Would love to see us sign someone like Maddison,however he definitely wouldn't accept being just a deputy and rightly so
Assessing this Utd squad before the summer - Who needs to go - who can stay...
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Would love to see us sign someone like Maddison,however he definitely wouldn't accept being just a deputy and rightly so
We need to raise as much money as possible so I thought the best way to do that was sell the players that we paid the most for and just get into the minds of the others and make them believe they are better than what they are and see where we go from there.
| No. | Pos. | Player | Contract Ends | Verdict |
| 1 | GK | David de Gea | June 2023 | Keep if he wants a normal salary, otherwise sorry but release |
| 2 | DF | Victor Lindelöf | June 2024 | Keep as back-up |
| 4 | DF | Phil Jones | June 2023? | NEW CONTRACT ASAP, can't risk losing him |
| 5 | DF | Harry Maguire | June 2025 | Sell |
| 6 | DF | Lisandro Martínez | June 2027 | Keep - starter |
| 8 | MF | Bruno Fernandes | June 2026 | Keep - starter |
| 9 | FW | Anthony Martial | June 2024? | Can't sell because he plays no football, so keep as back-up |
| 10 | FW | Marcus Rashford | June 2024 | Keep - star player |
| 11 | FW | Mason Greenwood | June 2025 | Keep, give another chance |
| 12 | DF | Tyrell Malacia | June 2026 | Keep - backup |
| 14 | MF | Christian Eriksen | June 2025 | Keep |
| 17 | MF | Fred | June 2024 | Keep as back-up |
| 18 | MF | Casemiro | June 2026 | Keep - star player |
| 19 | DF | Raphaël Varane | June 2025 | Keep - first 11 |
| 20 | DF | Diogo Dalot | June 2024 | Keep |
| 21 | MF | Antony | June 2027 | Keep - back-up |
| 22 | GK | Tom Heaton | June 2023 | Irrelevant |
| 23 | DF | Luke Shaw | June 2027 | Keep - fist 11 |
| 25 | FW | Jadon Sancho | June 2026 | Keep, what else can we do at this point |
| 28 | FW | Facundo Pellistri | June 2025 | Loan |
| 29 | DF | Aaron Wan-Bissaka | June 2024 | Keep |
| 33 | DF | Brandon Williams | June 2024 | Loan |
| 34 | MF | Donny van de Beek | June 2025 | Sell |
| 36 | FW | Anthony Elanga | June 2026 | Sell |
| 39 | MF | Scott McTominay | June 2025 | Sell |
| 43 | DF | Teden Mengi | June 2024 | Loan |
| 49 | FW | Alejandro Garnacho | June 2024? | Keep |
| 55 | MF | Zidane Iqbal | June 2025 | Loan |
| 73 | MF | Kobbie Mainoo | June 2027 | Loan |
| Out on Loan | ||||
| 3 | DF | Eric Bailly | June 2024 | Sell |
| 16 | FW | Amad Diallo | June 2025 | Loan |
| 26 | GK | Dean Henderson | June 2025 | Keep |
| 38 | DF | Axel Tuanzebe | June 2023 | Release |
| 46 | MF | Hannibal Mejbri | June 2026 | Loan out |
| 47 | FW | Shola Shoretire | Signed new deal? | Loan out |
| 74 | DF | Álvaro Fernández | June 2024 | Loan out |
| DF | Alex Telles | June 2024 | Sell | |
| DF | Ethan Laird | Juen 2023? | Sell | |
| In on Loan | ||||
| 15 | MF | Marcel Sabitzer | June 2023 | Buy if he is cheap and use as back-up |
| 27 | FW | Wout Weghorst | June 2023 | Return to sender |
| 31 | GK | Jack Butland | June 2023 | Return to sender |
Trying to sell 12 players. Even if you are willing to offload them at 1m each, you will still have trouble finding suiting club willing to match their wage expectation.
That's why you do what Arsenal have done, just pay them some money to piss off out of the club.
