Most test matches only last 4 days now, run-rate's not important.
Ashes I - 2013 - In England
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No they're not, but Root has been dismissed at strike rate of around about 4-20 recently. That's what I mean a lot of balls for few runs. Facing 50 balls and scoring 2 runs.
They are? I've not seen this so I honestly am not sure. If they are then fair play. I'll add that they should be relishing it. It will make them better cricketers in the long run.
It's precisely my point. He's yet another player whos scored oodles of runs at FC level but has failed when put int the spotlight for the NT. Hence my opinion that 'go and make FC runs and get picked' isn't really working for CA. They need to be identifying who can make the step up. Putting them in and monitoring them and moving them forward. Not just dropping them and telling them to go back and make FC runs and be in consideration again.
It's what happened recently to Hughes and in all three series since being recalled against SL he's been largley poor and not really scored runs.
This cuts off before his last hundred.
But however if they 'knew' who to pick on a regular basis we wouldn't be getting smoked in every game all the time.
only just saw this. I was asleep from 0-10. Probably lucky i looked at my phone bleary eyed in the morning and uttered 'Pfft, pathetic.'Honestly didn't watch a single highlight or revisit anything else from that innings since..
All I know is that Warner got runs and should probably have been playing the entire time.... .Aussies need to stop chopping and changing and moving their batsmen up and down the order. Very reminiscent of 90's England selection policy.
It can't help the likes of Hughes being moved from 3 to 4 to 3 to 6 and Khawaja being dropped in and out of the side without getting a run going.
They're quite similar to Pakistan these days, relying on one consistent run scorer in the middle order to make up for others failing, while the selectors draw names out of a hat for the rest of the batting order.
It can't help the likes of Hughes being moved from 3 to 4 to 3 to 6 and Khawaja being dropped in and out of the side without getting a run going.
They're quite similar to Pakistan these days, relying on one consistent run scorer in the middle order to make up for others failing, while the selectors draw names out of a hat for the rest of the batting order.
Hughes Putdown no#29309.
His position in the order is the least of his worries.
Lol Smith 2 overs 2-8 in the tour match. Ballance set on 104 gets out LBW to him... Something isn't right there..
feck me Phil Hughes 30 off 90 including not being able to play the short ball in the tour match. How is this guy still there. Woeful.
Kwaj failed again. Real overhaul needed for the return trip.
Kwaj failed again. Real overhaul needed for the return trip.
ghaliboy,
http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/654391.html
This is what I was talking about, FYI..
http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/654391.html
This is what I was talking about, FYI..
Who is Woakes tugging off in this England set up?
Not good enough with the ball or bat at any international level.
Not good enough with the ball or bat at any international level.
He's our Steve Smith.
Except Smith is a better batsman, bowler and fielder.
And tells better jokes too, apparently.
Having a read now, usually I don't read all that many articles on cricinfo unless it's something I am interested in. Also, don't venture over here too much so if you want a discussion then quote me so I get an alert
.I am not sure, but I think he is echoing the same sentiments? Mostly producing flat ODI/T20 pitches that are complete roads? I know the SCG has gotten extremely quick in the last 10 years.
Is that what you meant? Because I meant that we are now bringing players up on roads so they get no variety. Which is what he's saying?
I think I may have been harsh to Woakes earlier, his first class averages make him look like a truly exciting test number 6. Just muck in his England career so far
They'd probably not do it but it would be interesting to drop Bairstow, have Prior 6, Woakes 7 and put Kerrigan in. Very well balanced attack.
I don't think they'd drop Bairstow, even if they said it was just rotation I don't think they'd be prepared for the stories that he has been dropped for poor form.
I think they might go with giving Prior a rest and playing Bairstow as the keeper with Woakes coming in and batting at 6 or 7 and one of Finn or Tremlett replacing Bresnan.
But more likely they'll make the enforced change of replacing Bresnan and that will be that.
I've seen a bit of him, as I used to be a member at Worcestershire and always tried to get to their games against Warwickshire. He'll never be a number six. He's a bowling all-rounder and can be unplayable, when conditions suit. His problem for England has been that they like to blood youngsters in one day games. He's not suited to one day cricket, at all, unless the pitch is one that seams around. His action is easy to pick up so he can get lined up, far too easily. Sadly, for him, Bresnan fulfills the role of 'dependable seamer who bats a bit' in the test side.
He's got a better first class average than Flintoff had when first called up and apparently averaged over 70 with the bat last season?
