Seriously? Your post was based on 3 false premises, yet we should ignore that and take what you say at face value? Mmk.
Are the Glazers preparing for a sale? | Saudis deny the news
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It's one thing being against a brutal regime and tolerating them owning your club (which may or may not come to light).
But it's another thing to say anyone who uses oil can't then say a word against them!
Not all our oil comes from Saudi for one thing!
It's ok to be intolerant towards the intolerants. It's paradoxical obviously, but otherwise, the whole society will succumb to intolerance.
Would love it if the Saudis buy us out. 780 billion in reserves.
Doubt there is much to the story though. Seems like it would cost more than the 3.8 billion figure to tempt the Glazers as well.
Doubt there is much to the story though. Seems like it would cost more than the 3.8 billion figure to tempt the Glazers as well.
Always an interesting idea.
But is it true? Does someone like Branson count, has he committed "crimes"?
I suppose it depends on whether paying people minimum wage is a crime, or actually an opportunity they wouldn't have had otherwise.
The inmates have taken over the asylum....
A lot of companies like Amazon and Starbucks not paying their share of taxes. High street in western europe is suffering i read.
Taxes is another interesting idea.
How Joe Sixpack, who might contribute say £8k a year in taxes, gets really angry that someone who is paying millions isn't paying even more.
I am a consumer and a hypocrite and irrational. I am a human being. That's part and parcel of existence and I'm not scared to explore my faults or flaws. I try my best to reduce the extent to which I make the world a worse place. So I genuinely have no idea what you're arguing at this point. You've been wrong about me on all counts, and I find your wriggling both wummish and amusing.
You may be in luck. Maybe the Saudis will buy your club instead and propel it back to relevance.
I'm amazed too. I had him on ignore before this thread because I pegged him for a wum. He will be going straight back on the ignore list!
I've seen that article before and the author is intellectually dishonest (ie. he's pushing a narrative like most good journalists).
This make it seems as if the Glazers put up none of their own money. By all accounts, they did (from what I've read the high-interest loans were borrowed against their own assets but I could be wrong). Look at the very next paragraph:
Hmm, the author is railing about debt that he deems manageable, but according to him it has nothing to do with Manchester United's commercial activities and all to do with SAF greatness. No way it could be both?
Lastly, the author addresses how much the Glazers have personally benefited (dividend payments). Which is not crazy given they put up some of their own money.
So the author is basically telling us the Glazers were paid dividends (a fraction of the original loan amount) after 10 years of owning a club, who the author admits (and by all accounts), is in good financial position. Hmm...
This is nothing but a click-bait hit piece that is constantly used as evidence of the Glazers destroying the club. People need to open their eyes.
Hi pot.
Well this was what was denied before. Welcome to the club of hypocrites. - The Chairman
Reading that the price is dependent on whether we reach the CL, so probably wont hear anything until top four is claimed or missed.
TBH i dont think there is much to the rumors.
TBH i dont think there is much to the rumors.
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Saudi Media minister
All the news of Prince Muhammed bin Selman willing to buy man utd is false. The meetings was between the Saudi investment fund and Man utd football club to discuss a partnership project and the investment fund committee discussed it as a project like any other project and they did not come to an agreement.
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Saudi Media minister
All the news of Prince Muhammed bin Selman willing to buy man utd is false. The meetings was between the Saudi investment fund and Man utd football club to discuss a partnership project and the investment fund committee discussed it as a project like any other project and they did not come to an agreement.
Actually this sounds like it is true.
You're suggesting the wealthy should be entitled to pay what they choose in the manner of a charitable donation but Joe Sixpack and those like him should be obliged to pay the set amount? Yeah, I can see why you and Joe aren't getting along.
even if it was true, announcing that there is nothing means the deal fell apart if there was any.Actually this sounds like it is true.
When was the last time United looked Bale's way?
What are you saying, even if it's true, it ain't true? Anyway they just admitted they are into United, by stating the boilerplate there is no deal yet (like in no agreement over price yet?).
It would be a massive struggle, as I said.
What are you saying, even if it's true, it ain't true? At the very least, they just admitted they are into United (and the trash newspaper got at least something right). It could be a statement the buying party would issue if they are not happy about the price yet. It's a bit of a suspect statement.
Im saying even if the news about MBS buying utd was true, the saudi minister with his last tweet cut the rumors and if there was a deal to sell the club, it fell apart.
So the Saudi Minister of Truth admits they were into some deal but denies business was successful (yet). How to read that...
True.
you are right, it could be about buying the club, although he denied it and said it is a partnership deal.
He denied any desire from Bin Salman family to take control of the club. That's what matters in his words I guess.
How would Bin Salman even pass the fit and proper person test after the whole Khagsoogi assassination?
Good the desire some utd fans have to sell the clubs soul to a regime with such a terrible human rights record staggers me
There are things more important than buying success . I would rather city win every cup for a 100 years than follow then down the same path
You cynical muppets who go around crying “Well everyone is bad, so we shouldn’t care about what x people do because w,y,z also do things” are so damn annoying.
You’re just as bad as the conspiracy theorists and anti-vaccine idiots.
You’re just as bad as the conspiracy theorists and anti-vaccine idiots.
All this from an unsubstantiated story in the Sun.....
However, I am despairing at the moral compass of some 'fans' who don't care who the owners are, as long as they have buckets of cash.
However, I am despairing at the moral compass of some 'fans' who don't care who the owners are, as long as they have buckets of cash.
Define giving up.
I already laid out in a previous post why essential activities having nothing to do with ‘luxuries’ can be construed as supporting them, which you ignored. So what sort of lifestyle would you expect from someone before that person can criticise the Saudis without being a hypocrite? Or a Venezuelan who uses their own country oil is fair game, but any other person who fills up a tank without knowing the source of that can’t? Don’t you see how arbitrary and ridiculous that is?
If you listen to some of the prevailing views in this thread, the only time you can have a problem is if you live in a dirt hut built from dirt you harvested for yourself. No electricity or electronic devices. You have to sew your own clothes from cotton you grow for yourself. Grow your own food and cook it only with fire started from twigs and rocks. You can only cook the food by sticking it on twigs and holding it over the fire of course, and eat it in your bare hands, because somewhere along the line pots, pans and cutlery would have used oil or natural gas in their manufacturing.
Then, and only then, can you actually have a problem with the Saudis taking over United.
Edit: I forgot to mention that all of this has to take place in some undiscovered island somewhere that has no government, because by default if you exist in a country that means that you support everything every government of that country has ever done.
This.
Wot? Doesn't being a Manchester United fan mean we want the best for our club, we want our club to succeed? The thing some posters say about they'd rather have United fall into obscurity or City to win and put us in their shadows just because they dislike the Saudi reign really staggers me.
So rather than "glory hunter" as they accuse others of, they'd prefer to play "moral hunter"?
1 billion pound?
Stop being a red?
Where do you get those figures? Owes 750 paid 300 took out 1 billion?
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