo, the desertion of Ronaldo has unduly influenced opinions about the relative attractions of La Liga and Premiership football, or our ability to hold and attract top players. Most players don't care that much about the sunshine, and watching Barca or Real as a kid isn't likely to be decisive in their career decisions as an adult.
Definately. They'll play together all their career imo
I think they will stay at United for a long time, because potential suitors will have to deal with the complexities of buying two players rather than just one. For that reason alone, I think they will stay for a good 10 years.
That's a good question, there have been many footballing brothers in the game and not always playing together
I don't think Rafael would be in the cards for Barça because of Montoya providing depth for Dani along with Adriano...Fabio is the one that would make potential sense but I don't really see it...With Abidal possibly retiring, Alba is the most talked about cover but they'll need depth there so potentially Fabio could make some sense
I just think Pep would prefer to take a LB from La Liga who would have less of an issue adjusting to the league
A Premier League defender will have no issues settling into La Liga.
When's the last time a LB/RB made that transition?
It's an adjustment in that Pep doesn't have time for a season to go by for a player to acclimate...They have to pick things up quite rapidly, especially from the fullback position which is pretty vital to how Barça plays...Just watch, Abidal's absence is going to leave a gaping hole in their game
Being Brasilian however gives the lads an advantage since the playing style would not be a major leap
Heinze, Insua?
That's just the downside of the tactics Pepe uses. If 2 players are missing that aren't CB's or Valdes it's a different team.
Yeah, you are right. I can't think of cases in which that has occurred in the past and I am merely making a value judgement. That being said, I do not think fullbacks, especially those as attack minded as the twins will have any issue fitting into a possession guzzling Barcelona team. Many critics of Rafael and Fabio were actually tipping them off to be more suited to a formation employing wingbacks but evidence to the contrary, they (or Rafael at least) have developed positional awareness and the discipline to defend properly in the Premier League. It is also worth noting that this also shows that they seem to have a steep learning curve, so IMO they will have no issues at all.
But to respond to the rumour, no you can't have 'em.
But to respond to the rumour, no you can't have 'em.
Oh I didn't mean to suggest the Silvas couldn't adjust to Barça's style of play...I meant that there's no telling how long it would take them and generally, Pep is far more careful about who is bought outside of La Liga in terms of rapid adaptability
It used to be, you could buy a player and it could take a couple of seasons to see what they can provide but that isn't really the case anymore
It used to be, you could buy a player and it could take a couple of seasons to see what they can provide but that isn't really the case anymore
They would probably get injured less in Spain.
I take it that's been an issue with you guys?
To be fair they'd probably get whistled for a lot more fouls in Spain. Especially Rafael.
Their movement going forward in Spain would probably be a sight to behold though.
Ah, right scratch Insua. But Heinze I see no reason not to include. His early years in Spain were not defining.
It's not so bad because there are two of them.
To be fair they'd probably get whistled for a lot more fouls in Spain. Especially Rafael.
Their movement going forward in Spain would probably be a sight to behold though.
That's why i don't understand this talk of them maybe needing time to adapt to La Liga. They'd be an instant hit in Spain i reckon, its very easy see why Pep could be interested in them. Hopefully its not true.
NiceYes, it's stupid and puts pressure on the club more than anything. Money grabbing bastards.
Turns out it was a mistranslation, Pep wants the Djemba twins.
There were rumours last year that Barca saw Rafael as the succesor to Alves.
I hope there's no truth in this, they are both injury prone at the moment but they are great talents and fantastic little characters.
What makes this worse (If true) is that it's Barca and not Real, at least when Real tap up your players they pay top dollar, Barca always want them on the cheap like it's an honour to sell to them.
What makes this worse (If true) is that it's Barca and not Real, at least when Real tap up your players they pay top dollar, Barca always want them on the cheap like it's an honour to sell to them.
Doubtful, Montoya is sure to be that successor
Just saying it's not the first time I've heard this.
All this bullshit about sunny weather, glamour, culture and what not... It's all about the money in football, like most things in life.
The best players will mostly follow the cash and Real and Barca chuck it round big time.
If United and Real/Barca were competing for a player and we offered them an after tax salary that was 10-20% higher we would likely get the player.
The best players will mostly follow the cash and Real and Barca chuck it round big time.
If United and Real/Barca were competing for a player and we offered them an after tax salary that was 10-20% higher we would likely get the player.
No quotes from any officials? Check.
No reliable paper reporting it as of yet? Check.
Must be true then.
They are as good as gone.
Internet football sites never make things up.
Facht.
No reliable paper reporting it as of yet? Check.
Must be true then.
They are as good as gone.
Internet football sites never make things up.
Facht.
No one really knows who offered what in that deal.
I can't see Raf moving to Barcelona to understudy Alves for the next 2/3 years. Fabio is in a trickier position, with Fergie's obdurate determination to play Patrice in every game, come hell or high water.
We can go off the rumours that we went in with an offer of 25mil but were told he was only interested in Barcelona so left the game early on. City offered pretty much what you said about the higher wages and with an offer worth 12 million more, he still went to Barca. Part of that though is the fact the owner of Udinese is a huge Barca fan.
Don't think they are of that quality so no way will Barca sign any them. Not been convinced they will cement the full back position here.
They were just rumours though.
There was no official confirmation from us or, as far as I know, from Udinese that we had made an offer, still less the amount. The stories in the media of our interest were very strong, but I don't think we can be sure what went down.
After all, the press have been known to make things up, and this was a hot story. I agree that it's likely we were involved, and it's likely the player preferred Barca, but we can't rule out the possibility that we were simply unwilling to meet Udinese's valuation.
Pozzo confirmed we had made an offer. We just went out very quickly after it became apparent he was only interested in Barca. He went to Barca for €26 million euros (with 11 mil in variables) city offered €45 million. That was confirmed by Pozzo too.
Hopefully, if Barca are interested, then we'll be able to keep a hold of them and they'll be loyal to us. I don't expect that they'd show blind loyalty to us, but they don't striker me as money hungry mercenaries either.
If Soccer Manager is anything to go by, we could probably exchange them both and a bit of cash and get Iniesta. Throw in a bit more and you're looking at Messi.
I doubt it is true, if it is and they properly go for them I do believe their heads would be turned quite easily by Barcelona though.
Why would a move to Barcelona make a player money hungry?
If it was city who tempted them yes, but a lot of foreign players would pick Barc over us.
Did no one read the site?
"According to Caught offside".
A Bola is a pretty good source, Caught offside - 100% bs
"According to Caught offside".
A Bola is a pretty good source, Caught offside - 100% bs