Oh, this really isnt the week to take the piss out of Arsenal. Hopefully we can do it Sunday night.
Arsenal Mania: Brace Yourselves
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They beat us at the weekend, they'll be back to "better than Barca" again. Arsenal's bi-polar fans really get to me at times. I would imagine they piss off genuine longtime Gooners as well.
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Die hard and confident Gooner mate just told me he's shitting about Sunday, thinks we'll batter them.
It is hilarious Arsenal just decided to stand pat after signing Cech. They really thought that was all they needed.
Wenger is an idiot and fraud of a manager living off past glories. If he doesnt go this season Arsenal really will have lost it.
I watched their game tonight. They lost their goals to really, really stupid mistakes. They seem a bit soft mentally, because they fall to pieces right when they should be at their strongest and most alert. Conceding at the times they did was just ridiculous, especially the third goal. Having said that, the goals they let in aren't the sort I'd expect us to score against them. They got done on the break, a bit like us vs PSV only they were utterly shambolic whereas we were incredibly unlucky for the most part. I thought Olympiacos played like a better version of Leicester, more organised, more determined, more disciplined. We'll be playing possession football, dominating the ball, looking for that incisive pass to break them down. They'll be playing on the counter.
I always expect us to beat Arsenal but I can't see us battering them. 1-0 or 2-1 is the sort of scoreline I'd expect, maybe even a draw. If it was at home then I think we'd turn them over.
Aside from the coefficient thing which affects us all, is Arsenal going out in the group stage really that big a deal?
They only ever go one Round further anyway. When was the last time Arsenal did anything in Europe? Anything remotely memorable? And I mean memorable in a positive way for them? They scrape through easy groups in 2nd place and then go out in the 2nd round. Usually after an heroic failure in the 2nd leg.
You can say oh well going out this early will lose them money, but would Wenger even spend that extra money anyway?
They're just in a holding pattern with Wenger. Theyre never going to win the title again with him, and even when he was good 10-15 years ago he was always rubbish in Europe so they've got no chance of winning the CL now.
They only ever go one Round further anyway. When was the last time Arsenal did anything in Europe? Anything remotely memorable? And I mean memorable in a positive way for them? They scrape through easy groups in 2nd place and then go out in the 2nd round. Usually after an heroic failure in the 2nd leg.
You can say oh well going out this early will lose them money, but would Wenger even spend that extra money anyway?
They're just in a holding pattern with Wenger. Theyre never going to win the title again with him, and even when he was good 10-15 years ago he was always rubbish in Europe so they've got no chance of winning the CL now.
At this point, Wenger's like that Football Manager player who has just one tactic and just goes through the motion of clicking the continue button every time it appears.
So did loads of others. Never understood it one bit the hype around them being able to win big trophies this year.
Angry Claude is like True Geordie but before he sold out. The first thing I do when Arsenal lose (especially like against Chelsea the other week when they were fecked by the refs, the more contentious the better) is look for Claude's latest mental breakdown and it makes me happy. Is there a Liverpool equivalent of this? A real life Jimmy Liddel? Obviously that's their entire fanbase but any that go on TV and cry?
Sure, that part's fine but it wasn't what I was getting at. They definitely should have invested more in their squad and have the resources for it. But the way the posters on that particular forum have been going on about how much better their team is than United's, basically laughing at us after only having won a couple of domestic cups the past decade.. now that's the silly bit.
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pardon my ignorance but when exactly did he sell out? I mean he has gathered a following but I don't see how he sold out
Can't even tell if they were arrogant or just plain stupid, couple more seasons of this and Sanchez will do an RvP.
His earlier videos were just rants, his latest stuff shows an awareness of his audience. He's actively performing now as opposed to just ranting. He's playing to the gallery.
Can hardly blame pissed off Arsenal fans. Wenger's rebuilding project has been going on for about a decade now. Managing to finish in only two positions for 10 consecutive seasons is some achievement, actually.
The problem is that it's obviously hard for them to sack him: Arsenal never have disastrous seasons, and will always finish above 65 points, and usually above 70. They'll probably do it again this season, since they seem unlikely to drop out of the top 4.
But really, I'm not sure what Wenger can do there unless he can suddenly deliver some form of success. His stability is probably handy for the club, but surely now that Klopp's available, they should consider the possibility of switching it up.
