R'hllor
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Really liked what i saw.
He's become ridiculously overrated on here. He was consistently out played by Tyrone Mings last season but somehow he is now our best CB. He did no better than Smalling or Jones today either and was even caught out and put in a terrible tackle. While Jones dealt with more attacks and cut them all out with ease. He's a good talent. He's nowhere near our best CB at the moment.
How is calling him better than Lindelof, Smalling and Jones anything but overrating him when he quite clearly isn't. He isn't better than Mings but is better than every CB here? Shall we sign Tyrone Mings then?Don't think he is being over rated personally. Tyrone Mings is older and has more PL experience on his side. Completely disagree about he did no better than Smalling. Perth were a pretty poor side yet Smalling still managed to find himself the wrong side of an attacker on more than one occasion.
How is calling him better than Lindelof, Smalling and Jones anything but overrating him when he quite clearly isn't. He isn't better than Mings but is better than every CB here? Shall we sign Tyrone Mings then?
And Axel found himself being forced to put in a ridiculous challenge that could have got himself sent off or at least booked and then did pretty much nothing else as Jones cleaned up the few threats they created.
It is simple, he isn't our best CB.
He's a new fan favourite at the minute. Give it a few months and a wobbly performance or two and he'll be on the chopping board too.He's become ridiculously overrated on here. He was consistently out played by Tyrone Mings last season but somehow he is now our best CB. He did no better than Smalling or Jones today either and was even caught out and put in a terrible tackle. While Jones dealt with more attacks and cut them all out with ease. He's a good talent. He's nowhere near our best CB at the moment.
They play for one of the best teams in the league because they are better than him. Axel meanwhile played in the Championship and was consistently outplayed by Tyrone Mings. Tyrone Mings wouldn't be our best CB. Villa conceded 61 in a far weaker league.And Lindelof, Smalling, Jones etc played in one of the best teams in the league in front of one of the best keepers in the world and still managed to concede 54 league goals. Yes, Tuanzebe has things he has to work on but so does the others. He's the one with the highest potential and based on what I've seen for the past 3-4 months, he's the best one. I know it's a big statement, but I believe that. I get your point though.
Jones our best? Had to recover because of shit positioning loads of times.He was pretty quick and that was it. Got beaten in air couple of times . Out of our 4 CBs played today Jones > Smalling > Rojo > Axel.
He was pretty quick and that was it. Got beaten in air couple of times . Out of our 4 CBs played today Jones > Smalling > Rojo > Axel.
They play for one of the best teams in the league because they are better than him. Axel meanwhile played in the Championship and was consistently outplayed by Tyrone Mings. Tyrone Mings wouldn't be our best CB. Villa conceded 61 in a far weaker league.
It doesn't matter what the others have to work on, they are better than him. Nor does potential make him better than players. Sure he can be better than them, but he isn't. You like Axel, that is cool. That doesn't make him a better footballer than he actually is.
A lot of Villa fans thought he was better than MingsI think you know that it doesn't work like that.
"Consistently outplayed" according to who? I saw a lot of Axel last season and although Mings was good I wouldn't say he was consistently outplaying Axel. Well, I guess we will find out this season if he's up to the task or not.
He's become ridiculously overrated on here. He was consistently out played by Tyrone Mings last season but somehow he is now our best CB. He did no better than Smalling or Jones today either and was even caught out and put in a terrible tackle. While Jones dealt with more attacks and cut them all out with ease. He's a good talent. He's nowhere near our best CB at the moment.
How is calling him better than Lindelof, Smalling and Jones anything but overrating him when he quite clearly isn't. He isn't better than Mings but is better than every CB here? Shall we sign Tyrone Mings then?
And Axel found himself being forced to put in a ridiculous challenge that could have got himself sent off or at least booked and then did pretty much nothing else as Jones cleaned up the few threats they created.
It is simple, he isn't our best CB.
What a weird postThe only youth player from the academy who has a future in the 1st team. I will be furious if he goes out on loan again it will do him more harm than good.
It is alredy too many CBs. Tuanzebe, Lindelof and Bailly need minutes to develop, and Jones, Smalling and Rojo need minutes just keep up. There is no way they can keep all those players if Maguire joins. That means they will basically rotate one spot for six players. Makes more sense trying to get rid of two CBs and establish one solid CB pair and at the same time develop Bailly, Tuanzebe and Lindelof (Lindelof should however be part of that established CB pair if he continues to improve from last season).I'm leaning towards one more season at Villa, personally. Honestly if we get Maguire I'd hope we move two of them on, they're just injury-riddled liabilities at this point, who are just taking up squad spaces.
The pressure put on the defenders is also one major difference between the PL and the Championship. A CB in the Championship gets all the time in the world to pick a pass while the pressure in the PL often is very strong.This has also been a success factor for some British teams in the CL.Plus, Perth put very little pressure on any of our CBs today meaning anyone would've looked good there. I think he's got a bright future but I'm not convinced he should be near our first team yet.
According to myself who regularly watched Villa and 99% of their supporters on the Villa forum I frequent. He's easily regarded as better than Axel and he isn't better than our CBs. In fact, Mings just had a thread on here where he was mocked.I think you know that it doesn't work like that.
"Consistently outplayed" according to who? I saw a lot of Axel last season and although Mings was good I wouldn't say he was consistently outplaying Axel. Well, I guess we will find out this season if he's up to the task or not.
Everyone in a starting XI isn't the same level. Not very hard to understand. Mings was better than him. Fairly simple concept.Outplayed? They both play together. It’s not like Mings put him on the bench. Not sure how can you manage calling a player who played very well in starting XI as outplayed? Just because Mings acted more like a leader in defense over 21 years old centre back doesn’t mean it’s called outplayed.
Axel to me looks better on the ball than Mings. A player like Axel would help improve the build up from the back whilst Mings wouldn't be a improvement on Smalling in anything IMO.I visited this forum https://www.villatalk.com/forum/16-villa-talk/ frequently after his performances and I never got the idea that they easily rated Mings better. If they did, it wasn't easily and I also watched his performances. All in all, they were very happy with Mings and Axel. They only had problems with Axel when Axel wasn't a CB. Their only complaint about Axel is that he's still not that strong in the air, which is something all of us agree even if we rate him.
Him and Maguire would be a good combo.Axel to me looks better on the ball than Mings. A player like Axel would help improve the build up from the back whilst Mings wouldn't be a improvement on Smalling in anything IMO.
According to myself who regularly watched Villa and 99% of their supporters on the Villa forum I frequent. He's easily regarded as better than Axel and he isn't better than our CBs. In fact, Mings just had a thread on here where he was mocked.
Everyone in a starting XI isn't the same level. Not very hard to understand. Mings was better than him. Fairly simple concept.
Good decision. He isn't ready to play for us.Going out on loan apparently according to Howson
Hopefully to a PL side.Going out on loan apparently according to Howson
Almost certainly. He mentioned it'll most likely be Villa again but they've bought in a couple of defenders so we'll see.Hopefully to a PL side.