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Ray Wilkins scores again Brighton. Wembley 1983
1969/70 season. We played City at home in the FA Cup, 4th round. Malcolm Allison thought City were certainties and said as much in the Evening News. Willie Morgan scored from the spot and Brian Kidd scored two in a 3-0 win for us.
Six foot two, eyes of blue, big Jim Holton's after you... (in this case it was Derek Dougan of Wolves and Northern Ireland)
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I still don't know how he managed to get the ball to dip down as he was falling backwards.
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Those goals
The relief
I got seriously rat-arsed that night.
1969/70 season. We played City at home in the FA Cup, 4th round. Malcolm Allison thought City were certainties and said as much in the Evening News. Willie Morgan scored from the spot and Brian Kidd scored two in a 3-0 win for us.
Great days.
OMG you're opening up all the great memories. This is wonderful, ain't seen this stuff for years. I lost all my old United collection when I divorced.....
The Greenhoff goal...
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Big Ron's greatest signing.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha. I was in the Scoreboard paddock that game, nearly got shut out.......
Big Ron's greatest signing.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha. I was in the Scoreboard paddock that game, nearly got shut out.......
Great days.
OMG you're opening up all the great memories. This is wonderful, ain't seen this stuff for years. I lost all my old United collection when I divorced.....
I've got all manner of stuff in storage in my sister's attic; scarves, programmes, autographs, photos, the lot. There's a suitcase full of United-related stuff that belonged to my dad and granddad. One of these days, I'll have to visit her and sort through it all. Meanwhile, what a difference a year makes...
Misery in 1976
Joy in 1977.
Remember Tommy Kavanagh who's pictured in the first photo? He used to make a point of running past the Stretford End geeing everyone up during the match.
Just reminded of this in the 'Favourite title winning campaign' thread:
Classic Schmeichel save against Rapid Vienna in the early stages of the 96/97 Champion's League campaign:
I've got all manner of stuff in storage in my sister's attic; scarves, programmes, autographs, photos, the lot. There's a suitcase full of United-related stuff that belonged to my dad and granddad. One of these days, I'll have to visit her and sort through it all. Meanwhile, what a difference a year makes...
Misery in 1976
Joy in 1977.
Remember Tommy Kavanagh who's pictured in the first photo? He used to make a point of running past the Stretford End geeing everyone up during the match.
Hey mate, this stuff is outstanding.
When Tommy Cavanagh ran around everyone would call out his name and cheer. We would try and get him off the bench during those boring moments. Not sure if you're aware but he died in 2007 of Alzheimer's.
A little story. Remember the final games before we got relegated? At Chelsea we won 1-3 and we began to believe we could escape the drop.
One game was away to Norwich in April 1974 and we won 0-2 but it was more memorable for the violence. Fans were on the roof at Carrow Road and all sorts of mayhem. The police went bonkers and piled in on everyone. After the game we finally made it to the station and got near a train when the police went crazy with dogs. Everyone scattered, I got on a train, not even looking where it was going. The police followed and were battering anybody and everybody. As I got down the carriage a copper was trying to smash his way through a load of fans to get on the train. I slammed the door in his face and ran up the train.
Tommy Cav and Tommy doc were walking down the train telling the fans to go in First Class and he would cover the cost. Tommy Doc was furious with the police because they had attacked some fans who were clearly not troublemakers. I got into a compartment and found myself sat with Brian Greenhoff, and Lou Macari. The players got us to remove scarves and stuff. The police walked past but didn't bother us. Then Tommy Doc came in and we stayed there until the end of the journey. They were crazy days but the lads and Tommy's were great with the fans - it was more like a family.
At the cup final Tommy Doc was going around with the trophy lid on his head. It was utter madness in the crowd. Someone nearby started passing around beers and some guys were shaking their cans so the foam went everywhere. I remember getting home stinking of booze because there was more over us than we actually drank. They were crazy days
Cantona scoring against Porto in our 4-0 home victory in 1997. It was the first time I remember us really blasting a team away in the Champion's League:
Interestingly we got Southampton away in '77 in the cup in one of the early rounds I managed to get a ticket from one of my dad's mates who lived in Southampton. Absolute brilliant atmosphere. United went ahead twice and many fans raced onto the pitch each time we scored. It sounded as though 3/4 of the ground were United. Right bunch of thugs we were
This.
Btw nearby to you from Cheetham Hill 1957. You and Moriarity have generated some great memories. I travelled a lot with the Cockney Reds in seasons 1973-1977. They were crazy days, like sowing badges on Levi jackets and scarves around our wrists and belts. I don't know about you but I constantly take a beating from younger fans about being hooligans when discussing the 70s. Some are surprised that I actually saw some games and can recall incidents! The cup finals in the 70s and 80s were great games and fantastic atmospheres. The 90s were also special with Eric in a different way. Since 1999 I think our culture has been heavily watered down by finance, market behaviour and the prawn butty brigade. I wouldn't trade our memories of the 70s, they were special, it was like a right of passage. Maybe we should start up an old farts corner?
