Re the fee I read somewhere (can't remember where) around £1.5m
Ayden Heaven | Signs from Arsenal
- Thread starter top1whoisman
- Start date
I was thinking that, I don't think he's going to be playing under 21's much after parading him on the field.
I did see the quotes and knew we had big plans for him, I just thought it would take a while. Maybe bed him in first with the youth system for 6 months or something. Early days so let’s see.
He literally said he’s joining the first team squad.
Yes. Joining the team and being ready to be a first team player, that’s what I’m getting at. Let’s see how he performs.
He'll be taking Godwills place in the squad for the rest of the season
Best one I've seen online.
How does this lad compare to Kukonki?
He feels like a specific system player who is much more suited in a team that plays 3 in the back to offset the supposed defensive deficiencies, especially in Amorim’s system where one of the CBs can step up and act as a extra midfielder who can pass (dream scenario for us is that CB is a decent deep lying playmaker). I’ve seen gooners saying that his passing is one of his strongest attributes.
Him in a traditional back 4 would make him look mediocre. In the Amorim 3-4-3 he’d look much more suitable.
Him in a traditional back 4 would make him look mediocre. In the Amorim 3-4-3 he’d look much more suitable.
Amad has been fairly average, but it’s moments of quality like that pass that highlight his true ability. Unlucky from Bruno.
With Martinez injured, will he now be thrown in sooner than expected?
Probably on the bench at some point
Got Luke Shaw back on training, so maybe the week after he will be needed.
Probably, yeah.
[editted]
This lad has never played for the Arsenal 1st team, other than a 10 minute cameo at the end of a Carabao cup match when it was all over.
Throwing him into our dismal 1st team would be ridiculous.
This lad has never played for the Arsenal 1st team, other than a 10 minute cameo at the end of a Carabao cup match when it was all over.
Throwing him into our dismal 1st team would be ridiculous.
Last edited:
Yes he has
Appreciate this. So in the UK, or PL, most players up to 17 year old are fairly fair game for other teams to talk too? As I wasn't just alluding to him, but also Chido. I'm just looking at others in the same age that I know of, so say Mikey Moore, and looks like Spurs signed him into a 3 year deal straight after he turned 17.
I don't keep up much obviously!
He has 10 minutes or senior football. In the Carabao. Context matters.
The statement was incorrect.
Duly edited .
Context was correct though.
He’s an inexperienced youth squad player.
Correct that he hasn't played much at all but to say he hasn't played in the first team was wrong yes.
Want to share more?
He's played for the first team. Go look it up.
We know. You’re just arguing for the sake of arguing. The guy said he has pretty much no senior experience which is a fact.
That’s not what the post said. You are trying to change what was said after the fact because it was wrong
This is pointless.
Move on then.
Very strange move because an 18-year-old first-team player is exactly what we don’t need right now when we’re crying out for quality. Big question marks on Dorgu as well. Ideally, we should be signing 24-26 yo players who are about to hit their prime.
He’s been signed as a backup not a starter.
Like?
We didn't know Martinez was going to get injured. He's a project and we shouldn't expect much for the next few years.
Do you think we should cancel the U21 team and the U18 just because we need reinforcements in the first team? Or is it that you think we could have gotten a first team reinforcement about to hit his prime for the €1.8m spent on Heaven?
They’d cost an awful lot in fee and salary though. United are trying to bring both down currently.
I think they’ll thin out the high earners in the near future, signing mostly young ‘squad players’ with a high sealing on low-ish wages.
Guessing he will be starting on Friday
In reality he's cheap and could play for the u21s if he doesnt perform well enough for the first team in training and as a sub. I know Wilcox has said hes for the first team but if fans arent patient with Yoro this guy has doesnt have the slightest chance
Heaven and Yoro are for the future.
We can’t expect miracles from these two 18 year olds, playing where solid experience is a vital asset.
We can’t expect miracles from these two 18 year olds, playing where solid experience is a vital asset.
Even putting them in the same sentence seems silly. At 18 Yoro was playing weekly for Lille. Heaven is unlikely to get many first team mins
Well, we’ve already spent a fortune on the Yoro project, and it’s off to a rocky start. Hopefully, he follows the Amad and Dalot path by going on loans instead of being thrown into the deep end.
It's fine if he's indeed playing with the U21, but if he's first team bound as announced then it's a very puzzling move.
I understand the strategy, but this is exactly how the squad keeps getting weaker each year, while the young players don’t even have proper role models to look up to or offer relief during poor spells. Rasmus and Zirkzee are a direct product of this new model.
I'm guessing the poster doesn't have a worldwide scouting network at his fingertips.