It's not beyond the realms of possibility, no one's made that 6 spot their own yet since Collingwood.
http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list/2013/8/19/cummins-suffers-another-set-back
Actually ugh.. Is this coming off as looking gloaty? Cause I genuinely feel for the lad. But his action is awful and the injuries honestly don't surprise me. Please just rest him for 5 years and let him develop CA. Put him on media duties or something and give him a job to earn a crust and rest his body.
That average is from just 10 innings, with 4 not outs. I don't see it, myself. Flintoff was a batsmen, growing up, who underperformed in first class cricket.
It's an interesting name to mention though. As no one would've thought Flintoff would've been the bowler he was, seeing him as a young player. It would be every bit as surprising, to me, if Woakes ended up a capable test six.
I personally think Prior is the answer at six but either he doesn't fancy it or the selectors are committed to 6 specialist batsmen and don't feel it's wise to put a keeper ahead of one of them. Which would be a bit silly, given Bairstow is a keeper.
Prior is such a counter attacking batsman though. Let him get in and he will get runs. But i feel he's very dismissable early.
Bairstow has been a bit of an odd selection. There are shades of Collingwood in his style but I reckon there is surely a better no6 there for England?
There probably are better no6's out there than Bairstow but he is currently still living off his performances against South Africa from last year.
I quite like the idea of Woakes getting a shot at no.7 at some point. He bats as high as 6 for Warwickshire and he is supposed to be much better with the red ball than the white. It would mean having to push Prior up to 6 which probably will never happen.
I quite like the idea of Woakes getting a shot at no.7 at some point. He bats as high as 6 for Warwickshire and he is supposed to be much better with the red ball than the white. It would mean having to push Prior up to 6 which probably will never happen.
Khawaja dropped and Shane Watson at 3
Ignoring the number 3, Aussies now have a 5 man attack and can bat all the way down to 10.
Also apart from the openers, not many left handers in the side either for Swann to take advantage of on a dry pitch.
Also apart from the openers, not many left handers in the side either for Swann to take advantage of on a dry pitch.
Yes, but they had a fragile batting line up to begin with and have just weakened it even more. It's a rubbish team. I assume Faulkner is playing because Watson can't bowl, which should have meant that he was dropped, not promoted up the order.
Khawaja has been largely useless in this tour, one 50 under no real pressure aside. I don't think replacing him with Watson is that bad.
I know it's the One day format but Faulkner actually looked half decent against England in the Champions Trophy if I remember rightly. Starc also provides a lot of depth at number 8 as well.
If the Aussies bat first, wouldn't surprise me if they put on 400+ with this line up.
I know it's the One day format but Faulkner actually looked half decent against England in the Champions Trophy if I remember rightly. Starc also provides a lot of depth at number 8 as well.
If the Aussies bat first, wouldn't surprise me if they put on 400+ with this line up.
Why Faulkner when Watson is bowling so well?
Watson had that injury in the last test and couldn't bowl in the tour game. Maybe the Aussies just fancy Faulkner a bit more as a bowler as well
Khawaja dropped and Shane Watson at 3
all I can summarize from that is 'dead rubber'. As long as no Hughes I am happy! I feel he's a bit 'meathead'y and a bit like Starc 'Yes overlord I will bowl here overlord. Go around the wicket? Ok overlord..'
He's an angry fecker as well and usually sprays it if he's wound up.
Don't think we deserve to win 4-0. 3-1 would adequately represent the series I think.
That's quite a fair assessment. Did I hear Bird has made way for Starc?
Lehmann bleating about Broad - Pussies not Aussies.
I'm not convinced that Lehmann opening his gob on the eve of a test match we already want to win to achieve our first 4-0 Ashes is the brightest move.
I love how Lehmann added '"I don't advocate walking" into his tirade, obviously because he wouldn't have walked, either, and he doesn't want to acknowledge the irony.
They aren't still going on about Broad are they?
Kerrigan and Woakes set to play, exciting.
That's quite a fair assessment. Did I hear Bird has made way for Starc?
Makes sense for me, England would much rather face Bird than Starc who has caused them trouble quite a bit this tour.
Anyway am I hearing rightly that England are going to play Kerrigan and Woakes!?
Not very Flower-like
Bairstow drops out for Woakes and Kerrigan, as well as the loss of Bresnan.
Guess it's Prior at 6, then.
Guess it's Prior at 6, then.
Just heard Lehmann's interview and the Aussies call us whinging poms!
Anyway the day looks great in London today so I think England could have a long day in the field
Anyway the day looks great in London today so I think England could have a long day in the field