Because it was nothing special + The goal was a screamer from outside the box not a teamplay goal.
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Because it was nothing special + The goal was a screamer from outside the box not a teamplay goal.
But you think it might get a mention considering how many people are berating his long passing?
You do realise we can’t actually buy anyone until the transfer window opens don’t you?
Had a poor game, got very little support. Looked tired. Needs a rest.
As someone already said if you do something one hundreds time you'll surely do it 1 or 2 times right while fecking up the rest. It's not something to prove he was right in hoofing almost every ball he gets at the back and the goal, as I said, was an individual effort not a teamplay anyway.
His hoofing from the back in general hurts our ball retention and invite unnecessary pressure on us.
It didn't today though, if anything it was our short passes out the back that invited the pressure... When we went long we generally bypassed their press and won a throw/corner
People complain about his hoofing from the back in general not just based on 1 game. We're not going to take 1 game out of 38 to think it's a good strategy to hoof from the back. It's illogical.
In general and in most games it hurts us and shows his inability to build proper attack from the back when the ball reaches him.
Disaterous performance but at he's age I can't blame him for looking fatigued etc it's the clubs fault not getting adequate and ready replacement.
Promising note, Dalot looked brilliant in the wing role and Lukaku was clinical overall
Promising note, Dalot looked brilliant in the wing role and Lukaku was clinical overall
I refuse to believe that Diogo Dalot would be less capable defensively than Ashley Young over the balance of the season. And I doubt anyone believes that Dalot would be less capable in attack than Young over the balance of the season. Nearly every Man Utd player has improved under the current manager and coaching staff. I am confident that Dalot would improve every game he plays at RB for the current manager and coaching staff. I don't have that same confidence with Young.
Young is getting a lot of stick here after today despite a great performance vs Liverpool and an important goal midweek.
The guy has featured A LOT this season and our RB always has to cover the ground vacated by our RW. I think the guy needs a rest!
The guy has featured A LOT this season and our RB always has to cover the ground vacated by our RW. I think the guy needs a rest!
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Is that a serious question?
Very cumbersome and limited on the ball.
Bit of a joke this thread.
We undoubtedly need a new RB, Dalot maybe but he is understandably being protected at his age in the new league.
However, Young has been tremendous for us all things considered, He's not a RB but regularly performs at a more than acceptable level there - shows very good defensive nous and is very good one on one, engine wise he's tireless, usually hounding up and down the line for the entire 90, most of all he shows more passion and mettle than probably anyone else in our squad.
Far from perfect and not elite by any means but the response in here is wildly off the mark, he was poor today, particularly with the non-pen pen, but has had a very solid season.
His 'Hoofing' the ball away is more often whipped balls down the line which with Rashford or Lukaku running in behind is a massive part of what has made us so much better under Ole, transitioning quickly and getting opponents running backwards - the reason Andreas ended up with an ocean of space to whop the ball into the top bag was entirely due to Young whipping it up to Rash(?) getting us in behind their midfield. As for low pass accuracy, those kinds of balls combined with crosses is always going to run that stat down, it doesn't mean they aren't worthwhile.
Prone to brain farts, sometimes reckless and lacking a little bit of final third quality, sure. A disgrace to the shirt and a complete liability, hardly.
Wise up - Ole hasn't been afraid to drop and make the tough decisions, he sees the worth... but Caf.
We undoubtedly need a new RB, Dalot maybe but he is understandably being protected at his age in the new league.
However, Young has been tremendous for us all things considered, He's not a RB but regularly performs at a more than acceptable level there - shows very good defensive nous and is very good one on one, engine wise he's tireless, usually hounding up and down the line for the entire 90, most of all he shows more passion and mettle than probably anyone else in our squad.
Far from perfect and not elite by any means but the response in here is wildly off the mark, he was poor today, particularly with the non-pen pen, but has had a very solid season.
His 'Hoofing' the ball away is more often whipped balls down the line which with Rashford or Lukaku running in behind is a massive part of what has made us so much better under Ole, transitioning quickly and getting opponents running backwards - the reason Andreas ended up with an ocean of space to whop the ball into the top bag was entirely due to Young whipping it up to Rash(?) getting us in behind their midfield. As for low pass accuracy, those kinds of balls combined with crosses is always going to run that stat down, it doesn't mean they aren't worthwhile.
Prone to brain farts, sometimes reckless and lacking a little bit of final third quality, sure. A disgrace to the shirt and a complete liability, hardly.
Wise up - Ole hasn't been afraid to drop and make the tough decisions, he sees the worth... but Caf.
spot on. i see a lot of posts equating him with valencia. hes much better going forward
Thankfully Darmian is fit again.....that says everything about Young 
He is terrible most of the time. Him fannying around in the box nearly costs us goals many times.
He will win the ball and then try something clever and give it away.
Yes he is not a full back and I still think Darmian is a better full back than Young.
He will win the ball and then try something clever and give it away.
Yes he is not a full back and I still think Darmian is a better full back than Young.
Young gives us more width and attacking threat than Darmian. Even though his end product has been absolute shit lately, at least he generally stretches the opposition which creates more space for others to do their thing. When Darmian or Valencia are there it allows the opposition to completely ignore that entire side of the field (maybe not in this match since we had Rashford and Lukaku taking turns there) and crowd the centre and left even more than they normally do, completely chokeing the life out of us.
