Aurelien Tchouameni / Signs for Madrid

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The below (Guardian article) is exactly as I have seen him as a midfielder. He can be utilised as both a holding midfielder and a box to box midfielder. So if he's playing alongside Fofana as the LCM in a two, and the opposition is transitioning from his side, he'll engage while Fofana sits and vice versa.

The Guardian: "Tchouaméni is not easily pigeonholed into one specific role. He is comfortable in a midfield two or three, and he can play as a holding midfielder or a box-to-box player. This versatility affords Kovac and Deschamps greater tactical flexibility, depending on the opposition or how the game is panning out. For example, Tchouaméni made his full France debut as the deepest midfielder in a 4-3-3 against Ukraine, yet put in another solid showing alongside Pogba in a 3-4-1-2 against Spain on Sunday."

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...relien-tchouameni-exciting-rise-monaco-france

If you play him alongside Fred or McTominay, then he should be utilised as a box to box midfielder due to him being a more rounded midfielder in comparison. But if you play Tchouaméni next to a Jimmy Garner or Hannibal Mejbri, then he's a DM. And it's the reason why I hope we sign him, because he has the potential to be a complete midfielder of that particular skillset.
 
SparkedIntoLife said:
Do you think Boubacar Kamara would be a good foil to Tchouameni to allow him to go forward?
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He fits the profile but I'm not sold on him yet, I need to see where he goes and how he does there, but I have a feeling he won't do the right choice considering he apparently wants to cash in (which is why clubs like Roma who were interested in January backed away)
 
huyn said:
He fits the profile but I'm not sold on him yet, I need to see where he goes and how he does there, but I have a feeling he won't do the right choice considering he apparently wants to cash in (which is why clubs like Roma who were interested in January backed away)
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Thanks, appreciate your view. I'm getting the same sense. Not hearing as positive of feedback about him as I am of others (Tchouameni for sure, Charles De Ketelaere in Belgium etc.). If you have the time/interest, it'd be great to hear if you can recommend any under the radar exciting players in France - https://www.redcafe.net/threads/the-hidden-gems-thread.469152/
 
We could splice the semen of Pele, Maradona, Messi, and Beckenbaur, and raise him in a chamber where all he saw was endless football clips and had non-stop training for 20 years, and he’d still be crap under the current regime. I have no hope for quality of any signing. May as well just pay fifty quid for some bloke down the pub.
 
Adnan said:
The below (Guardian article) is exactly as I have seen him as a midfielder. He can be utilised as both a holding midfielder and a box to box midfielder. So if he's playing alongside Fofana as the LCM in a two, and the opposition is transitioning from his side, he'll engage while Fofana sits and vice versa.

The Guardian: "Tchouaméni is not easily pigeonholed into one specific role. He is comfortable in a midfield two or three, and he can play as a holding midfielder or a box-to-box player. This versatility affords Kovac and Deschamps greater tactical flexibility, depending on the opposition or how the game is panning out. For example, Tchouaméni made his full France debut as the deepest midfielder in a 4-3-3 against Ukraine, yet put in another solid showing alongside Pogba in a 3-4-1-2 against Spain on Sunday."

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...relien-tchouameni-exciting-rise-monaco-france

If you play him alongside Fred or McTominay, then he should be utilised as a box to box midfielder due to him being a more rounded midfielder in comparison. But if you play Tchouaméni next to a Jimmy Garner or Hannibal Mejbri, then he's a DM. And it's the reason why I hope we sign him, because he has the potential to be a complete midfielder of that particular skillset.
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It’s a really good article to be fair and sums him up well as a player. He’s got everything needed to be a top player in any league. I think he’d be outstanding at somewhere like Liverpool for example I just think United would ruin him.

We need a player like him but we haven’t got the best track record of developing talents into world class players recently.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
It’s a really good article to be fair and sums him up well as a player. He’s got everything needed to be a top player in any league. I think he’d be outstanding at somewhere like Liverpool for example I just think United would ruin him.

We need a player like him but we haven’t got the best track record of developing talents into world class players recently.
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He would be the absolute correct profile of player for any coach, but particularly for that coach who sets out to play the game in the opponent's half with a high defensive line.

But like David Ornstein said, the competition for his signature will be intense.
 
Modric and Kroos should still have another year in them. We need to get this guy. Him, Camavinga and Valverde, 2 of them either side of one of Modric/Kroos is the way to go

Sell Case. Sigh :( (or not? Could we maybe convert him into a box to box? He can score at least)
 
giorno said:
Modric and Kroos should still have another year in them. We need to get this guy. Him, Camavinga and Valverde, 2 of them either side of one of Modric/Kroos is the way to go

Sell Case. Sigh :( (or not? Could we maybe convert him into a box to box? He can score at least)
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And can't Camavinga be able to develop that defensive midfield role with creativity? Something like Redondo? It would be necessary to look for a substitute for Modric.
Tchouameni, Valverde and Camavinga, for example, sounds very much in keeping with modern football, very energetic but also lacking in creativity.

Casemiro has had too many successes at the club to suddenly be a regular substitute. Perhaps he should be sold but I don't think it will be easy or that the club is willing with the price they have put on Tchouameni
 
Maybe Camavinga can develop into Modric's successor, maybe not. I'm not thinking beyond next season atm :D
 
Monaco lost 2-0 to Braga yesterday, a team I don't know much about, how good they are etc.