I remember us winning three on the bounce near the end of the season. I missed the Chelsea game but went to Norwich when it all kicked off. I recall someone fell through the stand roof down on to the concrete below. I remember us beating Everton 3-0 about that time and thinking we might avoid the drop but we lost three games 1-0, including City at home.
I did know that Tommy Cav had died. Sad news that. Shame on me spelling his name with a K instead of a C. The old memory must be getting a bit soft.
Great story about the Doc and the players. Years after he left United, he used to drink at the Bull in Halebarns. He was always approachable and he would always tell great stories about his time at Old Trafford.
I use to make the mistake of traveling by train when I was younger. Got the shit kicked out me quite a few times. The last time was late 70s when we played Forest away. United fans went crazy throwing the Forrest fans into the river on the way back over the bridge towards the city center. Cops were not too impressed and after laying into us all, regardless of our involvement, they then forced us on to trains. Didn't matter where they were going, they just wanted us out of Nottingham. Ended up on a London express train, that was forced to stop and pick us up. Ended up getting set on by a very large number of Charlton fans, who would have thought, coming back from Blackpool I think it was, who obviously thought they would make a name for themselves. Train had to be stopped at Luton so the fans could be treated. After that, we gained driving licenses so started going by car/bus/van whatever. Gave the train a wide berth.
I think too many people refer to the prawn sarnie brigade with a bit of ignorance. I have 2 season tickets in the Stretford end, which I give to my mate's kids. My mates and me, probably about 20, then got executive tickets from the guy who owns a business backing onto OT. I think he gets them for free, but he charged us a small fortune. When we went to the home games and sat in the North stand with the executives, I would say there are at least 200, that I use to travel to away games with. Even though we haven't quite got our zimmer frames, we are not far off. When I use to go to the Euro away games, they were all there. There are a lot of the hard core from the 60s and 70s in the North and South stands. In their hearts they are still young, its the body that's the problem. I am not so sure there is this enormous amount of exec's that are largely out of town people that have no real attachment to the club. I am sure a few, but not the number people think. I don't think the youth of today have the appetite to spend the money required to travel with your club. It certainly wasn't easy in the 70s with all the union issues.
Anyway, I was at the infamous Norwich game in 77 that people talk about. Maybe my memory, but it really was a good day out, but I think the hooligan thing is widely exaggerated, if people are talking about fighting Norwich fans. It was more a case of United fans just trashing the ground, not saying that is a good thing. When the following today sing "We are United, we'll do as we want", that pretty much summed up the Norwich away day. The police were not prepared for the number of United fans, But this was not uncommon for most away grounds. When the police tried gaining some resemblance of control, with barriers ...etc,a large group of United fans started taking the p*ss, making false charges towards them and so on, the more they did it the more other fans got involved and then the bottle throwing occurred from people at the back, the setting of certain things on fire. Didn't really know anybody was on the roof until I heard it on the news. United then got a bad name for trashing places.
Remember the old classic photos thread that was floating around here around 2009? can we still get access to that or is it gone forever? some great snaps in that
Really satisfied how this thread is going.
Spot on post Salford.
Lots of recollections from the 60s as my first game with my grandad was in 1963. He was rigger foreman on the Manchester Ship Canal and we would visit a ship before the game. Most captains knew him and they had drinks while I was taken around the ships. Walking to the ground after was a great moment of gathering, everyone greeting and talking. When I go to OT I still get that tingle down the spine. The kids area was great and always some player like Lawman or Bestie would say hello. Although in one game it was windy and we got coated in Denis spit!
The 70s were a blast - like a right of passage. I recall we charged into the Norwich end but in huge overwhelming numbers that the police couldn't contain. The lads on the roof were not alone in trashing the stand, another group was pulling the corrugated sheets from the walls. Initially I thought we were being rained on by stuff but it was the roof breaking and then a lad fell through but seemed ok. The tussles with the police got steadily worse as the game started but slowed down while watching the game. Then a rumour went around that the police were coming in reinforcements and the charges started again. Coming out from where we were there seemed to be a sea of blue, then bricks started flying, and a great roar as the fans moved forward. It all went mad and as I wrote to Moriarity we got pushed onto a train and was greeted by Tommy Doc. Years later there was a TV documentary about hooligans with films from the match showing 2-3 lads on the roof.
The game at Chelsea kicked off for us at 10.00am waiting for the Manchester trains at Euston. We got chased around a bit then the first train arrived and everything changed. Arrived at Fulham Broadway tube and it got really wild. We got into the Shed but after a few scuffles were escorted back to the rest - I recall thinking the pitch was heavy, possibly to slow us down. It kicked off a few more times and went crazy around the tube station. However, people forget there was a charity game against Chelsea a week or so later and this time we ran out of luck as we got well battered in Fulham Broadway tube station. The second division days were also wild, the first game at Cardiff was utter madness that made the headlines. The 4-0 at home to Millwall was actually very quiet given their reputation. Not the same in the return in London, we got well thrashed, and running down the Old Kent Road.
