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The only downside to Andres is that he is a little hot headed (for now). He accumulated the 10 yellows in the Apertura faster thatn any player I think. The problem is that he is so good that other players just take him down, knowing he'll do something stupid and get carded for it. New manager Pellegrinni has made it very clear to Andres that he needs to keep his head on. Other than that....the kid is a star in the making. His ball skills are something else.
He talks too much with the ref. Good thing is he is aware of it. However, it is a worrying issue with skilful players.
Here in Brazil the same is going on with Kaká, he has spent the last couple of weeks complaining about how they keep kicking him around and says he can't stand it anymore.
Problem being he is acting accordingly and has received more cards than the dirty defenders kicking him.
Referees probably have to protect both of them more and realise the current scenario is that they are yellow carding the wonder player for complaining about being kicked by people who are not getting punished! However, I am a bit wary about the Fair Play way of thinking.
Pele always got kicked (even harder) and got on with it. Same for Maradona. I can't fathom football turning into a game for pussies. What's the deal with the whole Keane-Haaland thing? Most players have done the same at some point. Defenders have always grabbed attackers butts, balls, elbowed or stuck their fingers up their arse holes before a corner or while walking past them. When they apparently "hold" the rival's head while picking them up after a tackle they are actually pulling their ear.
It's football, it has always been like that and it has always been glorious. I get a bit wary about all this cry-baby shit. LONG LIVE THE GAME!
Here in Brazil the same is going on with Kaká, he has spent the last couple of weeks complaining about how they keep kicking him around and says he can't stand it anymore.
Problem being he is acting accordingly and has received more cards than the dirty defenders kicking him.
Referees probably have to protect both of them more and realise the current scenario is that they are yellow carding the wonder player for complaining about being kicked by people who are not getting punished! However, I am a bit wary about the Fair Play way of thinking.
Pele always got kicked (even harder) and got on with it. Same for Maradona. I can't fathom football turning into a game for pussies. What's the deal with the whole Keane-Haaland thing? Most players have done the same at some point. Defenders have always grabbed attackers butts, balls, elbowed or stuck their fingers up their arse holes before a corner or while walking past them. When they apparently "hold" the rival's head while picking them up after a tackle they are actually pulling their ear.
It's football, it has always been like that and it has always been glorious. I get a bit wary about all this cry-baby shit. LONG LIVE THE GAME!
Andres was on a football show a month or two back and he explained his ties to River and said he will be loyal and thankful to them for giving him a chance. He also played down being called the new Maradona and seemed a very level-headed guy. His temperament may be one thing but hes also a bit light-weight for the Premiership. Hes still young but Id like to see him bulk up a bit before going to Europe or else hell be shoved off the ball too easily. In a few years Riquelme, Dallesandro and Kaka will be the leading players in Europe, though somehow I dont think in the Premiership, unfortunately.
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>Andres was on a football show a month or two back and he explained his ties to River and said he will be loyal and thankful to them for giving him a chance. He also played down being called the new Maradona and seemed a very level-headed guy. His temperament may be one thing but hes also a bit light-weight for the Premiership. Hes still young but Id like to see him bulk up a bit before going to Europe or else hell be shoved off the ball too easily. In a few years Riquelme, Dallesandro and Kaka will be the leading players in Europe, though somehow I dont think in the Premiership, unfortunately.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree with you to a certain extent. Juninho was a huge success for Boro in his first period there. I grant you that size would help but, as some would say, depends what you do with it
All three of them have great ability and dribbling. However, they should pass the ball more fluidly. Let's forget about the EPL being physical for a while, the Krauts are pretty tough as well, the Italians don't really let you run around freely either.
The problem would be the same everywhere, it's not about being caught/losing possession but continuously being fouled in possession. They will be, continuously, can't help it. That's were they need to work their way around whether to carry on with the ball and get fouled or whether the team will be better served continuing play by them passing the ball straight away (depends on attacking situation). Riquelme obviously has more experience by now but these two have to get wiser if they don't want to spend their careers being hunted down.