Theo Walcott's time at Arsenal is almost like a metaphor for Arsenal themselves. Occasionally but very rarely sublime, sometimes very good, often inconsistent, and with long spells of being immensely average despite a capability to be exciting and the hype which once surrounded him about a decade ago.
The problem is that it's obviously hard for them to sack him: Arsenal never have disastrous seasons, and will always finish above 65 points, and usually above 70. They'll probably do it again this season, since they seem unlikely to drop out of the top 4.
But really, I'm not sure what Wenger can do there unless he can suddenly deliver some form of success. His stability is probably handy for the club, but surely now that Klopp's available, they should consider the possibility of switching it up.
Theo Walcott's time at Arsenal is almost like a metaphor for Arsenal themselves. Occasionally but very rarely sublime, sometimes very good, often inconsistent, and with long spells of being immensely average despite a capability to be exciting and the hype which once surrounded him about a decade ago.
Angry Claude is actually painful to watch these days.
Wenger is given time and security and probably a huge paycheque to operate Arsenal without spending.
I honestly believe this is the case. How else can you explain him still being in a job?
I bet the owners and shareholders all love him. He gets then champions League footy with only the occasional big spend and the building is always full.
I honestly believe this is the case. How else can you explain him still being in a job?
I bet the owners and shareholders all love him. He gets then champions League footy with only the occasional big spend and the building is always full.
Could be a massive year in the Prem in terms of management turnover, with the likes of Brentan, Wenger, and Mourinho moving on.
It's about time someone put Arsenal fans and Wenger out of their misery.
I think Rodgers will be the only one of the three to move on, with Klopp taking his place.
He's still in a job because nobody is going to go there and do better.
Klopp and Ancelotti are available now, they might be able to inject fresh ideas and bring the team forward.
Klopp was a disaster last season and Ancelotti hasn't had much success when he's not been managing the richest team in the league. Sacking Wenger isn't going to suddenly see Arsenal improve much. It's more likely to destabilise them than push them to glory.
Arsenal are a mildly better version of the flawed team of a few years ago. They have improved but too many ex-Arsenal players or London journos thought that this slim improvement was going to lead to a title challenge. You only have to see the reactions to the Welbeck signing to see how quick some are to get excited about Arsenal. They are poor defensively, have an average striker and have a ten year streak of folding under pressure. They have improved slightly in all areas (e.g. buying Cech, FA Cup wins) but not enough to convince me that last season was the end of their tradition of going through a cycle similar to the Rawk boom-bust cycle.
We might see a few Wenger out banners this season, then they'll play great and the hype will start up again and next season will be "make or break".
We might see a few Wenger out banners this season, then they'll play great and the hype will start up again and next season will be "make or break".
Holding onto him isn't going to win them silverware either. It is about time they hired a younger manager who can usher in a new era at the club.
They have a forum? I always just assumed they were only on twitter. It never crossed my mind that they post on a forum.
They're hardly out of the title race, to be fair.
I feel for the Arsenal fans. The whole season so far right from their transfers and game tactics has been shoddy and most of that blame goes to Wenger. I have a nephew who is an Arsenal fans and he agrees when he says that none of the fans know what he is trying to prove every season when it comes to not buying proven players and sticking with youth when he knows on a larger scale it fails to land them a major trophy and end up turning a top 3-4 club.
Censors? You working for the moral police? Its their channel and they can swear if they want to.
Btw have you been to any matches at OT?
'Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know' school of thought aka ostrich in sand mindset. Change is a part of life.
Why? They're (on the internet) self-entitled bell-ends.
Compared to the fans of Pool, City and Chelsea, fans of Arsenal are much better to be around
Thank feck I'm not an Arsenal supporter - the frustration they must be dealing with every single week must be brutal.
Tbh i don't see any youths in Arsenal's first team lineup. Bellerin is the only one who starts every game and he's doing very well. We have a younger squad than Arsenal. Chelsea's squad is also younger. The problem is deeper than that. They've also invested in proven players like Sanchez, Ozil and Cech.
Every week for the best part of a decade, I applaud their loyalty.
Like Moh said on AFTV - "In life, you get what you pay for. Unless you're Arsenal fan.".
The problem is and always has been Wenger's naivety. He believes there is no need to buy players because existing ones are good. For instance, Wenger wouldn't have bought a midfielder had he been in LvG's place this summer because Michael Carrick is there. He could have easily bought one of kondogbia schneiderlin or sime for arsenal.
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