Bands that music snobs think are crap, but really aren't that bad

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The three themes that recurr in all such instances are a) one or more members of the band being dislikable in their public persona b) the band being lauded as belonging to the rock n roll pantheon when in actual fact their music is decent without being exceptional while paling in comparision to the greats c) their fans being influenced by the phenomon described in point b and having hugely inflated opinions about the band's worth.

In all cases you usually have one side who can't stand the band and an opposing side who love the band and can't fathom anyone thinking otherwise. This is often due to Side A being made up of elitist music snobs who worship Velvet Underground and whom, in addition to hating the band due to the reasons described above, also have a tendancy to assume that anyone who belongs to Side B isn't well informed about the classics or non-mainstream music to know better.

Anyway, without further ado

1) Coldplay- The only thing more tedious than the legion of twats who think Coldplay are our generation's answer to Led Zeppelin is the legion of twats who respond to the first legion of twats by overemphasising how crap they are. While they may be formulaic and over-polished, they also have great arrangements and make perfectly good pop-rock ballads.

If you want examples of polished mainstream bands that are truly awful, see the likes of Nickelback and Keane. Coldplay are a definite cut above.

2) Oasis- 15 years ago the British musical press were lauding them as the modern successors to the Beatles. Of course, they were wrong. Oasis are nothing more than a decent pop-rock act who get a lot of milage out of the three chord/big chorus formula. The problems start when people start pretending they're anything more, or for that matter, anything less. Their lyrics are horrible but their first two albums had some great tunes, while the B sides album had gems like 'The Masterplan'. Their subsequent albums have been fairly average but all have had one or two songs that were worth singing along to. All in all, a decent band, and anyone claims they're anything more, or less, is over-reaching

3) U2- Right up there with Coldplay when it comes to inspiring legions of twats to dub them genius, or awful. To be honest I find them less listenable than Coldplay or Oasis, but the Joshua Tree album was ok and listening to their best of compilation is something I can do without too many complaints.

4) Queen- Yes, that's right, I like them. Freddie Mercury had a phenomonal voice and there's rarely been a better band for drunken singalongs. Think what you want twats, I'm comfortable in my sexuality/musical taste.

The first three bands also include members such as Chris Martin, the Gallaghers and Bono, which don't help in terms of point a.
 
My friends hate The Kooks, Plain White Tees and the Blizzards, but there not that bad
 
Queen I have no complaints about, they're a quality act. Oasis I like and they're always good for a tune. U2 have overstayed their welcome and Coldplay, well I guess I'm a music snob because I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to Coldplay.
 
People who read Pitchfork and own B sides by MC5 and Iggy Pop and the Stooges.
 
sure people take shots at Queen for various things (May's god save the queen, the musical, etc.) but I think they are pretty well regarded in terms of their music. Oasis too, even if you're not a fan .

U2 and Coldplay I can agree with to a certain level. I heard Parachutes after Cold Play had been hailed as genius and garbage and personally still think it's a good album.
 
sure people take shots at Queen for various things (May's god save the queen, the musical, etc.) but I think they are pretty well regarded in terms of their music. Oasis too, even if you're not a fan .

U2 and Coldplay I can agree with to a certain level. I heard Parachutes after Cold Play had been hailed as genius and garbage and personally still think it's a good album.

Aye, there's loads of people who enjoyed Parachutes but joined the anti-Coldplay bandwagon after the other bandwagon started growing.
 
Good topic but do music snobs really disrespect queen? They are fecking awesome.

Linkin Park gets a lot of hate from music snobs but then again they get a lot of hate from everyone.
 
Heh, that's because Linkin Park are an unknowing self-parody of a band.
 
The Proclaimer.


I've had a few good drunken singalongs to The Proclaimers.

Another band who I also enjoy singing along to whilst drunk, but whom ultimately share the 'unknowing self-parody of a band' category with Linkin Park, are Bon Jovi. They represent the worst of cringe-worthy 80s hair-rock but, err, I like them. Sort of.
 
His computer goes tits up now and then. Beyond that, he's probably got loads of assignments to do. It's near the end our Uni semester.
 
Queen were shit. Bohemian Rhapsody being the biggest pile of steaming turd ever.
 
Queen are brilliant. Early U2 was pretty good, then they went too far up their own hole and are yet to return. To be fair this could be more down to Bono than anything else. the rest of the boys are apparently pretty sound. They had a Hotel in Dublin (still might im not sure), but my Uncle was a builder on the site. Occassionally they would turn up to see how the build was going, and according to him Bono was a prick but edge and the drummer are decent lads and would buy them pints.
 
Coldplay = shit

Oasis = horse shit

U2 = shit, aside from War

Queen = great band, what are you on about?
 
Pearl Jam. Still to meet somebody who cant mention PJ without bringing up Nirvana. The press has never seemed to want to let them move past the "ten"
period, and of course most people seem to believe Vedder's difficult and up his own arse.

For me they are one of the few bands ever to sound better live than recorded. And Vedder's one of the best frontmen ever.
 
I hate them people that will rave and rave about a band then as soon as they become famous they say something along the likes of "they're shit now they're famous, they're too commercial" It just makes me wanna chop them in the throat.
 
Pearl Jam. Still to meet somebody who cant mention PJ without bringing up Nirvana. The press has never seemed to want to let them move past the "ten"
period, and of course most people seem to believe Vedder's difficult and up his own arse.

For me they are one of the few bands ever to sound better live than recorded. And Vedder's one of the best frontmen ever.

People don't like Pearl Jam?

My only complaint is that they seem to have intentionally distanced themselves from producing the kind of music we know they can. Still good but imo lacking that final edge. This first became apparent to me on Vitalogy.
 