Go discuss on Reddit if you want to talk about that person
The stance hasn’t changed. Until United conclude their investigation it’s off limits. Anyone that wants to talk about him can do so in private or another forum that does allow it. This forum has had enough legal letters
| No. | Pos. | Player | Contract Ends | Verdict |
| 1 | GK | David de Gea | June 2023 | Get rid |
| 2 | DF | Victor Lindelöf | June 2024 | Get rid |
| 4 | DF | Phil Jones | June 2023? | Get rid |
| 5 | DF | Harry Maguire | June 2025 | Get rid |
| 6 | DF | Lisandro Martínez | June 2027 | Keep |
| 8 | MF | Bruno Fernandes | June 2026 | Keep |
| 9 | FW | Anthony Martial | June 2024? | Keep |
| 10 | FW | Marcus Rashford | June 2024 | Keep |
| 11 | FW | Mason Greenwood | June 2025 | Get rid |
| 12 | DF | Tyrell Malacia | June 2026 | Keep |
| 14 | MF | Christian Eriksen | June 2025 | Keep |
| 17 | MF | Fred | June 2024 | Keep |
| 18 | MF | Casemiro | June 2026 | Keep |
| 19 | DF | Raphaël Varane | June 2025 | Keep |
| 20 | DF | Diogo Dalot | June 2024 | Get rid |
| 21 | MF | Antony | June 2027 | Keep |
| 22 | GK | Tom Heaton | June 2023 | Get rid |
| 23 | DF | Luke Shaw | June 2027 | Keep |
| 25 | FW | Jadon Sancho | June 2026 | Get rid |
| 28 | FW | Facundo Pellistri | June 2025 | Get rid |
| 29 | DF | Aaron Wan-Bissaka | June 2024 | Keep |
| 33 | DF | Brandon Williams | June 2024 | Get rid |
| 34 | MF | Donny van de Beek | June 2025 | Get rid |
| 36 | FW | Anthony Elanga | June 2026 | Get rid |
| 39 | MF | Scott McTominay | June 2025 | Get rid |
| 43 | DF | Teden Mengi | June 2024 | Get rid |
| 49 | FW | Alejandro Garnacho | June 2024 | Keep |
| 55 | MF | Zidane Iqbal | June 2025 | Loan out |
| 73 | MF | Kobbie Mainoo | June 2027 | Loan out |
| Out on Loan | ||||
| 3 | DF | Eric Bailly | June 2024 | Get rid |
| 16 | FW | Amad Diallo | June 2025 | Keep |
| 26 | GK | Dean Henderson | June 2025 | Get rid |
| 38 | DF | Axel Tuanzebe | June 2023 | Get rid |
| 46 | MF | Hannibal Mejbri | June 2026 | Get rid |
| 47 | FW | Shola Shoretire | Signed new deal? | Get rid |
| 74 | DF | Álvaro Fernández | June 2024 | Get rid |
| DF | Alex Telles | June 2024 | Get rid | |
| DF | Ethan Laird | Juen 2023? | Get rid | |
| In on Loan | ||||
| 15 | MF | Marcel Sabitzer | June 2023 | Get rid |
| 27 | FW | Wout Weghorst | June 2023 | Get rid |
| 31 | GK | Jack Butland | June 2023 | Get rid |
Agree with everything except Sancho and Pellistri.
Id sell both if decent offers came in.
Some of you are actually mad. Selling 25 players... 
Maguire
Lindelof
McTominay
Awb
Martial
Vdb - almost forgot he existed
Telles
Baily
Release Jones
Lindelof
McTominay
Awb
Martial
Vdb - almost forgot he existed
Telles
Baily
Release Jones
I like this format. Although i would, depending on incoming transfers, be open to keeping Sabitzer and/or Hannibal for the squad.
It's a lot harder to sell players than it is to buy them. Worth keeping in mind here....
We should 100% keep DDG for one more season. Getting someone anywhere near worthwhile would put a massive dent in our budget which should be spent on actual holes in our squad - midfield and striker.
It is not like we can sell half our squad and buy 10 new ones of high enough quality or potential.
However makes sense to get room for Amad and Hannibal as backup to the main starting eleven. No reason to keep playing VDB and McT. They have tried, but are clearly not good enough. With proper time, maybe the next ones are.
It is not like we can sell half our squad and buy 10 new ones of high enough quality or potential.
However makes sense to get room for Amad and Hannibal as backup to the main starting eleven. No reason to keep playing VDB and McT. They have tried, but are clearly not good enough. With proper time, maybe the next ones are.