When they keep hold of the ball the foul could be argued as a tackle/went for the ball, etc. the issue is getting rid of it right before getting fouled, that's how you get the bastard to get stick!
Dallesandro would no trouble dealing with the pace of the Premiership imo. He chases back and hurries the opposition. He may be a bit to eager to jump in and tackle but thats ok. From what I have seen of Dallesandro in Argentina, he isnt afraid to be a team player and pass the ball a bit. Hes a bit like Veron in that sense, but a better dribbler imo. Excellent player, I have no doubt hed fare better in England than other South Americans in the past.
Gazza, I don't mean to say they are selfish players. I just mean that they have to be aware that most defenders can't handle them and will resort to fouling them so they shouldn't be surprised/angry at this, they should adapt their game to this reality.
Juninho did that extremely well during his first time at Boro, by the second time he had lost it a bit after his injury, playing at a different pace, etc. I believe it will be the same this time around (he carries the ball too much, which cost him his place in the Brazil squad).
Bebeto is another example of a slight player who learnt how to play in order not to be "hassled" out of the game.
Juninho did that extremely well during his first time at Boro, by the second time he had lost it a bit after his injury, playing at a different pace, etc. I believe it will be the same this time around (he carries the ball too much, which cost him his place in the Brazil squad).
Bebeto is another example of a slight player who learnt how to play in order not to be "hassled" out of the game.
Once they leave Argentina/Brazil to further their careers, they should pick things up if they go to Italy or Spaion. Theyll learn vital experience when they play for their respective countries, and the players in those squads who are already in Europe can tell them what its like. Say Kaka meets up with Rivaldo in the Brazil squad, he can ask him what to expect in Italy or Spain, and can then practice these new ways of playing. As for their (Kaka & Dallesandro) tempers, a manager like Capello, Hitzfield (or even Ferguson?) could curb his behaviour in to shape. Id say both are ready to play in Europe.
Yes, they can pick this up and have the ability to be world beaters. My point is, they are not the finished article and you have to take things one step at a time. You can't expect them to step in and be hugely successful straight away (an expectation we were entitled to have with Veron being a lot more experienced and all).
On temper, they are not hotheads, just complain about being kicked a bit too much and get on the ref's nerves. Not too difficult to handle/sort out but needing a good looking into. It is common for a manager to have the wrong perspective and side with his wonderboy who is getting kicked. The manager just needs to support him yet demand from him a better way to go about it. D'Alessandro got suspended for two games for having too many complaint-based yellow cards. It doesn't take a lot of brains to realise it is detrimental to the team.
On temper, they are not hotheads, just complain about being kicked a bit too much and get on the ref's nerves. Not too difficult to handle/sort out but needing a good looking into. It is common for a manager to have the wrong perspective and side with his wonderboy who is getting kicked. The manager just needs to support him yet demand from him a better way to go about it. D'Alessandro got suspended for two games for having too many complaint-based yellow cards. It doesn't take a lot of brains to realise it is detrimental to the team.
Im not the one saying Dallesandro should move to Europe straight away. I just think he is ready, and many know, probably including him, that this could be his last season in Argentina. Id prefer him to spend one more season at River, but youngsters are leaving home quicker for the big leagues it seems. Hes not the finished article, but hes as good as any other 21-year-old Ive seen.
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>Im not the one saying Dallesandro should move to Europe straight away. I just think he is ready, and many know, probably including him, that this could be his last season in Argentina. Id prefer him to spend one more season at River, but youngsters are leaving home quicker for the big leagues it seems. Hes not the finished article, but hes as good as any other 21-year-old Ive seen.
I totally agree with you about having one more season in Argentina to better ready himself. But things in Argentina are terrible right now. Look at what happenned to Riquelme's brother...he got kidnapped and was only released after the family paid something like $300,000. Riquelme would have stayed in Boca longer but the shape that the country is in forced him out sooner. I think unfortunately D'Allessandro is going next season...better have a safe career and not play as much righ taway than play everyday and have to worry about your safety and your familie's.