Ashes I - 2013 - In England

I'm absolutely convinced there was a mark there.
there's always a mark in random parts of the bat even before the ball gets anywhere near the bat, with hot spot, no?

thought this was one of those things..

(and I thought the reason you couldnt see it first was because that face of the bat was not visible till the bat tilts in his hand after being rapped on the pads)
 
there's always a mark in random parts of the bat even before the ball gets anywhere near the bat, with hot spot, no?

thought this was one of those things..

(and I thought the reason you couldnt see it first was because that face of the bat was not visible till the bat tilts in his hand after being rapped on the pads)

okay, i'm completely wrong.. he's nicked it according to snicko which they've just shown.
 
there's always a mark in random parts of the bat even before the ball gets anywhere near the bat, with hot spot, no?

thought this was one of those things..

(and I thought the reason you couldnt see it first was because that face of the bat was not visible till the bat tilts in his hand after being rapped on the pads)


No, it wasn't there before and was afterwards. Tiny feather, but he hit that.
 
fecking hot spot is absolutely useless. well no chance of 400 now. If the weather holds up we have lost this match
 
I wish they'd do away with DRS. It's adding very little to the game and taking a lot away.
 
Once again a dreadful batting performance in the first innings, for a long time now our first innings batting has been woeful. But for a couple of decent scores in India last year its been a long, long time since England have produced good first innings scores with any sort of regularirty. Almost always its a case of relying on the bowlers to get England out of a hole, and if that doesn't work then digging in for a in the 2nd innings due to the complete failure in the first innings.

I still reckon we'll get a draw out of it but for far too long now the batsmen as a group have failed to perform.

In fact having just looked at the weather forecast it seems almost guaranteed to be a draw.
 
Why the feck is Broad using a signed bat?

Also I really can't understand why everyones ignoring the fact Pietersen wasn't out. Its really weird that Sky have glossed it over.
 
Once again a dreadful batting performance in the first innings, for a long time now our first innings batting has been woeful. But for a couple of decent scores in India last year its been a long, long time since England have produced good first innings scores with any sort of regularirty. Almost always its a case of relying on the bowlers to get England out of a hole, and if that doesn't work then digging in for a in the 2nd innings due to the complete failure in the first innings.

I still reckon we'll get a draw out of it but for far too long now the batsmen as a group have failed to perform.


A lot of guys aren't in nick at the moment. You could argue Pietersen and Bresnan weren't out, Root and Bell got good balls, Bairstow is looking like a weak link but apart from that I don't think this innings has been too bad. Just think we bat too slowly, got to rotate the strike more.
 
Frustrating watching the number of times the outside edge has been beaten.
 
It actually pains me listening to this England team talk.

KP: 'We tried to bat all day and take overs out of their bowlers'

It's so negative, you should have tried to bat all day because you wanted to make 650 and get back in control of this test.
 
Team made in the captain's image. Dour and unimaginative.
 
It actually pains me listening to this England team talk.

KP: 'We tried to bat all day and take overs out of their bowlers'

It's so negative, you should have tried to bat all day because you wanted to make 650 and get back in control of this test.


I'd complain but they get the job done, they were looking for a draw from yesterday and to be fair to them with pitch and weather as it is it looks likely. I understand the frustration but they aren't doing or saying anything different, this is how the England team functions.
 
A lot of guys are out of nick too, easier to bat out time than rack up 600.
 
England did all right I thought. Perhaps they could have scored a shade quicker seeing as they though they have batted time they are still some way behind in the game. Bat till lunch tomorrow and it'll be a draw imo
 
fecking hot spot is absolutely useless. well no chance of 400 now. If the weather holds up we have lost this match

:lol: it was a stupid claim.

Well done to starc, he bowled some absolute fruit today but got a few good wickets. Seems to be the flavour onthe bowling a the moment. Baskets of fruit with the occasional wicket.
 
:lol: it was a stupid claim.

Well done to starc, he bowled some absolute fruit today but got a few good wickets. Seems to be the flavour onthe bowling a the moment. Baskets of fruit with the occasional wicket.


I assumed KP would go on to make 150+, in which case 400 would have been pretty easy, but it wasn't to be.
 
I assumed KP would go on to make 150+, in which case 400 would have been pretty easy, but it wasn't to be.
Yeah, that was a stupid claim as well.

It was one of the scratchiest and ugliest hundreds I've ever seen from him. There were more inside edges than an Egyptian pyramid and he played and missed about a billion times. The little period after he tonned up was crucial. He looked to try and take the edge off the Aussies and stay at the crease but he only manage to get bogged down and eventually get out.

Just saw the wicket and it was completely not out. I do wonder if they take the players reaction into account or something? I don't understand why he stood there and considered asking for a review. I said to my old man 'feck everyone else, I couldn't care less about someone telling me to review. If I am convinced and I think its not out then I am going to review. Call me selfish call me whatever'. In this case Pieterson stood there and had a think about it, looked up and spoke to Prior and didn't look convinced that he himself hit it. Which is bizarre. (They certainly shouldn't take it into account)

There is clearly a mark on the hot spot. Snicko I am unconvinced of at all. There are plenty of ways a noise can be a noise, even the KP snicko registered a bunch of random shit and especially with the Khawaja dismissal where halfway through the frames between hitting the pad and with the ball a couple of the frames past the bat there was a clear nick sounding noise with nothing around at all.

What are the fecking third umpires doing? I mean sling plenty of shit at how the tech is being implemented and used but it is showing to be clearly right in some occasions and then being ignored. There is a problem with the umpires imo.

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Get rid of the techno shit and just get on with umpires' calls. It's fecking up the spectator experience.
 
This is when you tell us that you can't feel feathers like that when an Australian stands his ground and wastes a review isn't it ghaliboy?
 
This is when you tell us that you can't feel feathers like that when an Australian stands his ground and wastes a review isn't it ghaliboy?

What? Um.. I guess..?

Awwww, is it not going to plan?

On a more serious note, what does Clarke do now? If he has us all out with a lead of 150, try and score a fast 200 for a 350 lead and hope that our batsmen don't fire?

I dunno, ask Clarke. He's the captain. 300 on the last day trying to bat time.. Never know. Take away Pieterson's score and it's a much better outcome for Australia.
 
I dunno, ask Clarke. He's the captain. 300 on the last day trying to bat time.. Never know. Take away Pieterson's score and it's a much better outcome for Australia.

I could just as easily say take away Clarke's score and you'd be utterly fecked, that sort of logic does you no good at all.
 
The way ghaliboy has gone on in this thread is as if he expected to bowl us for 150 or something :wenger: your in by far the best position to win the game.
 
It really depresses me listening to the difference between Shane Warne's aggressiveness and the passive defensive nature of all the former England captains.

It really sums up the difference between England and Australian cricket culture when Warne is always talking about the win and England are always talking about not losing.