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Ballon d'Or 2021 | Lewandowski robbed again
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Facts are facts — if you take the wrong top-3 (Jorginho finished ahead of Benzema) and carefully curate which relevant and not relevant stats you decide to include for it to support your argument, the picture is more or less worthless.
Not only are some of the statistics outright fake but they're also nitpicked to make Messi look good.
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Can anyone explain how Benzema's season is rated higher than Haaland's season despite worse stats + 0 trophies?
It's crazy seeing Haaland at 11th place in Ballon d'Or voting while Benzema was at 4th place
Stats from club competitions + internationals during calender year 2021 (from Transfermarkt)
Erling Haaland: 44 goals + 15 assists in 3920 minutes = 1.35 goal/assist per 90
Karim Benzema: 41 goals + 13 assists in 4791 minutes = 1.02 goal/assist per 90
It's crazy seeing Haaland at 11th place in Ballon d'Or voting while Benzema was at 4th place
Stats from club competitions + internationals during calender year 2021 (from Transfermarkt)
Erling Haaland: 44 goals + 15 assists in 3920 minutes = 1.35 goal/assist per 90
Karim Benzema: 41 goals + 13 assists in 4791 minutes = 1.02 goal/assist per 90
It's a popularity contest that's heavily favored towards Real Madrid and Barcelona. It's the football Oscars and should be treated like the meaningless industry circlejerk it is.
Aye, fairly obvious solution. For France Football it would have:
- Allowed them to reverse the decision to cancel the awards last year, which they no doubt immediately regretted given the vocal backlash
- Overcomed the sense of injustice that last year's top performer didn't get what they deserved, and was unfortunate again this year round
moronic take, he had the best Copa in its history. Lewa bottled the group stage in a poor group at the euros.
So they gave him an atrocious trophy as a goalscorer instead. I would be putting that well out of sight.
Awesome to see Messi will have the award at the Barca museum:
https://www.ara.cat/esports/barca/mes-or-museu-messi-barcelona_130_4197472.html
https://www.ara.cat/esports/barca/mes-or-museu-messi-barcelona_130_4197472.html
The Golden Ball has nothing to do with statistics
It's when football turns into art in the feet of some players
Can you compare Rubens De Vinci or Picasso with stats ?
It's when football turns into art in the feet of some players
Can you compare Rubens De Vinci or Picasso with stats ?
It's awesome (the word and the punishment)
Messi has consistently won annual UCL humiliation trophy in recent times. A young messi was a nemesis, simply too good for rest of the teams. But this old, lazy version of messi is not.
Cancelled the award in 2020 was idiotic decisions by France Football,I would agree with your idea.
A bunch of nitpicked statistics with plenty of them straight up being fake.
Messi hasn't been a top 50 player in the world since july ended.
Indeed. The arguing here suggests it has more credibility than it does.
It was too hard to justify giving it to Messi/Ronaldo/Mbappe last year, so they had to posptone it.
Messi is a complete attacker everyone knows that but Lewa and Messi play in a different roles and different jobs.So,compare the stats between them isn’t the right way to do.
If Messi had the year Ronaldo did in 2018, they would’ve created a “midfielder of the year award” for Modric and given Messi the Ballon D’or.
I’m surprised Lewandowski even attended the ceremony with the trash heap of a trophy they gave him that looked like it was cut from their disposal bin that night.
I’m surprised Lewandowski even attended the ceremony with the trash heap of a trophy they gave him that looked like it was cut from their disposal bin that night.
absolute bs, Messi tied an all time assist record and came in fifth that year for voting in 2018.
And will Ronaldo get epl humiliation awards with United having some of their worst losses in history to their rivals since Ronaldo joined?
Ridiculous and bias comment
I would say outside of UCL,Messi had performed better than Ronaldo in that year,Ronaldo in 2017-2018 was very incosinstency in La Liga especially in the early of season.I would say even 2018 Suarez had performed better than CR7 in the league all the year.
Messi won this year.
Jorghino (!) came 3rd?
Seems a bit bizarre to me.
Jorghino (!) came 3rd?
Seems a bit bizarre to me.
The world cup is 8 games. And doing the treble in a top five league is arguably a harder achievement than World Cup.
Btw, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but if I was one, I'd believe that PSG bought this award for Messi as part of the deal to get him to sign for them.
Then why not buy one for mbappe in 2018?
Those rivals are actually pretty good in Europe too. I would love to see how barca plays next week if bayern and lewa decided to go full throttle.
It's a farce what it is. Nobody should take this "award" seriously from now own.
ah, so when the rivals are good in Europe it’s okay but when they beat Messi then it’s humiliation for Messi.
how good was watford again? They’re awesome in Europe aren’t they?
Like Ajax, Porto and Lyon while Cristiano was at Juventus?
Where did I state that ballon d'or should have been given to Cristiano?
You really love the way barca has played in UCL in recent year?
It's crazy how a player's level of football can go from winning the Balon d'or to being the worst version of him many have seen all within the same year.
Apparently he has aged. Sounds like a teeny weeny excuse. Just couple months ago people were bigging up his Copa America win. Literally just a couple of months ago.
Anyway Well done Messi for winning the Balon'dor with Barcelona again! Let's see if he will be viewed that highly after his first year at PSG - Literally just months after his Balon D'or performances for Barcelona and Argentina.
Feel like he probably will to be honest.
Apparently he has aged. Sounds like a teeny weeny excuse. Just couple months ago people were bigging up his Copa America win. Literally just a couple of months ago.
Anyway Well done Messi for winning the Balon'dor with Barcelona again! Let's see if he will be viewed that highly after his first year at PSG - Literally just months after his Balon D'or performances for Barcelona and Argentina.
Feel like he probably will to be honest.
Oh sorry, was under impression you were talking how Messi used to get humiliated in Europe, so wanted to point out how Cristiano got as well, by some really small teams.
And we agree that he doesn't deserve Ballon d'Or, it's award for the best in football, something he hasn't been for a long time.
Individual players don't get "humiliated" in defeats. Teams lose. Cristiano didn't get humiliated, and Messi obviously didn't.
He was much better than Ronaldo in 2018 and should have ended ahead of him. Instead he ended up 5th despite being the best player on the planet with the best statistics, because he lacked 'the biggest trophies'.
Here we are in 2021 and the same people want the criteria flipped. It's enjoyable watching the bitterness
Some people don't actually watch the games, and their takes give that fact away.
… , but only 3 of his 4 goals were penalties. Single-handedly I tell you