Aymeric Laporte | Txiki doesn't forgive (except for when he does)

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I don't know if this was already posted in here but I just read that Pep (if he buys Laporte this winter) have spent more for his defence as Real, Bayern and Benfica combined spent for players overall since July 2016.
You're wrong. Pep doesn't sign players, players sign for free to play under Pep.
 
60m + 200k wages on Laporte?

Sums it up, City got the money. Sanchez just prefer United over City so he can get more playing time. Money involves but not the main factor.
 
Super coaching genius and all around super human being Pep strikes again, no mere mortal could win legue titles with barca, bayern and then spend 200 million on a defence and win one with citeh :)
 
It takes a genius to spend this much money to win a title, I don't think I could do it.
 
60m + 200k wages on Laporte?

Sums it up, City got the money. Sanchez just prefer United over City so he can get more playing time. Money involves but not the main factor.

Kompany and Otamendi are City's highest earning defenders on £120k p/w.

Do you really think Laporte, 23 and coming from a club where he is lucky to be on even half of that, is going to be on £200k p/w - only two players in City's squad are earning this much - Aguero and KDB (as of last week).

As with most players, he'll be on a basic salary of around £80-100k p/w - there may be the slightest chance he hits £200k p/w through performance bonuses if City win a quadruple and he has the season of his life, but that is significantly unlikely.

It's how all of City's contracts work and it was implemented by Soriano, structured in the same way he did at Barca. If the players win everything, they're massively rewarded, if they win nothing, they have a lower basic wage when compared to most top clubs.
 
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Not everything is about Sanchez, let it go you’ll be much better for it. Not wanting to commit high wages on a 29-year old in a position we are by far the most effective in the league, is not the same as agreeing to spend a hefty transfer fee for a 23-year old, in an area we have two good defenders for 2 spots, and then nothing beyond that.

We already have one older attacker in Aguero who will cost a fortune to replace in a few years time. Replacing Sanchez would have been just as difficult!

The point is that the media have been spouting that Sanchez only went to United for money and that we are ruining football with the wages we pay. But City are going to spend another £50m on a player, regardless of age, City are still spending a bucket load. But nothing will get said about the almighty Pep. The media agenda is sickening.
 
Kompany and Otamendi are City's highest earning defenders on £120k p/w.

Do you really think Laporte, 23 and coming from a club where he is lucky to be on even half of that, is going to be on £200k p/w - only two players in City's squad are earning this much - Aguero and KDB (as of last week).

As with most players, he'll be on a basic salary of around £80-100k p/w - there may be the slightest chance he hits £200k p/w through performance bonuses if City win a quadruple and he has the season of his life, but that is significantly unlikely.

It's how all of City's contracts work and it was implemented by Soriano, structured in the same way he did at Barca. If the players win everything, they're massively rewarded, if they win nothing, they have a lower basic wage when compared to most top clubs.

Nope I don't think so but looking at how people are trusting Sanchez 350k, 500k, 450k. I don't see anything wrong to believe this.
 
Nope I don't think so but looking at how people are trusting Sanchez 350k, 500k, 450k. I don't see anything wrong to believe this.

Because Sanchez is 29, world class, had an agreement with City at £275k p/w, went to United (who are known to be one of the biggest payers) and was 6 months off being able to join anywhere he wanted with an unprecedented signing bonus.

There's a lot of factors to suggest that £350k+ is a very realistic amount and the only journalists to really go against the grain and say it was less were Miguel Delaney and Jamie Jackson (which speaks for itself). Decent, reliable journalists have said he's going to be the PL's top earner - until we have a leak that says otherwise, or all reliable journalists come out saying it's not true, people are going to believe it.

Saying a 23 year old CB, joining from Bilbao is going to be one of City's highest earners is clutching at straws and highly unrealistic.
 
Laporte can play as a centralDefender and leftback, that means he is a direct challenge for Stones and Delph [lack of positioning as a classic LB], but a long-term investment when Otamendi retires.

Pep need a replacement for Fernandinho, he left his central defenders alone [match againts liverpool]. Someone like Casemiro.

pd: hope i made my point
 
Laporte can play as a centralDefender and leftback, that means he is a direct challenge for Stones and Delph [lack of positioning as a classic LB], but a long-term investment when Otamendi retires.

Pep need a replacement for Fernandinho, he left his central defenders alone [match againts liverpool]. Someone like Casemiro.

pd: hope i made my point
Otamendi is only 29...
 
Such a genius this pep is. All he needs is money.
How much more money does Jose need to play the kind of football Pep does? I know the poor guy has been working on a shoe string budget, hence the need to play some utter dross at times. Klopp also must have spent far more than our poor Jose. That's the only explanation I've got as to why our football is downright boring at times.
 