| No. | Pos. | Player | Contract Ends | Verdict |
1 | GK | David de Gea | June 2023 | 50/50 for me. Rarely holds onto the ball, always punches, which can lead to second chances for opponents. Finding a keeper that actually will suit us is always a nightmare that can take 2-3 keepers to get it right. Do we risk it? |
2 | DF | Victor Lindelöf | June 2024 | Keep as backup. We can't afford to let Bailly and Maguire both leave and not retain at least one player who performs solidly as a backup. Not sure we'll get a world class CB right now as our starting duo seems set. |
4 | DF | Phil Jones | June 2023? | Release |
5 | DF | Harry Maguire | June 2025 | Sell |
6 | DF | Lisandro Martínez | June 2027 | Keep |
8 | MF | Bruno Fernandes | June 2026 | Keep |
9 | FW | Anthony Martial | June 2024? | 50/50. Unless we're bringing in at least two world class strikers, I'd like to retain him as a backup so Rashford can remain on the left. |
10 | FW | Marcus Rashford | June 2024 | Keep |
11 | FW | Mason Greenwood | June 2025 | Will avoid commenting due to board policy. |
12 | DF | Tyrell Malacia | June 2026 | Keep |
14 | MF | Christian Eriksen | June 2025 | Keep |
17 | MF | Fred | June 2024 | Keep |
18 | MF | Casemiro | June 2026 | Keep |
19 | DF | Raphaël Varane | June 2025 | Keep |
20 | DF | Diogo Dalot | June 2024 | 50/50 - Retain one or both of Wan Bissaka and Dalot and sell the other - unless we're buying two right-backs. |
21 | MF | Antony | June 2027 | Keep |
22 | GK | Tom Heaton | June 2023 | Keep as 3rd Choice |
23 | DF | Luke Shaw | June 2027 | Keep |
25 | FW | Jadon Sancho | June 2026 | Keep |
28 | FW | Facundo Pellistri | June 2025 | Keep |
29 | DF | Aaron Wan-Bissaka | June 2024 | 50/50 - Retain one or both of Wan Bissaka and Dalot and sell the other - unless we're buying two right-backs. |
33 | DF | Brandon Williams | June 2024 | Sell - I hope he does well somewhere, I really liked the guy at LB. |
34 | MF | Donny van de Beek | June 2025 | Sell |
36 | FW | Anthony Elanga | June 2026 | 50/50. Has loads of time left on the contract so not really wanting to rush a sale. I reckon we're better off loaning him out or retaining as an emergency backup option. |
39 | MF | Scott McTominay | June 2025 | Keep - Yeah, I'll be that guy. If he's willing to remain a backup player, I'm fine with us retaining him. Eriksen is a potential sicknote while Casemiro is a potential red card. McTominay is a solid backup option for either. I don't trust our current midfield to remain available based on this season, we need to bulk up rather than simply sell and replace at a 1:1 ratio. If McT wants to leave for better starting chances, then yeah, sell. |
43 | DF | Teden Mengi | June 2024 | Don't know him well enough to comment. |
49 | FW | Alejandro Garnacho | June 2024? | Keep |
55 | MF | Zidane Iqbal | June 2025 | Keep |
73 | MF | Kobbie Mainoo | June 2027 | Keep, he has loads of time on the contract. |
| Out on Loan | ||||
3 | DF | Eric Bailly | June 2024 | Sell |
16 | FW | Amad Diallo | June 2025 | Keep - he's young and has shown signs. See if he improves or not. |
26 | GK | Dean Henderson | June 2025 | Sell |
38 | DF | Axel Tuanzebe | June 2023 | Release, sadly, as I had high hopes at one point. |
46 | MF | Hannibal Mejbri | June 2026 | Keep, he's got loads of time on contract anyway and has promise. |
47 | FW | Shola Shoretire | Signed new deal? | Don't know him well enough to comment. |
74 | DF | Álvaro Fernández | June 2024 | Don't know him well enough to comment. |
| DF | Alex Telles | June 2024 | Sell or release, whatever is cheaper | |
| DF | Ethan Laird | Juen 2023? | Don't know him well enough to comment. | |
| In on Loan | ||||
15 | MF | Marcel Sabitzer | June 2023 | Not sure if we have an option but I'd consider it depending on what it is, should McTominay want to leave. I don't trust our current midfield to remain available based on this season, we need to bulk up rather than simply sell and replace at a 1:1 ratio. |
27 | FW | Wout Weghorst | June 2023 | Return to sender |
31 | GK | Jack Butland | June 2023 | Return to sender |
Sancho I would sell, but agree with everything else. Trouble is thats too many to release in one go so expect between half a dozen to 10 to leave. Some out of that total will be natural wastage end of contract like tuanzebe, jones etc
We need at least 5 out and 5 in:
Out:
AWB
Maguire
Lindelof
Martial
McTominay
In:
Kane or Osimhen
Sabitzer (permanent deal)
Kim Man-Jae
Palhinha
Frimpong
Send Elanga and VDB out on loan. Perhaps a loan spell back at Ajax might assist in a boost of confidence for VDB.
There is of a course a wild card depending on the club’s decision, which might dictate how we approach the summer.