I'm trying to stop criticising players who are overpromoted and Young is one of them.
He is a terrible right back, but its not his fault as he isnt a right back, and it doesnt matter how many times he has played there, he isnt very good at it, and hasnt gotten much better at it.
Ole's persistence with playing Young is quite frankly annoying tbh. I understand he works hard but that's pretty much it. He's defensive liability, his crossing went to shiit and he keeps giving away possession with those idiotic long balls along the touchline.
I’d sugggest you read your own post. I’ve no idea how clueless you may be...
An important goal in midweek, cancelling out the goal we conceded that he was at fault for in the first place.
If he didn't score his "important" goal, then he is at fault for us potentially losing or drawing that game.
Strange way to look at football, +1 for saving a goal, -1 for contributing to conceding a goal?
2 penalties ?
This especially get irritating when he has options to pass the ball in the middle to a midfielder or central defender whom could continue the build up through the middle or switch play.
Young always wants to punt the ball long which more often then not result in loss of possession.
This is why I never like it when the ball goes on the right, especially to Young. I instinctly know that possession about to be conceded. His hopeless hoofing does my head in.
City have Delph
He's far from an excellent right back but he's not even close to being as bad as some seem keen to suggest week in week out.
Puts it all on the line and leaves everything out there does Youngy and he's doing a decent enough job as a stop gap.
Puts it all on the line and leaves everything out there does Youngy and he's doing a decent enough job as a stop gap.
Or he realises the only other option is a 19 year old who can count his career top flight starts on his fingers and toes.
It's a good way to spot who knows what they're talking about, how highly they rate him.
When you coast your team 2-3 goals in as many games then you're pretty bad especially if the player in question is a defender.
From LW to LB to RB to RW, his contribution has been good enough for me to warrant a place in the squad next year. We need to sign a RB anyway since Darmian and Valencia are leaving this summer. Letting go of a 3rd fullback in the same summer doesn't make sense, it leaves us with too much transfer work to do and money to spend to cover one position. He can provide cover for Shaw and the new RB when needed along with Dalot, for another year. I'd be more than happy with that.
Not really, its how *everyone* looks at football.
They have pluses and minuses to every performance, in the case here, he was getting only positives for his goal and how important it was, without any mention at all of the fact that it was important, because he fecked up in the first place.
I made that exact point about Dalot in the first paragraph. Bailly played at RB for Villarreal and Jones has done for us previously, he also has a youth team to pull from and has done for other positions.
I don't think many, if any 'rate' him particularly highly in the grand scheme of things, certainly we'd all like to see Dalot given chances or a top class RB bought.
The difference is some can look at things reasonably and come to the conclusion he does a decent job for us all things considered.
Others need to over react to poor performances on Redcafe like stroppy kids
Yes, but yesterday he was a defensive liability. If he will be performing at such level, I would rather see Darmian there.
He's consistently one of our worst performers and our number one priority for replacement. There's nothing decent about it, and certainly nothing tremendous as you first said.
The thought of striking out on a RB signing this summer, and seeing this cheerleader trot out of the tunnel again next year, is downright unfortunate.
This. He has his use as a cover but he shouldn't start anymore on a regular basis and hopefully won't by next season.
Well, I disagree.
Also that's completely simplistic and disingenuous, I said he's been tremendous all things considered... as in he's not a RB and not a top level player but has been a very useful servant none the less, which is what the whole post is about. Not Ashley Young is a tremendous right back. You know that though.
You'd rather another right back over a RW or CM, even with Dalot in the wings? Mad, imo. I'd love to replace Young with a top class RB but it's comfortably not the most immediate need, particularly having just bought Dalot.
I think it really is. RB and RW are clearly our weakest positions and it would be ridiculous if we don't address it yet another transfer window.
I have a lot of faith in Dalot, I think RW is out and out the biggest issue and has been for a time, the complete lack of faith in Fred and the recent injuries I think has highlighted that CM lacks depth and Matic is on his last legs too.
Don't get me wrong, I'm taking a contrary view based more on people's over the top criticisms than the actual reality, fullbacks are such a difference maker in the modern game and I'd love us to sign AWB or someone else this summer.
The criticism of his longs balls - particular as it relates to yesterday's game - is completely bizarre. Half of then were accurate, and from the rest, the majority won us a throw-in/corner or simply moved us up the pitch and bypassed their press, which we were struggling to do when we played it out from the back.
That's absolute nonsense, if he's consistently anything its that he is a solid performer most matches. He has his moments but christ what is it with supporters these days? If a player makes a mistake in a game sell them is the instant reply. I had a so called supporter say Pogba is a complete disgrace yesterday.
Seen this on a forum I'm on elsewhere and Young was compared to the other top sides right full backs and he has the most interceptions and clearances of any other and the only area he fails in is fouls, which you could attribute to being caught out of position and having to make rash decisions?
That aside at age 33 he's out performing Walker at City, Trippier at Spurs, about the same as Azpiilucueta and only bettered by TAA at Liverpool.
The criticism from most of our fan base is completely unwarranted.
Stats are from Whoscored and from about 3 weeks ago roughly btw.
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