Ashes I - 2013 - In England

Thing is though, 2800rpm sounds a lot, but if the ball takes 1 second to travel, that's only about 45 revs.
 
The funny thing is, I noticed on Sky's jazzy new rev-counter that Agar was getting it spinning way faster... he was up around 2,800 rpm (I actually never realised they got anything like that many revs before they brought this new tech in!). Just shows that there's a lot more to it than just how fast you can make it spin!


Revs means feck all to be honest. Only lefties will ahve problems here. Swann seems to be getting that random nude ball to go straight which the commentators call the 'arm ball'.

Smith could have used these conditions well but he can't land anything accurately enough.
 
Revs means feck all to be honest. Only lefties will ahve problems here. Swann seems to be getting that random nude ball to go straight which the commentators call the 'arm ball'.

Smith could have used these conditions well but he can't land anything accurately enough.

eh? Of course they do mean a lot. The more you put on the ball, the more you get out of the pitch. Another reason Swann is excellent is that he gets natural drift
 
Then why did swan clearly just bowl a 2k plus completely nude ball? Which the commentators lauded for 'slipping in the arm ball'. It was the same fecking ball that didn't spin because it wasn't really in the grippy part of the rough.

All spinners are going to put revs on the ball regardless between 1700-3000 it's not really going to make much of a difference to the naked eye plus telling is about it means feck all imo.
 
Revs means feck all to be honest. Only lefties will ahve problems here. Swann seems to be getting that random nude ball to go straight which the commentators call the 'arm ball'.

Smith could have used these conditions well but he can't land anything accurately enough.

They can't be measuring the revs out of the hand either. At Trent Bridge there were consistently lower revs being shown now this pitch is spinning and turning suddenly all spinners are putting more revs on the ball, bollocks.
 
Clarke strikes me as a captain who has a bit of 'feck it. Lets just get the feck out of here asap' in him.
 
Murali was a wrist spinner, not a finger spinner


Swanny has a pretty fast action for a finger spinner. Its more of a flick action than an arm arcing drive. I still think he's a massively overrated spinner, but then again I am Australian :lol:.
 
Swanny has a pretty fast action for a finger spinner. Its more of a flick action than an arm arcing drive. I still think he's a massively overrated spinner, but then again I am Australian :lol:.

You're probably biased. Swann's the best spinner in the world atm

I like him. No nonsense off spin, not fecking around with shitty variations
 
Imo, like demonstrated here he just bowls nude balls when there is nothing on offer. I supposed there are plenty of spinners who do that and I've been blessed to have seen quality spinners like Benaud and Warne and look up to them. But I reckon he's a massive wicket donation service when not on a minefield.
 
Clarke needs a score. to at least help him assert his authority on this shambolic team.
 
The funny thing is, I noticed on Sky's jazzy new rev-counter that Agar was getting it spinning way faster... he was up around 2,800 rpm (I actually never realised they got anything like that many revs before they brought this new tech in, tbf). Just shows that there's a lot more to it than just how fast you can make it spin!


No he wasn't. He was regularly below 2000 while Swann averages around 2300.
 
Apparently at Loughborough Swann spins it much more than any other finger spinner they've ever had round there, given the technology is quite new.
 
Swanny has a pretty fast action for a finger spinner. Its more of a flick action than an arm arcing drive. I still think he's a massively overrated spinner, but then again I am Australian :lol:.

quaility of spinners right now well below previous generations. That being said, Swann is quite exceptional amongst a mediocre peer group.
 
This must be the worst Aus team of the past 15+ years. It's fecking glorious.
 
quaility of spinners right now well below previous generations. That being said, Swann is quite exceptional amongst a mediocre peer group.


Lol or he's just maybe a bit better. But oyur right I can't even name a good spinner these days. RAOS and LAOS is just a 'can bowl a bit' art and leg spin seems to have nearly died as well.
 
Lol or he's just maybe a bit better. But oyur right I can't even name a good spinner these days. RAOS and LAOS is just a 'can bowl a bit' art and leg spin seems to have nearly died as well.


Ajmal and Swann would be good in any generation, Shillingford is quite useful as well as is Herath. Not the quality of Murali and Warne but still good cricketers.
 
Course you would, Pete. No way you'd bug the shit out of them and then be texting your mates on red cafe telling everybody about who you'd just been chatting to in the pub!:smirk:
I'm completely unstarstruck except when I got a chance to talk to Charlie George, who was surprised to hear I remembered his spawny goal v Newcastle that might have won us the league (he hadn't forgotten either).
 
Ajmal and Swann would be good in any generation, Shillingford is quite useful as well as is Herath. Not the quality of Murali and Warne but still good cricketers.

Lets be honest, the guy is a blatant chucker
 
Re DRS: Its quite amusing to watch a fielding team go nuts with an appeal and then choose not to review it. If they don't review it, why appeal so vociferously?

I get that appealing is instinctive and uncontrollable but when a fielding team screams HOWZZAT as though life depended on it and then calmly walk back to fielding start position as though nothing of note happened, surely thats not right?
 
The funny thing is, I noticed on Sky's jazzy new rev-counter that Agar was getting it spinning way faster... he was up around 2,800 rpm (I actually never realised they got anything like that many revs before they brought this new tech in, tbf). Just shows that there's a lot more to it than just how fast you can make it spin!

Agar was consistently at around 2000rpm. Perhaps your thinking of Smith who at least made it into the red on the counter more than once every few overs.
 
I'm completely unstarstruck except when I got a chance to talk to Charlie George, who was surprised to hear I remembered his spawny goal v Newcastle that might have won us the league (he hadn't forgotten either).

See, there we go. You've clearly been dying for some human interaction for years, so that you can pass on the fact that you met some no-mark ex-gooner once. I bet he fobbed you off with a story about having to be somewhere after about 30 seconds too.
 
England need 5 wickets with 2 news batsmen at crease.

with extra 30 mins available, not sure Austalia will last the day.