Out:
AWB
Maguire
Lindelof
Martial
McTominay
In:
Kane or Osimhen
Sabitzer (permanent deal)
Kim Man-Jae
Palhinha
Frimpong
Send Elanga and VDB out on loan. Perhaps a loan spell back at Ajax might assist in a boost of confidence for VDB.
There is of a course a wild card depending on the club’s decision, which might dictate how we approach the summer.
Mostly agree with you on decisions and 100% agree with you regarding positions.
I would only sell one of Dalot and AWB and keep the other as backup/competition. I will only sell one of Maguire and Lindelöf and keep the other as backup because realistically there is no chance we’d sign two center backs
I would keep Fred as a backup and use him in games where his strengths would be useful. Also we need 5 DM/CMs and we are not gonna buy that many in one window with so many other areas missing good players/backups
I would keep Greenwood. Remember that he is still a kid and because he has done something very stupid we cannot ignore the fact that he is young and should be educated, and we cannot delete people doing stupid stuff from the earth if they are willing to learn from their mistakes
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I don't want to discuss that person and I'm not talking about that person. I want to discuss why we can't discuss that person, which is a different matter altogether. Is that also off limits? If so then I will stop. But it seems clear you are being bullied by lawyers. In the grown up journalism world I work in we call this a SLAPP action (Strategic Litigation Against Public Participation), an abuse of the legal process designed to intimidate and close down legitimate scrutiny. The best response is transparency unless you are under a super-injuntion, which seems unlikely.
Happy to discuss this privately if you want.
Can I play?
Out:
VDB
Telles
Henderson
Maguire
Bailly
Lindelof
Mctominay
Martial
Weghorst
Sabitzer
Greenwood
Wan Bissaka
In:
Kane
Tielemans
Macallister
Timber
Ferguson
Pavard
Raya
Out:
VDB
Telles
Henderson
Maguire
Bailly
Lindelof
Mctominay
Martial
Weghorst
Sabitzer
Greenwood
Wan Bissaka
In:
Kane
Tielemans
Macallister
Timber
Ferguson
Pavard
Raya
Who do you think we can get decent money for
Gotta say I like that window,maybe switching Palhinha/Lavia if Southampton go down as will be easier to obtain
I’d like to see Utd get rid of or upgrade De Gea at this point and being in a keeper better suited to the modern game.
If DDG is happy switching to back up at this point in his career and playing cup games (which I actually feel he might) then great, if not you should let him go.
If DDG is happy switching to back up at this point in his career and playing cup games (which I actually feel he might) then great, if not you should let him go.
Doesn’t a hell of a lot depend on if we are sold and who to?
Why is every one saying we have to buy/sign an apprentice for DDG and Casemiro. These two guys should be in football till the age of 33.
Defensive midfielders and goalkeeper peak much later than every position on the pitch. Majority peak at 28-29 onwards and pointedly occupied by the most experienced guys on the pitch. Due the greater understanding of the game they develop with age and game experience. I’m not a fan of this concept.
Bring in competition but not understudy and maintain the quality of the team.
Defensive midfielders and goalkeeper peak much later than every position on the pitch. Majority peak at 28-29 onwards and pointedly occupied by the most experienced guys on the pitch. Due the greater understanding of the game they develop with age and game experience. I’m not a fan of this concept.
Bring in competition but not understudy and maintain the quality of the team.
I’m just following orders. If you have experience and want to help then please feel free to pm the owner Niall
I’d go
Maignan (for me possibly the best around right now)
Frimpong
Kim Man-Jae
DeJong (there i said it)
Striker (can’t make up my mind but huge fan of young Ferguson)
Maignan (for me possibly the best around right now)
Frimpong
Kim Man-Jae
DeJong (there i said it)
Striker (can’t make up my mind but huge fan of young Ferguson)
well said, young man
Make Kane the striker and that's unbelievable window,however that's not being remotely realistic
Yeah get sold to Jassim and opens up a real possibility we can get maybe 5/6 in the summer which are GK,CB,RB,DM (backup)CM,ST,
If we just focused on our 8 homegrown slots for a moment:
Shaw - Heaton - Rashford - Sancho - Maguire - AWB - McTominay - (MG) - Williams - Elanga
I think only Shaw is definite. Heaton has +1 and is just backup, so he'll probably get renewed. Rashford we obviously need to sort his contract, but I'd weigh the pros/cons of selling him if we can't. The rest have questionable playtime and it's both a question of us wanting to move them on / replace them and themselves wanting to play more. I can see some of them choosing to sit on their contract / being content as backup as well.
So beyond 2 of these players leaving we have to actually target homegrown players for replacement (or vacate the slot).