Before 1978 I missed a handful of games but later it was more difficult with being at University and playing footy for them. I would thumb a lift down to Manchester if the game was off and stay over at my grandma's. Went to London after Uni. and found I could play for a side in the old Spartan league so for five seasons I had to largely rely on TV because of training and playing schedule. In 1987 I finally got two season tickets for the Stretty and have remained there ever since. OT have tried to promote me but I have become more and more sentimental as the senility has set in. The London (Cockney) Reds manage both STs, before that the Oxford and Banbury Reds; have also travelled with the Worcester, Epsom and Hastings Reds in the past. My seats are not far from when I first took a girlfriend to a game in 1977 against Sunderland - Joe Jordan hammered in a screaming header.
Glad to hear what you say about the prawn butty brigade. During the late 80s and 90s I had a job in Lloyds of London insuring sports people. I ended up going to all kinds of sport related events where the prawn butties were piled high - like Wimbledon. At David O'Leary's testimonial I finally met Robbo, who was a hero of mine but what a boring bugger - very shy off the field. Sat at Ken Bates table for lunch before the Chelsea game when Cantona struck the bar from nearby the half way. Went to the World Cup in Italy as a guest of the Italian FA and was probably one of the few Englanders able to drink booze during a game. A friend of mine has a box at Highbury so I would go to the United games; he liked to boast that he'd captured a hooligan. He got tickets for the Charity Shield when Keano first appeared. I was nearly banned when Sharpie hammered them almost single handed in a cup game!! Afterwards I was coming down the executive steps at Highbury with my friends and could see the reds going out en masse. A load of them jeered and called me a 'Cockney cnut' and I have never lived it down since. Thanks for that lads. Finally gave up business in 1994 for my second love, after the reds that is - history.
Went to most games in the 1990s although missed the CL99, even after getting tickets, because I was a guest scholar in the USA and couldn't break it. From a distance I saw a few incidents but only one bit of mad stuff from Scousers during the Hillsborough year. Read about the "Men in Black" but thought it was all a bit surreal. My experience of games in the EPL is now the rarity of violence and was surprised about the recent Chelski incident. Went to quite a lot of games until 2008 when I became a professor and a dean so it was difficult to find time in heavy schedule. I was in the North Stand for the recent Galatasary game (2012) and met a load of golden oldies and we had a great chat. There was clearly some trace of past laddishness. Last couple of years I go when I can because of working in Germany as a historian and writer, which makes getting to games difficult. Have attended a lot of games in Germany; standing and having a beer, it's a great reminder of the 70s.
I know what you mean by the Zimmerframes, although until a few years ago I was still reasonably fit, lucky I guess. In this last summer, during the World Cup, I was diagnosed with kidney cancer, had it removed at Xmas, and so it's been watching games not far from the bed. Hence why I joined this forum and had some fun especially in the Scouses corner. They trolled me the other day, a bit like being ravaged by dead sheep. My plan is to retire, move back to Manchester, and just go to home games; been saying it for years but it never happens.
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Really enjoying hearing these stories from back in the 70's and 80's.
Part of me would have loved to be a young'un back then, the whole match day experience sounds a lot more fun.
Part of me would have loved to be a young'un back then, the whole match day experience sounds a lot more fun.
Captain Marvel vs Super Super Alan
Trouble at White Hart Lane...
...and Upton Park
West Ham away was always a bit rough.
And a video of the infamous "Nationwide" match at Carrow Road in 1977.
Fantastic.
7-1.
Running to kiss Scholes
Some great CL nights
Gary is a Red.
funny pic.
Trouble at White Hart Lane...
...and Upton Park
West Ham away was always a bit rough.
And a video of the infamous "Nationwide" match at Carrow Road in 1977.
Trivial comment. I think you will find the video is miscaptioned as 1977. The fashions are 1973-74, the Oxford bags had pretty much gone by late 1976. I remember this because that season my girlfriend in Worcester insisted I went to games in tight Levi's with a small flair and a leather jacket so we could go out after I got back from games. Also possible I saw myself in the video and a mate of mine in the Spurs picture - do you know the date?
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strictly speaking im in this picture.
Scholes goal vs Inter 1999
Team in Turin before SF vs Juventus 1999
Oh what a night.
Team in Turin before SF vs Juventus 1999
Oh what a night.
Nice one but I do recall being near the door/wall at Carrow road when the lads broke through. As the video shows the day was crazy, not one easily forgotten.
Utmost respect to the lads that managed to pull that off!! Still can't believe they got away with it.
Is that your mate just to the left of the old bill looking up to no good?
Pretty sure it was 77. We lost that game 1-2 and it turned nasty at the end. Oxfords may have been on the wane but they were still evident. Look at the footage from St. Etienne from 77 and you can see loads of fans wearing that clobber. I was living in London then and had long since ditched Oxford bags but they were still around. When the Jocks came down to Wembley that year, they were all wearing out-of-date gear.
I have no idea what the date of the picture is from Tottenham but if I had to guess, I'd say 1975-76 season. Same with the photo from Upton Park. If I remember correctly, there was a pretty brutal battle at West Ham that year that spilled onto the pitch.