How much more money does Jose need to play the kind of football Pep does? I know the poor guy has been working on a shoe string budget, hence the need to play some utter dross at times. Klopp also must have spent far more than our poor Jose. That's the only explanation I've got as to why our football is downright boring at times.

Uh oh Pep Cafe on the rise again? I thought the Alexis stuff had killed that.

Pep spent £191.70m in 2016/17 and then £221.13m in 2017/18. A total of £413.83m.
Jose spent £166.50m in 2016/17 and then £183.96m in 2017/18. A total of £350.46.

Allegedly, Pep is also about to spend nearly £60m on Laporte and possibly another £40m on Fred. So by the close of the January transfer window Pep might've spent half a billion on City's squad.

By that calculation I'd say if we give Jose another £150m then we can start comparing his work to Pep's. Particularly as Pep inherited the likes of DeBruyne and Silva, whilst our squad had been burdened by the philosophy and players of Van Gaal.

PS) Not sure why you're bringing Liverpool into this, especially after their £75m defender just got an assist against them for the bottom placed side in the league
 
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Uh oh Pep Cafe on the rise again? I thought the Alexis stuff had killed that.

Pep spent £191.70m in 2016/17 and then £221.13m in 2017/18. A total of £413.83m.
Jose spent £166.50m in 2016/17 and then £183.96m in 2017/18. A total of £350.46.

Allegedly, Pep is also about to spend nearly £60m on Laporte and possibly another £40m on Fred. So by the close of the January transfer window Pep might've spent half a billion on City's squad.

By that calculation I'd say if we give Jose another £150m then we can start comparing his work to Pep's. Particularly as Pep inherited the likes of DeBruyne and Silva, whilst our squad had been burdened by the philosophy and players of Van Gaal.

PS) Not sure why you're bringing Liverpool into this, especially after their £75m defender just got an assist against them for the bottom placed side in the league.
When did I say Pep didn’t spend more? I was responding to the snarky “pep’s a genius coz he spends” post. The truth is he might spend heavily but he plays the best football in the country by a mile. Liverpool have spent far less than us but also play much better football. I was trying to say that spending money isn’t the main reason why city are as attractive to watch as they are.
 
Great player. Makes sense - Kompany and Mangala should both be shown the exit door.

Though would be a gamble by Guardiola to play Laporte and Stones together, right of the bat. Feels like both still need a more rugged, physical partner alongside them to compensate and balance out the centre of defence. So you'd assume Laporte would get a handful of games between now and the end of the season.

In time they could be a brilliant ball-playing defensive duo, but you could rough them up - and I don't see how that would change, because short of City having 100% of the ball, there will always be occasions in games when a Stones/Laporte duo will leave you vulnerable.

More so than his time at Barca and Bayern, Pep is creating a team that is all beauty and little brawn. I have my doubts as to how sustainable that is. Although even the daintiest of players can be instructed to concede tactical fouls, eh Pep?
 
He didn't sign Sterling. Also I was replying to the comment about only getting cream of the crop to play his football. Walker Sterling etc are hardly cream of the crop.

I made the point that he inherited a really good squad.

In England there aren't many full backs better than Walker but Pep doesn't need to worry cos he signed three last summer anyway.

Pep Cafe is a crazy place to be sometimes. :rolleyes:
 
Funny that they were a shambles at the back last season despite spending a fortune. Only after another £130m spent on the defence are they now solid at the back. That's what you call good 'coaching'.

As far as I'm concerned Guardiola doesn't have a clue how to coach defenders; and there is ample amounts of evidence to prove that at every club he's gone to. He prefers to turn defenders into midfielders and leaves them exposed.
 
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Funny that they were a shambles at the back last season despite spending a fortune. Only after another £130m spent on the defence are they now solid at the back. That's what you call good 'coaching'.

As far as I'm concerned Guardiola doesn't have a clue how to coach defenders; and there is ample amounts of evidence to prove that at every club he's gone to. He prefers to turn defenders into midfielders and leaves them exposed.

Watched quite a bit of city this season they certainly aint solid at the back, teams are just 2 scared to attack them as they see what citys front line could do, pressure them and they will crumble look at the pool game, Zaha at palace created plenty chances against them, also when watched the game v arsenal at the etihad they could have scored 3/4 goals apart from there poor finishing. Just takes a team to be brave but its easier said than done
 
Watched quite a bit of city this season they certainly aint solid at the back, teams are just 2 scared to attack them as they see what citys front line could do, pressure them and they will crumble look at the pool game, Zaha at palace created plenty chances against them, also when watched the game v arsenal at the etihad they could have scored 3/4 goals apart from there poor finishing. Just takes a team to be brave but its easier said than done
We just have to hope that next season teams are braver. They might as well be. Then it will not matter who they sign. Might as well go down fighting.
 