Shaw - Heaton - Rashford - Sancho - Maguire - AWB - McTominay - (MG) - Williams - Elanga
I think only Shaw is definite. Heaton has +1 and is just backup, so he'll probably get renewed. Rashford we obviously need to sort his contract, but I'd weigh the pros/cons of selling him if we can't. The rest have questionable playtime and it's both a question of us wanting to move them on / replace them and themselves wanting to play more. I can see some of them choosing to sit on their contract / being content as backup as well.
So beyond 2 of these players leaving we have to actually target homegrown players for replacement (or vacate the slot).
I think the biggest factor will be champions league qualification. Even new rich owners may be limited by FFP.
Oh yeah we need to qualify without doubt
Sell for minimal fee (even if it ends up being £500K): Laird, Brandon Williams, Tuanzebe (possibly release), Bailly, Telles, Mengi
Release/return to sender: De Gea, Heaton, Butland, Jones, Weghorst, Sabitzer
Sell for £10m to £15m if we get appropriate offer (otherwise keep/loan): Lindelof, Elanga, Van de Beek
Sell for £20m+ (honestly don't know what I'd do if we only got very low bids): Henderson, Maguire, Sancho
Release/return to sender: De Gea, Heaton, Butland, Jones, Weghorst, Sabitzer
Sell for £10m to £15m if we get appropriate offer (otherwise keep/loan): Lindelof, Elanga, Van de Beek
Sell for £20m+ (honestly don't know what I'd do if we only got very low bids): Henderson, Maguire, Sancho
Good post.
I hadn't given it much thought. I'd keep Shaw, Rashford, Wan-Bissaka and McTominay. Beyond that, Sancho seems a poor fit for United/PL but if we didn't get a decent offer then perhaps he could be additional cover for another season. Not enthusiastic about Heaton but could keep him if necessary.
With Garnacho being so young, we may not need all 8 homegrown slots.
Does nobody know what the word literally means anymore
Personal opinion - the first 4 + AWB will stay this summer. The others might go
Keep Fred, Martial and Dave.
Would let Henderson go. And Jones, Telles, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Williams. None of them play for us any more anyway.
A couple of defenders out of Maguire, Lindelof, Dalot and Bissaka may leave. The manager seems to be a big fan of Timber and might go back in for him. Good all round footballer, can cover 2 or 3 positions well and would get plenty of games to develop.
Don't think Beek and McT will stay on. Sabitzer is a maybe depending on how he does for the rest of this season. Hannibal and Mainoo can play a part next season.
The forwards can mostly stay except Wout. Remains to be seen what the club does with our #11. Expect Amad to be back. Pellistri needs more game time or go out on loan or leave. Give Sancho another season though I expect Garnacho to overtake him by then.
We need 2 players who will push Eriksen and Martial to the bench.
Would let Henderson go. And Jones, Telles, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Williams. None of them play for us any more anyway.
A couple of defenders out of Maguire, Lindelof, Dalot and Bissaka may leave. The manager seems to be a big fan of Timber and might go back in for him. Good all round footballer, can cover 2 or 3 positions well and would get plenty of games to develop.
Don't think Beek and McT will stay on. Sabitzer is a maybe depending on how he does for the rest of this season. Hannibal and Mainoo can play a part next season.
The forwards can mostly stay except Wout. Remains to be seen what the club does with our #11. Expect Amad to be back. Pellistri needs more game time or go out on loan or leave. Give Sancho another season though I expect Garnacho to overtake him by then.
We need 2 players who will push Eriksen and Martial to the bench.
I‘m a very loyal person. However at United we should constantly try to improve. Instead of asking who should go, ask who can we get that improves us?
A good backup to Casemiro: Lavia. Sell McT.
Backup to Bruno: Maddison or Wirtz. Sell VdBeek.
New no.8: Bellingham, DeJong or Kokçu. Keep Eriksen.
RB upgrade: could be Frimpong. Keep AWB as defensive RB. Sell Dalot to Barça ( if they have ££).
Get strikers: Thuram/Sesko/Hojberg and or Osimhen/Muani.
Send Weghorst back and sell Martial.
A good backup to Casemiro: Lavia. Sell McT.
Backup to Bruno: Maddison or Wirtz. Sell VdBeek.
New no.8: Bellingham, DeJong or Kokçu. Keep Eriksen.
RB upgrade: could be Frimpong. Keep AWB as defensive RB. Sell Dalot to Barça ( if they have ££).
Get strikers: Thuram/Sesko/Hojberg and or Osimhen/Muani.
Send Weghorst back and sell Martial.
To be fair, we don't actually know Greenwood did said stupid thing, otherwise he would be preparing for trial as we speak.