People don't like Pearl Jam?

My only complaint is that they seem to have intentionally distanced themselves from producing the kind of music we know they can. Still good but imo lacking that final edge. This first became apparent to me on Vitalogy.

Yeah. Screw those artistically-ever-growing, refuse-to-make-the-same-album-over-and-over, pretentious weirdos. It's evolution, baby.
 
find it strange that so many people are slating U2....

20 years and some great songs.....
 
The three themes that recurr in all such instances are a) one or more members of the band being dislikable in their public persona b) the band being lauded as belonging to the rock n roll pantheon when in actual fact their music is decent without being exceptional while paling in comparision to the greats c) their fans being influenced by the phenomon described in point b and having hugely inflated opinions about the band's worth.

In all cases you usually have one side who can't stand the band and an opposing side who love the band and can't fathom anyone thinking otherwise. This is often due to Side A being made up of elitist music snobs who worship Velvet Underground and whom, in addition to hating the band due to the reasons described above, also have a tendancy to assume that anyone who belongs to Side B isn't well informed about the classics or non-mainstream music to know better.

Anyway, without further ado

1) Coldplay- The only thing more tedious than the legion of twats who think Coldplay are our generation's answer to Led Zeppelin is the legion of twats who respond to the first legion of twats by overemphasising how crap they are. While they may be formulaic and over-polished, they also have great arrangements and make perfectly good pop-rock ballads.

If you want examples of polished mainstream bands that are truly awful, see the likes of Nickelback and Keane. Coldplay are a definite cut above.

2) Oasis- 15 years ago the British musical press were lauding them as the modern successors to the Beatles. Of course, they were wrong. Oasis are nothing more than a decent pop-rock act who get a lot of milage out of the three chord/big chorus formula. The problems start when people start pretending they're anything more, or for that matter, anything less. Their lyrics are horrible but their first two albums had some great tunes, while the B sides album had gems like 'The Masterplan'. Their subsequent albums have been fairly average but all have had one or two songs that were worth singing along to. All in all, a decent band, and anyone claims they're anything more, or less, is over-reaching

3) U2- Right up there with Coldplay when it comes to inspiring legions of twats to dub them genius, or awful. To be honest I find them less listenable than Coldplay or Oasis, but the Joshua Tree album was ok and listening to their best of compilation is something I can do without too many complaints.

4) Queen- Yes, that's right, I like them. Freddie Mercury had a phenomonal voice and there's rarely been a better band for drunken singalongs. Think what you want twats, I'm comfortable in my sexuality/musical taste.

The first three bands also include members such as Chris Martin, the Gallaghers and Bono, which don't help in terms of point a.


I agree with most of that, coldplay got blamed for starting a range of whiny shite trying to copy them but theyre ok themselves, oasis used to be quality so they have a legacy at least, early U2 were good theyve got worse as bonos ego gets bigger and ive never like queen.

Also i dont find chris martin that bad, he gets a hard time because him and his wife generally dont give the press the usual fodder to make rubbish up about, other than the ridiculous baby names

MY NOMINATION: DAVID GRAY, unfortunate to spawn such shite as james blunt et all but he himself has some amazing songs, "debauchery" is fecking brilliant, give it a listen if you dont know it. he has gone off the rails lately though
 
1) Coldplay- The only thing more tedious than the legion of twats who think Coldplay are our generation's answer to Led Zeppelin is the legion of twats who respond to the first legion of twats by overemphasising how crap they are. While they may be formulaic and over-polished, they also have great arrangements and make perfectly good pop-rock ballads.

If you want examples of polished mainstream bands that are truly awful, see the likes of Nickelback and Keane. Coldplay are a definite cut above.

2) Oasis- 15 years ago the British musical press were lauding them as the modern successors to the Beatles. Of course, they were wrong. Oasis are nothing more than a decent pop-rock act who get a lot of milage out of the three chord/big chorus formula. The problems start when people start pretending they're anything more, or for that matter, anything less. Their lyrics are horrible but their first two albums had some great tunes, while the B sides album had gems like 'The Masterplan'. Their subsequent albums have been fairly average but all have had one or two songs that were worth singing along to. All in all, a decent band, and anyone claims they're anything more, or less, is over-reaching

3) U2- Right up there with Coldplay when it comes to inspiring legions of twats to dub them genius, or awful. To be honest I find them less listenable than Coldplay or Oasis, but the Joshua Tree album was ok and listening to their best of compilation is something I can do without too many complaints.

4) Queen- Yes, that's right, I like them. Freddie Mercury had a phenomonal voice and there's rarely been a better band for drunken singalongs. Think what you want twats, I'm comfortable in my sexuality/musical taste.

The first three bands also include members such as Chris Martin, the Gallaghers and Bono, which don't help in terms of point a.

Only Queen of that list are good, great actually, everyone else are gay, especially U2.
 
Pearl Jam. Still to meet somebody who cant mention PJ without bringing up Nirvana. The press has never seemed to want to let them move past the "ten"
period, and of course most people seem to believe Vedder's difficult and up his own arse.

For me they are one of the few bands ever to sound better live than recorded. And Vedder's one of the best frontmen ever.

I think Pearl Jam would be quite respected amongst those people consider music snobs. I agree with everything you said about them above. Incredible band.
 
U2 made a couple of really good albums in the 80s but since then they`ve been just some bloated stadium rock band. No innovation, no soul. I suppose they`re a non-metal version of Metallica.

Queen also made like two or three good albums. But their discography spanned summat like fifteen records. Not a good strike rate. But they were great live. Probably the non-hard rock version of KISS.

Coldplay and Oasis are difficult to take seriously once you`ve heard The Bends or OK Computer.