This guy is literally buying a whole new 11. Apart from sterling he has not improved any of the players that were already there at city before he joined. KDB , aguero,silva, fernandinho and kompany were already top players.

Compare that to Jose he has made lingard thrice the player, martial has improved his overall play, rashford apart fromlast one month has been on the rise, Herrera became our best midfielder last season, TonyV has become one of the best RB, Ashley young, yes Ashley freaking young, has become a decent lb that he he has been called to England squad, Jones is having his best season since sir Alex left.DE gea was already world class so won't count him.

Had pep joined us he would have demanded 900m to get a squad he likes to implement his philosophy. And considering unlike in city here we had zero midfielder bar Herrera and zero attack in 2016. I won't call pep a fraud or anything but he has his limitations. I can't see this pep going to arsenal or Liverpool and making them world beaters with their limited budget. One defeat and he goes into the panic mode and demands money to buy more defenders. I won't be surprised if he spends another 150m this summer and make it even more stronger. feck FFP
 
Laporte can play as a centralDefender and leftback, that means he is a direct challenge for Stones and Delph [lack of positioning as a classic LB], but a long-term investment when Otamendi retires.

Pep need a replacement for Fernandinho, he left his central defenders alone [match againts liverpool]. Someone like Casemiro.

pd: hope i made my point

And thats why they are going after Fred, as I really cant see Casemiro leaving them anytime soon
 
Because Sanchez is 29, world class, had an agreement with City at £275k p/w, went to United (who are known to be one of the biggest payers) and was 6 months off being able to join anywhere he wanted with an unprecedented signing bonus.

There's a lot of factors to suggest that £350k+ is a very realistic amount and the only journalists to really go against the grain and say it was less were Miguel Delaney and Jamie Jackson (which speaks for itself). Decent, reliable journalists have said he's going to be the PL's top earner - until we have a leak that says otherwise, or all reliable journalists come out saying it's not true, people are going to believe it.

Saying a 23 year old CB, joining from Bilbao is going to be one of City's highest earners is clutching at straws and highly unrealistic.

Yes! A club is willing to spend £350k+ of wages on a player is realistic but when a club with a lot of money like City isn't realistic to pay £200k per week you say.

You look at De Bruyne basic contract is £200k with bonus potential rise up to £260k. So that £200k p/w for Laporte might also include bonus like he needs to be in team of the year or wins Champions League or something which makes it more realistic.

First of all, let me tell you there was never a proof where both Sanchez & City had agreement of £275k p/w this January. Sanchez rejected City can be any factor beside money. If it's about money, City always has the power to match it.

And when the wages are keep changing every day you can't say it's "very realisitic". Some said Sanchez wages would be around Pogba's wages which is £290k p/w. £300k p/w alone is considered to be PL's top earner which more realistic than £350k+
 
Funny that they were a shambles at the back last season despite spending a fortune. Only after another £130m spent on the defence are they now solid at the back. That's what you call good 'coaching'.

As far as I'm concerned Guardiola doesn't have a clue how to coach defenders; and there is ample amounts of evidence to prove that at every club he's gone to. He prefers to turn defenders into midfielders and leaves them exposed.
With this signing that's now £295 million spent by Pep on defenders and GK's in less than 2 seasons. Great coaching.
 
With this signing that's now £295 million spent by Pep on defenders and GK's in less than 2 seasons. Great coaching.

You mean the coaching of the retiring Zabaleta, Clichy, Kolarov, Kompany, and the great Joe Hart?
 
Uh oh Pep Cafe on the rise again? I thought the Alexis stuff had killed that.

Pep spent £191.70m in 2016/17 and then £221.13m in 2017/18. A total of £413.83m.
Jose spent £166.50m in 2016/17 and then £183.96m in 2017/18. A total of £350.46.

Allegedly, Pep is also about to spend nearly £60m on Laporte and possibly another £40m on Fred. So by the close of the January transfer window Pep might've spent half a billion on City's squad.

By that calculation I'd say if we give Jose another £150m then we can start comparing his work to Pep's. Particularly as Pep inherited the likes of DeBruyne and Silva, whilst our squad had been burdened by the philosophy and players of Van Gaal.

PS) Not sure why you're bringing Liverpool into this, especially after their £75m defender just got an assist against them for the bottom placed side in the league

This needs thread marking.

Thanks for showing city up for the money spending cnuts they are. Plastic bastards.
 
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