How was Tchouameni vs Braga yesterday?
 
Adnan said:
If you play him alongside Fred or McTominay, then…
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You’re completely wasting your time, effort and money.

(Ps I appreciate I’ve taken just a few chosen words from your post to make a point :-) )
 
Speako said:
You’re completely wasting your time, effort and money.

(Ps I appreciate I’ve taken just a few chosen words from your post to make a point :-) )
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I agree the McFred partnership will have to be broken or else there will be another manager who loses his job.
 
giorno said:
Modric and Kroos should still have another year in them. We need to get this guy. Him, Camavinga and Valverde, 2 of them either side of one of Modric/Kroos is the way to go

Sell Case. Sigh :( (or not? Could we maybe convert him into a box to box? He can score at least)
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If Madrid get Tchouameni, Haaland and Mbappe and keeps Mendy, many games will be won by physical abrasion alone.

I mean, just try to imagine a rival trying to attack and face guys like Tchouameni, Valverde, Camavinga, Mendy and Militao in defense and suffering counters launched for Haaland, Mbappe, Vinicius and the likes.

With that kind of protection I can see Modrid playing until he is 40 years old.
 
Real Madrid with their understandable pull. To be fair to any top young player out there, most of your memories of Man Utd would be of us being a pretty bang average team who have gone 14 years without a CL win. Never mind at least three domestic clubs being a lot better than us. Where is the pull exactly…big wages?

Really is a sorry state of affairs at this club and Pogba, love or hate him, leaving on a free and Ronaldo likely to not want to play Europa league - that would be our two most high profile players wanting to quit. Hardly a great endorsement.
 
Was costing 82 million on some previous reports.

Monaco did sell Mbappe for expensive levels so I'm not sure they will ditch Tchouameni on the cheap.
 
Bebestation said:
Was costing 82 million on some previous reports.

Monaco did sell Mbappe for expensive levels so I'm not sure they will ditch Tchouameni on the cheap.
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You can count on Monaco to make ridiculous money

and never putting it back into the team.
 
bond19821982 said:
Valverde, Camavinga and Tchouameni. That's a dream combo.
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Lacks some finesse and the final pass. If Madrid had kept Odegaard, then it'd be absolutely scary.

That said, there will be no one outrunning you with that midfield and Militao, Alaba and Mendy at the back
 
RoyH1 said:
Lacks some finesse and the final pass. If Madrid had kept Odegaard, then it'd be absolutely scary.

That said, there will be no one outrunning you with that midfield and Militao, Alaba and Mendy at the back
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Ødegaard doesn't have what it takes to succeed at Real Madrid, it's not like he is tearing it up for Arsenal every other game. He has found his feet at a club challenging for top 6 in England and where the pressure is small. No way good enough for Real Madrid.
Madrid and Arsenal's ambitions are lightyears apart.
 
Disappointing Madrid always get the best midfielders, was holding out a little hope that we would still be in for him.
 
Adnan said:
Diaz is contradicting the report from Alvarez.
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True. I was about to say that. It means one of them has absolutely no idea about what is going on.

Diaz is considered reliable for Madrid, so I'm going to go with him.
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Alvarez de Mon is the most reliable out of the two, though. He's not that well known out of Spain because he's relatively new but he got a quite considerable amount of stuff right lately, hence the spectacular increase of followers in such a short period of time.
 
GatoLoco said:
True. I was about to say that. It means one of them has absolutely no idea about what is going on.



Alvarez de Mon is the most reliable out of the two, though. He's not that well known out of Spain because he's relatively new but he got a quite considerable amount of stuff right lately, hence the spectacular increase of followers in such a short period of time.
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Interesting, thanks for sharing.

So your transfer targets are Mbappe, Haaland and Tchouameni?
 
Adnan said:
Interesting, thanks for sharing.

So your transfer targets are Mbappe, Haaland and Tchouameni?
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I think so. I would say that one of them is already signed (Mbappe) and that one out of the remaining two is quite likely to happen.
 
I have a bit of a hard time believing Liverpool’s interest in Tchouameni. They have Fabinho, Thiago, Henderson, and Jones contracted long term, Keita and Ox for another year, Klopp has said he wants Milner to sign for another year, and Elliott is also in the mix for a few minutes. That is a lot of midfielders.
 
Powderfinger said:
I have a bit of a hard time believing Liverpool’s interest in Tchouameni. They have Fabinho, Thiago, Henderson, and Jones contracted long term, Keita and Ox for another year, Klopp has said he wants Milner to sign for another year, and Elliott is also in the mix for a few minutes. That is a lot of midfielders.
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A good number of those players are in the prime of their careers. Liverpool seem to be looking at younger players to build their midfield. It explains their strong interest in Bellingham
 
James Peril said:
Ødegaard doesn't have what it takes to succeed at Real Madrid, it's not like he is tearing it up for Arsenal every other game. He has found his feet at a club challenging for top 6 in England and where the pressure is small. No way good enough for Real Madrid.
Madrid and Arsenal's ambitions are lightyears apart.
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Yea he had his chances to break into their team and they weren't convinced even after loans elsewhere in La Liga.

He's found a good place at Arsenal but that doesn't mean he'd be bossing it at Madrid right now
 
Really is laughable seeing how quickly the other big clubs in the world rebuild their teams - Barca are arguably already better than us and Madrid already are yet are adding the best young midfielder itw to their team.
 
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